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all i know is the current Springfield company is worthy of the name. I have 3 +1980 Springfields. a XD45, a 1911 TRP, and M1A. I like the limited lifetime warranty. I will buy springfield some more. |
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A better tag line would be, "Springfield Armory - living up to a name that's been around since 1794". But that might not fit on the box.
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I'll play tonight.
Kimber TLE II, Wilson 47Delta, Federal Hydrashok 230g, timepiece by Microtec, fine cutlery by Emerson.
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L.A. County Mailed to LASD Hall of Justice: 6/27/2022 received:6/28 Check cashed: 8/22/2022 Livescan: 4/22/2023 DOJ 4/22 FBI 4/23 Firearms 4/26 Call for interview: 5/24/2023 Interview: 5/31/2023 PTT: 8/21/23 Training submitted 8/27/23 Call for pickup 10/12/23 Pickup: 11/8/23 Last edited by rorschach; 01-15-2007 at 10:43 PM.. |
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Thats out off the 10 right? about 6 miles past Morongo? Me and some buddies got kicked out of there by the BLM back in August said it was illegal to shoot there. Oh ok, so here is my 1911: |
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The SA that was opened in 1795 was owned operated by the US govt. to build, supply, design and evaluate small arms for the govt. It was in no way shape or form a commercial entitiy. The SA "INC" that is currently around was started in 1974 by Robert Reese, who bought the rights to the name and started their own commercial enterprise which is not connected to the govt at all. It is NOT the same and is simply using the history of the original govt armory as a successful marketing ploy. And in my eyes they are not worthy of it as they are primarily an importer these days. I apologize for throwing this off topic. |
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Here's a few of mine...
Kimber Custom Target II – Busse Combat EU-17 Mr. Mojo
Kimber Custom CDP II – Busse Combat Heavy Heart SigArms GSR - Busse Combat HellRazor
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where'd you say yo crib was?
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Here are a few of mine:
TLE/II RL with CT+X200A SA Loaded 9 mm SA Mil-Spec with ghost ring + Tricijion night site
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So is Ford the same company they were 120 years ago? And I don't apologize for throwing this off topic. |
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Could you explain your version of Springfield Armory Inc's history for us?
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so get over it. you say springfield is not the same springfield or 1794 I say it is... pick your pie. |
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The REAL Springfield Armory wouldn't have let a gun leave the factory looking like that.
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no company is the same, especially a 300 yr old company. sometimes all a company has is the name. and they do whatever it takes to keep it going. even if it means filiing chapter 11 year in and year out. ford may not have someone buy the name off them like springfield, but i guarantee you they are not the same ford they were 120 years ago. the current springfield says since 1794, so guess what they own the name so they can say since 1974. maybe 2006 springfield did not arrive the exact same way ford did and does not meet your ideas of what is springfield and what is not, but guess what.. They own the name and they get to use it. I myself dont' think Ford deserve to use the name Ford as Henry Ford was a great innovantor, but the world does not work on how I think.. just like it does not work on how you think. so get over it. you say springfield is not the same springfield or 1794 I say it is... pick your pie. |
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What you are saying is akin to saying that if the govt shuts down SOCOM, I buy the rights to the name and start my own company that this new compnay is the same entity. And FoMoCo is the same company more or less. And if they are sold to others the tooling, resources, knowledge and such can be sold along with it. Stock holders own portions and share profits. Harley Davidson is just a name that has been sold multiple times. And is more or less the same company, but when they started they were a company. |
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Big Friggin deal, so it was not a company in 1794, but it eventually became a company and eventually became "not a company" with only a name left. That name was bought and the tradition kept on going, just like Harley kept the name going. The Roman Empire trace it's roots to 510 BC, when in fact it was not even an Empire in 510 BC. You can argue that all you want to. Pick your pie. Let us know how you think the world should work and the world will still work the way it is regardless of what you think. Pick your pie. Dam I am happy to be in California. When you show a half picture of your gun everyone here thinks it is a gripless build, but in the rest of the country they actually think you only posted half a pic. Not to mention the pic right above it shows the full pic but opposite side =) I love this state. |
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Why do you think that it was a company from 1794 to 1968?
Do you call larwence Livermore a company, how abut Fort Bragg, or the DOJ, maybe NASA? Like i said before, a successful marketing ploy. Last edited by Josh; 01-18-2007 at 10:59 PM.. |
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Since 1794. It works for me. I see it don't work for you. Pick your pie. |
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Dude, Springfield Armory of today is in no relation to the federal arsenal of the same name. It is a private company with no relationship whatsoever to the US Government. The are not even close to each other on a map.
Springfield Armory was not a company for nearly 200 years, it was a government facility, and now a museum. A place. Some guy bought the NAME (not facilities, blueprints, machinery, inventory, records etc etc) to market his own brand of firearms (not US government weapons). It's like me starting a company named "Marine Corps Widgets, LLC, since 1775",with no relationship to the USMC whatsover. Government agencies are not companies. C'mon read up a little before spewing this nonsense
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The original Springfield Armory actually developed and built rifles. Did you know the M1903 and Garand were developed and produced at Springfield Armory? If it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck..... This sounds like a company to me. In the late 60's Springfield closed it's doors in Springfield Mass only to reopen ~5 years later in Illinois. Some dude bought the name and began producing M14 rifles. This dude had a right to use that name hence the reason you see "Springfield since 1794" I guess it is ok for other companies to file chapter 11, restructure, and sometimes close it's door with just a NAME only to reopen years later. I am sure Tobasco Sauce and the Colonels chicken is not the same either. But I guess it is not ok for Springfield to do this. I guess your problem is you want the label to say "Springfield since 1974" instead of "Springfield since 1794"... well you always can write to the Gov't to complain hahahaha. Springfield Armory Inc, has the right to use the NAME. Marketing gimmick? Maybe, but what of anything on this earth is not a marketing gimmick? You can try to buy the NAME Marine Corp LLC, and set up your own company, I just want to say good luck with that. I don't think the Gov't will let you use the motto "Marine Corp since 1775" for your company... but anyways good luck with that. Why do you want to use that name anyways? You trying to raise a private mercenary naval infantry battalion? |
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