9mm Training ammo.

[stormvet]

Just bought complete 9mm training ammo for the first time in almost a decade.

I reload all my training ammo and have for a very long time, so far this year I?ve reloaded close to 10,000 rounds of 9mm and am in the process of priming 2000 more. My go to loads are W231 and RMR 124g in mixed cases, works like a charm, it cost me roughly $200-210 per thousand rounds with the cost of components today.

I just ordered 1000 115g remanufactured 9mm ammo from 2a warehouse for $228. Gonna give it a shot, see how it performs. I?ve bought their 556 before and it?s worked well, we will see.

[smoothy8500]

Yeah $199 plus shipping is pretty good.

[stormvet]

Originally Posted by smoothy8500

Yeah $199 plus shipping is pretty good.

I thought so, shipping was $15, the rest tax. They clam 1200 ft per sec, so plenty hot. Think I?ll try it in an all steel gun first probably my SP-01, before I run it in my polymers. If there are no issues with the first batch I?ll use it to supplement my reloads, save me a little time.

[SunnySky]

I am new to shooting and have never reloaded or used remanufactured ammo.

Just curious, is it worth to reload or purchase remanufactured ammo for $15 less?

[stormvet]

All depends on how that remanufactured ammo works, in my case it’s costing me about $20 more to buy it then to make it myself. But I’m saving a lot of time in not having to make it, that is certainly worth $20.

I much prefer 124g ammo in 9mm, but that is more expensive than 115 so that’s a trade off. I know my reloaded ammo is great, the remanufactured is an unknown. May be great may not, time will tell. I shoot a lot and will continue to reload my own. But being able to keep my stock pile high without spending too much time in the garage is tempting. I will not spend anymore on ready made ammo then what these cost so if this remanufactured ammo s a no go, I’ll stick to just rolling all my own ammo.

[smoothy8500]

Originally Posted by stormvet

All depends on how that remanufactured ammo works, in my case it?s costing me about $20 more to buy it then to make it myself. But I?m saving a lot of time in not having to make it, that is certainly worth $20.

I agree with you sentiments. Until ammo prices are less than component prices I'll reload. Finally it seems 9mm is reaching that point.

[Cowboy T]

Depends on whether you cast your own bullets. If you do, then the cost savings is more extensive. If you don't, then it'll be closer to factory-bought.

I would still reload for two reasons.

1.) Ammo availability. No need to go through that ridiculous nonsense of begging the California State Govermnent, "mommy, may I?" just to get practice ammo. Soon, they might try to make it to where you effectively cannot buy ammo at all unless you're an LEO.

2.) I can pump out 350 rounds of *boxed* ammo in an hour with that new Lee Pro 6000 (six-station) press. For 9mm, it might be even a little faster.

[TFA777]

Originally Posted by SunnySky

I am new to shooting and have never reloaded or used remanufactured ammo.



Just curious, is it worth to reload or purchase remanufactured ammo for $15 less?

If you go with polymer coated bullets at about 7c, primers are 6c, cases are free, powder is 1.2c, you can reload for 14c

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[IVC]

Originally Posted by Cowboy T

I would still reload for two reasons.

I would add a third reason.

When you reload, you control the components that go into the rounds and you can get the load that works really well for both you and your gun. You control the energy, the impulse, the accuracy, the terminal performance and everything in between.

[stormvet]

Originally Posted by IVC

I would add a third reason.

When you reload, you control the components that go into the rounds and you can get the load that works really well for both you and your gun. You control the energy, the impulse, the accuracy, the terminal performance and everything in between.

Absolutely true, I?ll never stop reloading. I still shoot 45 and 40 too, noway way you can buy that ammo at anywhere near reloading prices.

As far as 9mm goes I?ll continue to reload it, but with the cost of training ammo going down from time to time I will supplement my on hand inventory with new complete ammo.

I shot 150 rounds of the 2a remanufactured 115 g this morning with my SP-01. Pretty happy with it, every round shot and functioned fine. Inspecting the ammo should no irregularities, casings, bullets and primers looked great. They claim 1200 ft per second and I believe it, pretty stout not powder puff loads by any means. Would not have a problem buying more, although like you were saying I much prefer the recoil impulse of 124g to 115g.

[TomReloaded]

Most cheap fmj is unnecessarily hot.

Super vel select is cheap and makes uspsa pf/130pf.

[stormvet]

Originally Posted by TomReloaded

Most cheap fmj is unnecessarily hot.

Super vel select is cheap and makes uspsa pf/130pf.

True, but I prefer a little hot over powder puff/weaker ammo. I reload my training ammo on the hot side to more equal the felt recoil of my plus P carry rounds in 9mm works for me.

[stormvet]

Shot another 150 rounds of the 2a remanufactured 115g ammo, this time with a Glock 19. All but one round fired without issue, had one light primer strike no fire. Loaded the round again and it fired, so far one stoppage out of 300 in two different guns. I’ll keep a tally for the complete 1000 rounds and then make a decision on if I’ll buy any more after.

[CSACANNONEER]

Originally Posted by SunnySky

I am new to shooting and have never reloaded or used remanufactured ammo.

Just curious, is it worth to reload or purchase remanufactured ammo for $15 less?

You will NEVER "save" money reloading. Reloading/handloading is a hobby into itself. If you get into the hobby, you will shoot more, have control over your ammo, be able to tailor ammo to one specific firearm, have better (or worse) ammo than you can buy (depending on your QC), etc.

[stormvet]

Originally Posted by CSACANNONEER

You will NEVER "save" money reloading. Reloading/handloading is a hobby into itself. If you get into the hobby, you will shoot more, have control over your ammo, be able to tailor ammo to one specific firearm, have better (or worse) ammo than you can buy (depending on your QC), etc.

True, I?ve always said I don?t save a dime reloading, but I get to shot three times as much.

[sigstroker]

Originally Posted by CSACANNONEER

You will NEVER "save" money reloading. Reloading/handloading is a hobby into itself. If you get into the hobby, you will shoot more, have control over your ammo, be able to tailor ammo to one specific firearm, have better (or worse) ammo than you can buy (depending on your QC), etc.

You can - you just have to buy enough stuff and then not use it for 20 years. Then the crap behaves like a mini stock market. My penny primers, six cent Winchester jacketed bullets, and $200 Dillons make me able to reload for very cheap.

[robledor]

I'm also reloading at
$35 per 1k of 147 grain 9mm bullet
$30 lb 244
$35 primers from 4 years ago
I think I'm good to go

[M76]

Originally Posted by CSACANNONEER

You will NEVER "save" money reloading. Reloading/handloading is a hobby into itself. If you get into the hobby, you will shoot more, have control over your ammo, be able to tailor ammo to one specific firearm, have better (or worse) ammo than you can buy (depending on your QC), etc.

^^this^^

Reloading is rewarding in ways other than money spent or saved

[CSACANNONEER]

Originally Posted by sigstroker

You can - you just have to buy enough stuff and then not use it for 20 years. Then the crap behaves like a mini stock market. My penny primers, six cent Winchester jacketed bullets, and $200 Dillons make me able to reload for very cheap.

I'm still working on some $7.50/K primers I bought about 6 years ago and some $10-$30 8lb jugs of powder that I picked up at the same time. That doesn't mean that I have "saved" money. I spent well over $1K that day. The fact is that if one is trying to "save money" by reloading, they won't save anything unless they consider it a hobby and don't include their time to gather components, equipment and the time it takes to prep brass and reload. If they are only trying to save money and value their time at $XX/hour, they won't save a cent and will end up selling their reloading equipment and components at a loss.

[smoothy8500]

Even at todays prices, reloading is still cheaper than whatever ammo we are seeing for sale.

[CSACANNONEER]

Originally Posted by smoothy8500

Even at todays prices, reloading is still cheaper than whatever ammo we are seeing for sale.

It will take a long time to break even if one counts their investment in equipment. Even if they only feel their time is worth minimum wage, they will NEVER break even if they try to include the time they've invested in the hobby.

[stormvet]

Originally Posted by CSACANNONEER

It will take a long time to break even if one counts their investment in equipment. Even if they only feel their time is worth minimum wage, they will NEVER break even if they try to include the time they've invested in the hobby.

My equipment has paid for it self many many times over.

The time factor is not huge concern for me, as I don?t designate a certain amount of time to it. If I got nothing going on for the next 30 minutes I?ll do a little reloading. Waiting for the wife to get ready, I?ll do a little reloading. It?s Sunday all the chores are done, wife?s talking to her sister on the phone I?ll do a little reloading. Agree it does take time, but it never really cuts into my time too much. When I first started decades ago, yeah I spent way too much time with it. Now it?s more of something to pass the time with when I got nothing going on.

[sigstroker]

I saw Winchester 9mm for $200 per thousand, complete loaded ammo. I think I posted it but it got deleted, like a lot of my other ammo postings. My Winchester buckshot post was deleted too, so I'm essentially being told the mods don't like my ammo posts.

[hambam105]

That 9mm reload you have in your magazine right now might be the round you need when the SHTF.

Match day or practice day, recreational power factors are no longer an issue. Standard pressure loads.
Not over, not under. Hard cast or jacketed bullets only. No more cheap bullets or ad hoc assembly practices.

The ability to focus & pay attention to detail is a desirable skill. Always stay sharp and be professional.