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Old 08-09-2019, 12:33 PM
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Default What are requirements to initiate a welfare check?

And what stage determines an LEO to make entry of a home base on “welfare check”?

Example.
You break off with GF, you ex-communicate her but she is still trying to find you or just to make trouble, she calls cops to do welfare check saying she is worried she hasn’t heard from you, but you turned off phone and left town to get away, cops knock on door with no answer, can they make entry?
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:52 PM
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Too obtuse of a question.
If you are having problems, proactively call the PD and chat with the watch commander. Your address will have a history associated with it and your phone numbers.



It all depends on what and how she says it....

I’m afraid he killed himself and he has guns everywhere
Or
I can reach him on the phone
Or I can’t reach him on phone, what’s app and he deleted me off of social media.
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Old 08-09-2019, 2:01 PM
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Great, thanks for giving stalkers ideas.
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Old 08-09-2019, 2:18 PM
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I do not know about this situation, but a few years ago my grandmother had her phone off the hook for several hours and I called the police and they did a welfare check. She was fine. Just didn't hang up all the way.
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Great, thanks for giving stalkers ideas.

Isn’t that the truth.

Unfortunately for me my stalker used to call the police and request welfare checks at all hours of the day and night. She would claim that I was in a fight and was worried about me or claim that I called her and told her that I was injured, all sorts of BS. I was told each time that if there is ANY possibility that the report is credible that the police must respond, in person, even at 4:30am.

As for making entry, I have no clue of the legal requirements but hopefully one of the resident LEO’s will answer that.

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Sign up for welfare and wait for the check in the mail.
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Put a note on the front door that reads

"Crazy ex, I am fine. Gone fishing".
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being a single mother with kids under 18 , "baby mama"
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Yesterday, the California State Supreme Court issued a decision that significantly restricted the ability of LEOs to conduct non-consensual entries and searches under the "Community Caretaker" doctrine.

Please see my comments in this thread for further info:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...7#post23307687
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Yesterday, the California State Supreme Court issued a decision that significantly restricted the ability of LEOs to conduct non-consensual entries and searches under the "Community Caretaker" doctrine.

Please see my comments in this thread for further info:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...7#post23307687
Just read People v Ovieda thank you for the update.
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It used to be that if the PD/SO got a call to welfare check on a person the LEO had to come out to the place and communicate with the subject/person before they could leave. If no response the LEO could come in by any means necessary. Exigent circumstances over ride permissions.
Once the LEO is in the house they can look around until contact is made and if anything else is in the house is suspicious looking it is fair game. Not a search, but open view kinda stuff. Smells too.

If that changed then that's great.
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