Arizona CWP Renewal & New Application Processing

[Someday]

Originally Posted by broadside

Mailed my renewal on 12/28/22. With the holidays and such, we'll see how long it takes.

Expires Mar 27, but at least AZ is constitutional carry now, though that screws me with the feds due to the school zones that are down the road from the family I would go visit.

That is the exact reason why I still renew mine. Hopefully you'll get yours before the trip.

[CessnaDriver]

Renewal is in the mail they said. Almost three months for me.
After 75 days you may have to goose them by email.

[Toy4Rick]

I emailed my packet 12/27 and 10 days later it was back at my house requesting an updated doc, not bad... hope they process it as quickly when they get it the second time around

We leave mid Mar on a long trip back east, sure would be nice to have it in hand when we leave

Good luck all

[broadside]

Originally Posted by Toy4Rick

I emailed my packet 12/27 and 10 days later it was back at my house requesting an updated doc, not bad... hope they process it as quickly when they get it the second time around

We leave mid Mar on a long trip back east, sure would be nice to have it in hand when we leave

Good luck all

This is why you get multiple states with overlapping effective dates.

[thethreegs]

N/A

[thethreegs]

N/A

[stag6.8]

Originally Posted by broadside

This is why you get multiple states with overlapping effective dates.

Exactly...this is why I have the Arizona, Utah and Florida permits..overlapping coverage.

[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by thethreegs

Does anyone know if a California ccw training certificate suffices? I mailed a copy of mine bc my California ccw hasn’t been issued yet.

EDIT: Turns out, they don’t. Does anyone know instead of waiting for them to return the packet, if they will accept me sending a copy of my CCW separately so it doesn’t delay my application? Ugh, frustrated I didn’t know they didn’t accept California training.

They accept a CA training cert IF they 'uses instructors who are certified by the national rifle association'.
The requirements are spelled out on their site.
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03112.htm

[broadside]

So I mailed my renewal on 12/28/22 and they postmarked my permit envelope 1/9/23.

That's like a 7 business days if my form arrived right away, including the holiday!

[thethreegs]

N/A

[ezaircon4jc]

DD214's satisfy as training.

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by thethreegs

It's not spelled out. Is it an instructor that teaches a course that is not an official NRA course but he is certified NRA instructor considered acceptable? Or does it have to be a course that is an NRA course?

I also want to know if it is possible to send them a copy of the CCW in the mail separately IF they do not accept my training certificate or if I am going to have to wait for them to send back my packet.

It does NOT need to be an NRA course, as long as the course is taught by an NRA instructor. His NRA instructor number should be listed on the certificate. If it’s not, that’s probably why they didn’t accept it.

To answer your second question, yes. It was in the link (list of appropriate training) Lady Ruger posted:

6. A valid current or expired concealed weapon, firearm or handgun permit or license that is issued by another state or a political subdivision of another state and that has a training or testing requirement for initial issuance.

[Ocdlaw]

Originally Posted by thethreegs

I know a CCW is accepted. I mailed mine well before my CCW will be issued, in hopes of receiving it before my CA one. My California CCW certificate does NOT have an NRA instructor # on it. I am hoping that it is either accepted or if it is not, they will let me send a photocopy of a my CCW which I will be getting next week instead of waiting for them to finally get to my packet and have to wait until they mail it back to me.

I was trying to get my AZ ccw in the mean time since I already had done the training but did not receive my CA ccw yet.

My training certificate for Orange County CCW had no reference to the NRA and they accepted it though I also attached a copy of my CCW.

[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by Ocdlaw

My training certificate for Orange County CCW had no reference to the NRA and they accepted it though I also attached a copy of my CCW.

They accepted your CCW not your training certificate.

[Ocdlaw]

The point is, they knew I had no "NRA" training.

[mej16489]

Originally Posted by Ocdlaw

The point is, they knew I had no "NRA" training.

The don't care if you've had NRA training or not, they care if you meet the statutory requirement needed to issue you an AZ CCW.

Any training from an NRA instructor is grounds for approval of that 'checkbox'
Any issued CCW for which training was required is also grounds for approval for that same 'checkbox'

[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by Ocdlaw

The point is, they knew I had no "NRA" training.

No the point is they used your CCW to meet the requirement NOT your training cert.

Originally Posted by mej16489

The don't care if you've had NRA training or not, they care if you meet the statutory requirement needed to issue you an AZ CCW.

Any training from an NRA instructor is grounds for approval of that 'checkbox'
Any issued CCW for which training was required is also grounds for approval for that same 'checkbox'

Correct. His CCW copy made the training cert irrelevant.

[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by thethreegs

I called the AZ CCW Unit and the woman said my California CCW Training would be accepted. However, when I pressed her further saying there is no NRA Instructor ID # anywhere listed, she finally said that will be needed and my application packet will be returned if it is deemed invalid. Made it sound like it's a crapshoot, based on the mood of whoever happens to be administrating the application.

Quite the silly policy, considering proof of a CA CCW is valid, but the training is not. This is bad for people who want to get their AZ before their CA, since CA can take up to a year.

Forewarning to those looking to apply to AZ before their CA is issued.

There are multiple choices for satisfying the requirement:
N. An applicant shall demonstrate competence with a firearm through any of the following:

1. Completion of any firearms safety or training course or class that is available to the general public, that is offered by a law enforcement agency, a junior college, a college or a private or public institution, academy, organization or firearms training school and that is approved by the department of public safety or that uses instructors who are certified by the national rifle association.

2. Completion of any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Arizona game and fish department or a similar agency of another state.

3. Completion of any national rifle association firearms safety or training course.

4. Completion of any law enforcement firearms safety or training course or class that is offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies or other divisions or subdivisions of law enforcement or security enforcement and that is approved by the department of public safety.

5. Evidence of current military service or proof of honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions from the United States armed forces.

6. A valid current or expired concealed weapon, firearm or handgun permit or license that is issued by another state or a political subdivision of another state and that has a training or testing requirement for initial issuance.

7. Completion of any governmental police agency firearms training course and qualification to carry a firearm in the course of normal police duties.

8. Completion of any other firearms safety or training course or class that is conducted by a department of public safety approved or national rifle association certified firearms instructor.

[stag6.8]

I mailed my renewal for Arizona this past Friday...it expires in 30 days...let's see how long the renewal takes

[CessnaDriver]

As others said, the hologram is gone.
Guess it’s cheaper to make them and counterfeits were just not a concern.

[Helmut]

For you CA CCW holders using that as proof of proficiency. Did you make a copy of the paper permit or the card?

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by Helmut

For you CA CCW holders using that as proof of proficiency. Did you make a copy of the paper permit or the card?

The card, front and back, should suffice.

[Lady Ruger]

Originally Posted by Helmut

For you CA CCW holders using that as proof of proficiency. Did you make a copy of the paper permit or the card?

Card front and back.
Hubby used his DD214.

[mej16489]

My renewal is in today's outgoing mail - 91 days prior to expiration. IIRC I read someone on the app or the website that they will reject applications for renewal earlier than 90 days.

[broadside]

Originally Posted by stag6.8

I mailed my renewal for Arizona this past Friday...it expires in 30 days...let's see how long the renewal takes

as posted above, mine was received back in under two weeks

[stag6.8]

Originally Posted by broadside

as posted above, mine was received back in under two weeks

That's really quick...I hope I get the same quick turnaround time too.

[SCMA-1]

Mailed August 31 2022, received January 21 2023

[thethreegs]

Originally Posted by SCMA-1

Mailed August 31 2022, received January 21 2023

Crazy to me how wide the the gap is among applicants. Some people get their cards, whether a new application or a renewal, as fast a week and some people it takes almost a year.

[Toy4Rick]

I noted above, new permit was back in just under 2 weeks, I believe it was 13 days

[S45]

New permit was 22 days for me.
When I had called to check on the status the nice lady told me it was approved and “sent out” 5 days prior. This worried me since I hadn’t received it in the mail - I thought it might have been lost.
I’d imagine it was sitting approved in a pile somewhere and she then mailed it after I checked because it then came the following day.

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by S45

New permit was 22 days for me.
When I had called to check on the status the nice lady told me it was approved and “sent out” 5 days prior. This worried me since I hadn’t received it in the mail - I thought it might have been lost.
I’d imagine it was sitting approved in a pile somewhere and she then mailed it after I checked because it then came the following day.

You called for an update less than a month in?

[S45]

Originally Posted by 9Cal_OC

You called for an update less than a month in?

Yes because they cashed my money order and I waited a week and a half for it to show up - when it hadn’t yet, I called.
Plus everyone I knew was getting theirs in 10-20 days.