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Old 09-13-2018, 5:32 PM
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Default Hunter shoots friend, mistakes him for deer in CA Valley, officials say

The following is a cut/paste from KSBY news. Never hurts to wear hunter orange, especially if you hunt on public land or with guys like this.

A man was shot in California Valley Thursday morning after being mistaken for a deer, according to Fish and Wildlife.

Patrol Lieutenant Todd Tognazzini says a group of deer hunters were in the area off Caliente Ridge Road near Cuyama when one of the men misidentified another man for a deer in the brush.

The victim, said to be in his 60s, was reportedly shot in the shoulder with a high-powered rifle.

Tognazzini says the man's injuries appear to be non-life threatening. He was taken by helicopter to a hospital in Kern County.

The sheriff's office responded, but handed the investigation over to Fish and Wildlife once foul play was ruled out, Tognazzini said, adding that he was unaware of any violations related to Thursday's shooting.

The men involved were part of a group of five adults and one juvenile, according to Tognazzini, who says they are from out of the area.

http://www.ksby.com/story/39088301/h...-officials-say
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Old 09-13-2018, 6:01 PM
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Sad...and totally unnecessary. Maybe I'm hopeless but I'd rather come home empty-handed than take a shot that's too far or where the target is doubtful.

I had to get an orange vest for a hunt in Canada last year and I'm planning on wearing it when three of us meander into D3-5 later next month.
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Old 09-13-2018, 6:23 PM
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Lots of people shot wearing blaze orange.
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Old 09-13-2018, 8:25 PM
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Moronic!

How many points were on that buck he thought he saw?

Itís your responsibility to identify before squeezing the trigger!
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Old 09-13-2018, 9:15 PM
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and yet you have all the high speed CalGunners freaking out about how to fend off a mountain lion.

It’s the goofball desperate hunter you have to worry about.

The curious part is I know that area they were hunting. It’s pretty open with scattered brush and junipers. If you see a deer, there plenty of time to let it expose itself. Not much need to take a shot through brush.
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When I hear about stuff like this it raises a lot of questions but for me one of the most interesting is this: What part of that 'deer' was he specifically aiming for?

One of the first things I was taught was to not just aim for something with hair on it, but to pick a specific place where I wanted the bullet to hit, and aim carefully for that spot. I have to think he saw some brush move or some movement past an obstruction and let loose, the hunting equivalent of spray and pray.
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Old 09-14-2018, 4:45 AM
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Itís the goofball desperate hunter you have to worry about.
...and hunters who shoot while drinking and hunters who shoot at stuff far away...

[rant on]The vast majority of gun owners I've met seem to be pretty responsible 9Tannerite Man and Bottle Killer are rare exceptions), but it only takes a few idiots to make the rest of us look like we're undisciplined, reckless and dangerous.[/rant off]
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You never know. Once out 7 miles in a primitive area, no roads, but is accessible by equestrians. Anyway, while on a stand I notice movement on the horizon as I gazed through the foxtails. It looks like a coyote, very light and the texture of coyote fur. I get ready and wait for the target to appear from the horizon for a positive identification.
As the target apears, it turns out to be the blond hair on the head of a kid that is out with his father and brother, about 60 yards away, they never knew that I was there. Always identify your target and backstop 100% of the time, never shoot or aim at sound or movement, and never use a rifle scope to identify movement, sound, or to scan for targets.

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When I hear about stuff like this it raises a lot of questions but for me one of the most interesting is this: What part of that 'deer' was he specifically aiming for?

One of the first things I was taught was to not just aim for something with hair on it, but to pick a specific place where I wanted the bullet to hit, and aim carefully for that spot. I have to think he saw some brush move or some movement past an obstruction and let loose, the hunting equivalent of spray and pray.
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Old 09-14-2018, 5:26 AM
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Only slight differences in terrain can make the difference, could be the shooter was lower than the guy that he shot, and or obscured by brush, may be in a condition where an optical illusion interfered with the shooters senses.

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and yet you have all the high speed CalGunners freaking out about how to fend off a mountain lion.

It’s the goofball desperate hunter you have to worry about.

The curious part is I know that area they were hunting. It’s pretty open with scattered brush and junipers. If you see a deer, there plenty of time to let it expose itself. Not much need to take a shot through brush.
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Old 09-14-2018, 5:36 AM
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It sucks for all involved.
I'm not trying to be holier than thou, but that's why it's important to know where your hunting partners may be.
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Old 09-14-2018, 5:51 AM
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This is why I don't go out on opening weekend and don't deer hunt in areas near major population centers. I'm pretty picky about hunting partners too. I've seen too many morons with rifles and drunk hunters.
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Old 09-14-2018, 5:55 AM
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I have witnessed some dumbass shoot at "I thought I saw something"

I was in the rocks high at the top of Kirkwood ski resort, waiting for daylight on opening morning. I had a great view of the treeline from above, and thought I was all set. This guy walks along the treeline, stops, takes his rifle off of his shoulder, shoots, puts it back on his shoulder and starts to walk. My buddy made a noise like throat clearing, and the guy looked up startled, and said "I thought I saw something."

It was the last time I went on to public land during hunting season.
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I have a good friend that witnessed another hunter shoot is own 12 year old daughter...he never hunted big game again.
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Old 09-14-2018, 6:18 AM
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Most people cant follow basic Firearm rules Writen on everywall , Signing a Waiver and , with people watching them . Now those same people wondering the Outdoors . With no Supervision. I've seen a couple of Crazy things and read a Bunch more . Be careful out there. Imagine if you were wounded by one of these clowns and they either just left you or didn't relize they hit anything .
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Safety first above all else. You must identify and confirm your target/ animal first before pulling the trigger. It blows my mind to hear hunters that shoot at brush that moved or towards a direction they thought they saw movement.

Choose hunting partners wisely, discuss safety before hunts and back at camp especially with new hunters, and be aware that there may be other hunters out there also.
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Old 09-14-2018, 8:04 AM
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What those 4 rules again?

Was it a Doe, Buck, Juvenile? What was the tag for- any age or sex?

Just negligent


1 Treat firearms as if they are loaded
2 Point the muzzle away from non-targets
3 Keep fingers off the trigger
4 Be sure of the target and of what is in front of and beyond it
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D zones are scary freaking places on opening weekend.

Anecdote: Meriwether Lewis (of Lewis & Clark) was shot in the butt by one of his own guys while hunting elk.
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D zones are scary freaking places on opening weekend.
You aren't shatting!!!!! Especially the southern D-zones. I had a group of Hmong hunters throw lead right over my head 5 years ago in a very remote area in D8. I went out for the D9 general opener in 2014, and saw 3 does running around my camp site with arrows stuck in them, lol. It can be a circus in the southern D zones, especially since the deer love the areas the public has access to more than the really remote areas. Seems like all of Bakersfield, Visalia, Fresno, and Los Angeles flock to this little area; and you get more boneheads per acre than any other zones.
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This should be a crime. MORONS shooting at noises. Should be automatic jail time.

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... and never use a rifle scope to identify movement, sound, or to scan for targets.
The amount of hunters I see without binoculars is terrifying!! MORONS!
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I have a good friend that witnessed another hunter shoot is own 12 year old daughter...he never hunted big game again.
God damn that's terrible.
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ws shot by a kid from santa barbara several years in Cuyma valley on the south Chimineas ranch. Had 6 pellets removed.
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This is why I don't go out on opening weekend and don't deer hunt in areas near major population centers. I'm pretty picky about hunting partners too. I've seen too many morons with rifles and drunk hunters.
This story wasnít opener and wasnít near any major population centers. It was deep in The mountains surrounding the Carrizo Plains.
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I wonder if anallace is still lurking or if he bailed when he didn’t get what he wanted(probably). But, he should read these stories to understand why people are hesitant to bring unknown hunters along.
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