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Default Santa Clara County Sheriff Candidate Forum Sept 12th 6:30 p.m.

Attention Santa Clara county voters. Here is your chance to hear from the two candidate's running for Sheriff.

Sept. 12th
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Santa Clara County sheriff candidates trade barbs, revive racist-text scandal at first general election debate
Five-term incumbent Santa Clara County Sheriff Laurie Smith and former Undersheriff John Hirokawa square off at NAACP forum ahead of rare runoff race


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The two also debated how the office issues concealed-carry weapons permits in the county. Smith has been accused of playing politics when deciding who receives the hard-to-get gun privilege.

Hirokawa said he “wants to take politics out of concealed-carry permits,” while Smith defended her practices, saying she has been judicious and doles them out based on an applicant having a “good defined need.”
More at: https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/09/...ection-debate/

Two observations: (1) the only way to "take politics out of concealed-carry permits" is to gut the GC requirement by making SD = GC. Is that what Hirokawa will do? Has anyone contacted his campaign to ask how he intends to "take politics out of concealed-carry permits"?

(2) If Smith is defending her current practices, don't expect her to change her ways. Unless Santa Clara Co folk step up and use the tactics San Diego Co Gun Owners did to get Gore to liberalize issuance, it probably won't happen with Smith. See here for what SDCGO did: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...7#post22052537
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on point 2, you are right. it seems obvious to me.
on point 1. What he is saying is that he will make it fair. It will be done consistently across the board. Not given out for political favors as Smith has done.
Hes not as open as we would like but hes far more open than Smith is and the hope is that once he sees that more CCWs dont create chaos in the streets, he may relax even more.
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on point 2, you are right. it seems obvious to me.
on point 1. What he is saying is that he will make it fair. It will be done consistently across the board. Not given out for political favors as Smith has done.
Hes not as open as we would like but hes far more open than Smith is and the hope is that once he sees that more CCWs dont create chaos in the streets, he may relax even more.


Where did you get this information? Are you the person that knows someone in his campaign?
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on point 2, you are right. it seems obvious to me.
on point 1. What he is saying is that he will make it fair. It will be done consistently across the board. Not given out for political favors as Smith has done.
Well, that means he'll take Santa Clara from dark red (highly restrictive, rarely issues), to light red (highly restrictive, regularly issues).

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Hes not as open as we would like but hes far more open than Smith is and the hope is that once he sees that more CCWs dont create chaos in the streets, he may relax even more.
Hope? Heck, I don't even fully trust explicit campaign promises, much less "hope" for something he won't even promise to do.

As far as "once he sees that more CCWs dont create chaos in the streets": that's B.S. and you probably know it. In the past 30+ years of CCW liberalization, where has it ever caused "chaos in the streets"? In the 45 out of 58 CA counties that liberally issue, where has it done that? NOWHERE! He knows it. Smith knows it. We all know it. It is all B.S.

People want CCWs to be able to protect themselves. They are popular with the voters. (In 2016 OC was fully expecting to pass 20,000 CCWers ("the demand is absolutely out there": http://behindthebadgeoc.com/cities/o...weapon-permits). Yet, for some reason, both Smith (a Repub) and Hirokawa (a Dem) would rather disarm the law-abiding than implement a CCW policy that voters and history have shown to be a winning position. Why?



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Where did you get this information? Are you the person that knows someone in his campaign?
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For the record, a buddy of mine in the department (who one could not call "liberal" in any sense) says Hirokawa is the best option of the group.
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Of the 2, Hirokawa is our guy. Hes smart enough not to publicly say much on CCW. I can pretty much guarantee you the CCW situation will improve under Hirokawa though. I know someone in his campaign. Im not going to say any more on the public post here. And Smith, I dont think, will budge on CCW till hell freezes over.
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So, are you Santa Clara Co folk going to doing ANYTHING to help Hirokawa win???

Have you contacted his campaign and said you'd like to donate $$$ to help him win BECAUSE you want him to liberalize CCW issuance?

Have you contacted his campaign and offered to volunteer a regular number of hours each week to help his campaign BECAUSE you want him to liberalize CCW issuance? (Your kids can help out, making it a family affair and they might be able to get school credit for it!)

Do you really expect Hirokawa to go to the mat for you when you won't go to the mat for him???
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