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Thank you AR for analysis . Guess the lesson here is if a law changes one is better to bail out of California. Must be costing this guy a fortune. Last edited by ja308; 01-07-2019 at 4:25 PM.. |
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Edit: for the record I don't agree with most gun laws, I'm just bringing this up to make the point that not all of the charges were due to misunderstanding overly complex BS laws. |
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Is the suppressor issue being prosecuted as a state crime? Doesn't seem like that should be very severe. |
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^1.5 to 3 years in prison + $10,000 fine. All of the subject's charges are CA state offenses (possessing assault weapons and silencers). No Federal charges for the Title 2 Silencer because it was legally obtain by a NV NFA Trust and there is no violation of Federal laws for taking a legal silencer into a State that prohibits it's possession. Federal laws/regulations requires BATFE approval in order to legally transport Title 2 DD, Title 2 MG, Title 2 SBR, and Title 2 SBS across state lines (into another State). There is no Federal requirement to obtained BATFE approval to transport Title 2 AOW and Title 2 Silencer into other States.
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So basically this is a good guy who wanted to play by rules in that he followed fed law. Too bad this state is more concerned with harassing people who have no criminal intent as opposed to the very dangerous people who seem to operate w/o consequences. |
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It's a stretch and wouldn't help his case, but what if he got all the firearms and related stuff in the divorce and the ex got the out of state property where the suppressors were stored, then being unaware of the mess of CA laws, imported the suppressors.
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All of the assault weapons charges were for firearms that violated CA laws that were in effect for last 19 years. ^All of the firearms had factory magazine release (detachable magazines) and restricted features. The CA ban on silencers has been in effect for last 90 years.
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if someone can explain to me how to post his "motion to quash" everyone should read... its now public. Will make you realize and answer all your questions and comments...The DOJ LE..... are in there own world. The motion only points out certain facts, there are so many wrong, may confuse the judge.so points at 1-2 issue wrong .. but you guys need to read it.
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He may have had no ill intent... that's not the same as " so he wasn't a criminal".
He committed several crimes, most of which were felonies. That's pretty much the definition of "criminal" and I'd be shocked for the court not to see it that way. It's a sad fact that our laws are criminalizing a lot of harmless decent people over "paper" crimes... things that are only "wrong" because of words written on paper somewhere that lawyers and judges are slaves to, rather than because they're hurting anyone.
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The guns laws change continuously and it’s not like they send you a letter stating that what you bought 27 years ago has been redifined as something illegal to own?? That’s a legal case right there. Which one of you wealthy gun people want to take that on? |
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In fact it would be easy to claim he was fairly knowledgable of gun laws in CA because of the Pawn swap ownership change he performed on the AR pistol that was the catalyst for all this mess. |
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Every day it’s becomes more and more clear reg was this states biggest trap.
Too bad this state can’t be charged for entrapment. What a sham the whole thing was. I guess technically he’s a “criminal” as he committed a “crime” but where is the line drawn. If they make jay walking a felony am I really to consider someone walking at the wrong time a “criminal”..... |
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I don’t agree with this. If they could have avoided letting BB rifle owners register they would have. I think they had to offer it because they had let the BB “loophole” go on for so many years. In addition I am really starting to believe that the registered SACF rifles will be the last to survive in CA.
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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." It's the LAW. |
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Shall not be infringed....? It doesn’t say shall not be infringed except when others really really want it to be.
Since it’s not repealed, I’d say everything after that is null. |
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A waste of tax dollars on prosecution of a man trying to comply with over complex rules.
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No, they are applications of law, which are part of the body of law. The Bill of Rights are not an affirmative grant of law; they are a short list of things the Federal govenrment cannot do. As I am sure you recall, there was an argument against including them, because the principles were considered so obvious, there was no need.
Supreme Court cases are (part of) The Law. |
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For the record.. The DOJ is WRONG, there was never an application on DEC 7(my father was in SB having open heart that day and I was there), when they replied to my application on NOV 2(applied Oct. 17) the AR pistol was in my "legal" wife’s name through CFARS, I knew it could not be registered. Or could be "jointly”. I took and put in my name and configured into legal configuration (non-register config... DFM) sometime after the 10 day wait... the doj got the "paper work" all ****ed up. They came 5 months later.. With NO investigation. (Why was no warrant issued for the multiple properties I own?? Why at this one? Why not my laquinta home? north Idaho?, Arizona? Or the multiple farmhouses and the multiple yards with storage facilities?? This needs to be public! I go to court Monday FEB4. I want the motion Public, Also understand there are so many more things they did that are disgusting. But we had to lay out simple facts for the judge to rule on (pray he/she understands). If anyone can help??? Let it be known. My computer skills are limited. The CA DOJ is so ****ed up! They need to held accountable...
FYI they were not "silencers" and they took legal configured guns, manipulated them into "AW” That’s in the report. The CA DOJ can get a BS warrant, come into your home, take your "CA legal AR” convert and say "your a felon now?? Let the truth be known.... |
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So much sympathy for you dude. This guy needs some support. A protest. A march. A public Something. For ****s ****ing sake. |
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Therefore, a motion is argument. A motion is trying to convince the judge to give the moving party the ruling the moving party wants. So a motion sets out the moving party's side of the controversy and tries to put it in the best light possible.
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"TRUTH"??? go back to 1939 Germany.... A motion tells the judge what he was not disclosed when the officer asked for the warrant...... if the "TRUTH" was told.. there would be no thread on this. Have annother cocktail..
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The motion is setting out what the moving party claims was not properly disclosed/represented in the warrant affidavit. But the prosecution will have its opportunity to file opposition and to argue its position. The judge will then decide. You're of course emotionally involved. Your vision is therefore distorted by confirmation bias. We should look at the motion and the opposition and see how the judge ultimately rules.
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IOW, the hoi polloi here on calguns are unlikely to be able to help you. However, this is a public forum that any interested LEO/prosecutors can read and reference... -- Michael |
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Bakofarmer,
Listen to your counsel. I am sure you should only be posting what they approve. We're on your side. where is your gofundme for your legal defense?
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As much as we’d love to see bakoFarmer prevail and read about his travails, his postings probably frustrate his attorney to no avail.
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This would suggest maybe a good idea to have pictures of all our featureless.
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