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Old 11-06-2018, 10:13 PM
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Thumbs down Those who didn't vote for Cox.

Those who didn't vote for Cox tonight because you're sour about Travis Allen losing. Those who didn't like Newsom and Cox so didn't vote for neither. Those who were just too lazy to vote. THUMBS DOWN. This was a uphill fight but it wasn't a landslide win for Newsom.
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Those who didn't vote for Cox tonight because you're sour about Tim Allen losing. Those who didn't like Newsom and Cox so didn't vote for neither. Those who were just too lazy to vote. This was a uphill fight but it wasn't a landslide win for Newsom.
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Those who didn't vote for Cox tonight because you're sour about Travis Allen losing. Those who didn't like Newsom and Cox so didn't vote for neither. Those who were just too lazy to vote. THUMBS DOWN. This was a uphill fight but it wasn't a landslide win for Newsom.
^^ this X 1000!

. . . we finally got a Rep candidate on the ballot and let that slim chance slip away.

Cox wasn't my first choice, but he would've been infinitely better than GN.
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Those who didn't vote for Cox tonight because you're sour about Travis Allen losing. Those who didn't like Newsom and Cox so didn't vote for neither. Those who were just too lazy to vote. THUMBS DOWN. This was a uphill fight but it wasn't a landslide win for Newsom.
Cox never had a prayer. CA has an at least 6:4 advantage for Democrats.
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Cox had more counties as a whole voting for him , 55% of the counties voted for him but Newsome had the counties with the highest populace. LA county alone was 1.3 million for Newsome
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I talked 13 of my family/friends who were going to vote NewScum to vote Cox. I wish I could have changed more.
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Those who didn't vote for Cox tonight because you're sour about Travis Allen losing. Those who didn't like Newsom and Cox so didn't vote for neither. Those who were just too lazy to vote. THUMBS DOWN. This was a uphill fight but it wasn't a landslide win for Newsom.
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^^^^THIS! Fuc#k all the gun owners who voted for a single democrat or who did not vote for Cox. THEY are the real enemy in our midst!!
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I'm pretty sure most of the Allen supporters gave their vote to Cox. It was always a long shot or have you forgotten we're in CA.
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Agreed. I was for Allen but voted for Cox. As the dust is settling, you just have to wonder how many illegals voted to put Nuisance in?
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I would not say that he did not have a "payer" but it was a very long shot.

Just reinforces my decision to move to Idaho next year.
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I agree, there was even some ****wits that said they would not vote for governor at all on this very forum. It's pretty damn pathetic. And Gavin did not get the landslide everybody else said he would.
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This, California is already past the tipping point. The only thing that will save California is when there is nobody left to tax the Progressive agenda will collapse under it's own weight.

Liberal Politicians already know this, which is why they pad their own nests.

If Conservatives can't find a way to reach voters in the cities and suburbs the nation will follow.

Thank God we are gaining SCOTUS to slow down their agenda.
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That's nothing that a good earthquake that causes San Francisco and Hollywood to fall off into the Pacific would solve for the rest of us peace loving Californians.
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Newsom would have had to defile his marriage by cheating with his best friend's wife for Dems to have not voted for him.

Oh, wait.... WHAT?!?!?
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Those who didn't vote for Cox tonight because you're sour about Travis Allen losing. Those who didn't like Newsom and Cox so didn't vote for neither. Those who were just too lazy to vote. THUMBS DOWN. This was a uphill fight but it wasn't a landslide win for Newsom.
It has nothing to do with Allen. Cox is short by roughly 1.3M of votes, while Allen only got 440K in primaries. Moreover, if you run the primaries' numbers you will see the very close 40-60 ratio as in the mid-terms. Allen's hardcore supporters are NOT to blame. The reality is that CA is a blue state with a good safety margin.
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^^^^THIS! Fuc#k all the gun owners who voted for a single democrat or who did not vote for Cox. THEY are the real enemy in our midst!!
I voted for Frankenstein- as did many others here. Does that count? We basically retired DeLeon by doing so.
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I voted for Frankenstein- as did many others here. Does that count? We basically retired DeLeon by doing so.
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Regardless of the fact that Newsom was most likely to win, it was a very bad move for 2 Republicans to go for the vote. Of those two, Cox was the least likable. I believe without Cox in the run, Allen could have pulled it off. Voters want pretty people, which is why Texas Trudeau got so much support from all directions. He was to win against Cruz and then run for Prez. in 2020.
That being said, there's a chance that Newsom will have higher ambitions on a national level once his California gig is over.
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Mine is a life-long Democrat (from a family of Democrats back several generations) and SHE can't stand the Grease Monkey.
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Regardless of the fact that Newsom was most likely to win, it was a very bad move for 2 Republicans to go for the vote. Of those two, Cox was the least likable. I believe without Cox in the run, Allen could have pulled it off. Voters want pretty people, which is why Texas Trudeau got so much support from all directions. He was to win against Cruz and then run for Prez. in 2020.
That being said, there's a chance that Newsom will have higher ambitions on a national level once his California gig is over.


I completely agree with this. I didn't even realize Cox was running until just before the Primaries when Trump endorsed him. If it was JUST Allen, I think we would have had a more solid chance. Allen had the "politician" look that Californians seem to like, experience, etc. Not sure why Trump went with Cox.
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Mine is a life-long Democrat (from a family of Democrats back several generations) and SHE can't stand the Grease Monkey.
Which reminds me of a serious Democratic party split in California. I recall receiving a voter's flyer from Newsom, which among other Dem choices endorsed a … Rep for the House, even though she ran against Warren's backed Dem. It was sort of amusing. So, Dems are biting each other real hard.

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Cox being a longshot is an understatement. Newsom didn't even have to campaign to win. Didn't even bother submitting a candidate statement for the voter information guide, and the race was called at 8:01pm.

So now we got the guy that literally turned SF into a toilet as our governor. Great!
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Cox being a longshot is an understatement. Newsom didn't even have to campaign to win. Didn't even bother submitting a candidate statement for the voter information guide, and the race was called at 8:01pm.

So now we got the guy that literally turned SF into a toilet as our governor. Great!
He did his best supporting Cox in primaries to eliminate Villaraigosa and avoid SF vs LA fight. After that, he had no other option, but win
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Agreed. I was for Allen but voted for Cox. As the dust is settling, you just have to wonder how many illegals voted to put Nuisance in?
I heard the entire caravan coming up from Honduras voted for Newsom.

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It has nothing to do with Allen. Cox is short by roughly 1.3M of votes, while Allen only got 440K in primaries. Moreover, if you run the primaries' numbers you will see the very close 40-60 ratio as in the mid-terms. Allen's hardcore supporters are NOT to blame. The reality is that CA is a blue state with a good safety margin.
Yup. Only a miracle could've helped.
Who said anything about Allen hardcore supporters, I'm a Allen hardcore supporter, I donated money to his campaign and was passing fliers out at guneffects in city of industry asking for people to go out and vote and also support Allen. Why do you think hardcore Allen supporters didn't vote for Cox, I know myself and many friends who were Allen supporters go out yesterday and vote for Cox.
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There's 3.8M more registered dems in CA than registered repubs. Cox had no chance to win.
FACT: Only 44% of the registered voters in CA are Democrats.
Cox lost because of Republican and Independent crossovers and apathy.
These people must think weaponizing the FBI against the opposition party, foreign invasions, and fake bombs are acceptable. The same puppet-masters who brought you these events are at work in CA.
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you guys know that while registered D's outnumber registered R's in this state, the turnout for this mid-term in CA was only 36.9% ; this is actually less than the 2014 mid-term elections. so all those "get out to vote" crap that the Dems keep pushing for younger adults to go vote always fall on deaf ears.

https://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/maps/voter-turnout

so it didn't matter that the D's had 3.8 million more voters, 2/3 of them stayed home.

but if 100% of the R voters had come out to vote for Cox, he might have had a chance to win. as it stood, a little less than half the total R voters voted for Cox. and that is assuming no one from the No Party voted for Cox or some D voters voting for Cox too (it can happen).

so the reason this state is "controlled" by the Democrats is because 2/3 of the republicans in this state won't even go vote.
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you guys know that while registered D's outnumber registered R's in this state, the turnout for this mid-term in CA was only 36.9% ; this is actually less than the 2014 mid-term elections. so all those "get out to vote" crap that the Dems keep pushing for younger adults to go vote always fall on deaf ears.

https://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/maps/voter-turnout

so it didn't matter that the D's had 3.8 million more voters, 2/3 of them stayed home.

but if 100% of the R voters had come out to vote for Cox, he might have had a chance to win. as it stood, a little less than half the total R voters voted for Cox. and that is assuming no one from the No Party voted for Cox or some D voters voting for Cox too (it can happen).

so the reason this state is "controlled" by the Democrats is because 2/3 of the republicans in this state won't even go vote.
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FACT: Only 44% of the registered voters in CA are Democrats.
Cox lost because of Republican and Independent crossovers and apathy.
These people must think weaponizing the FBI against the opposition party, foreign invasions, and fake bombs are acceptable. The same puppet-masters who brought you these events are at work in CA.
To those I speak of: Enjoy the repeal of Prop 13 as it is surely coming.
Both of you on point, thanks for the FACTS. I forgot to add to the list above "the people who didn't bother voting because they were already defeated and felt like a lost cause".
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Who said anything about Allen hardcore supporters, I'm a Allen hardcore supporter, I donated money to his campaign and was passing fliers out at guneffects in city of industry asking for people to go out and vote and also support Allen. Why do you think hardcore Allen supporters didn't vote for Cox, I know myself and many friends who were Allen supporters go out yesterday and vote for Cox.
I call it reading comprehension problem. I did not say Allen's fans didn't vote for Cox. If you re-read my post, I made two points
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Those who didn't vote for Cox tonight because you're sour about Travis Allen losing. Those who didn't like Newsom and Cox so didn't vote for neither. Those who were just too lazy to vote. THUMBS DOWN. This was a uphill fight but it wasn't a landslide win for Newsom.
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It has nothing to do with Allen. Cox is short by roughly 1.3M of votes, while Allen only got 440K in primaries. Moreover, if you run the primaries' numbers you will see the very close 40-60 ratio as in the mid-terms. Allen's hardcore supporters are NOT to blame. The reality is that CA is a blue state with a good safety margin.
Yup. Only a miracle could've helped.
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I call it reading comprehension problem. I did not say Allen's fans didn't vote for Cox. If you re-read my post, I made two points
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Those who didn't vote for Cox tonight because you're sour about Travis Allen losing. Those who didn't like Newsom and Cox so didn't vote for neither. Those who were just too lazy to vote. THUMBS DOWN. This was a uphill fight but it wasn't a landslide win for Newsom.
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It has nothing to do with Allen. Cox is short by roughly 1.3M of votes, while Allen only got 440K in primaries. Moreover, if you run the primaries' numbers you will see the very close 40-60 ratio as in the mid-terms. Allen's hardcore supporters are NOT to blame. The reality is that CA is a blue state with a good safety margin.
Yup. Only a miracle could've helped.
Clearly reading comprehension when my sentence is the most clear and basic message, "THOSE who didn't vote for Cox tonight because they were sour about Allen losing." Pretty simple and clear no idea why you go on to comment Allen is not to blame and Allen's hardcore supporters are not to blame.
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I heard the entire caravan coming up from Honduras voted for Newsom.

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Cox never had a prayer. CA has an at least 6:4 advantage for Democrats.
Its about turnout. An 85% +/- turnout of registered Republicans would have won the election for Cox. Its stacked against us but the numbers are there to easily win if people could muster the strength to fill in a bubble.
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I voted for Frankenstein- as did many others here. Does that count? We basically retired DeLeon by doing so.
My thoughts as well. We need to play them against each other and in this case voting for feinstien eliminated deleon.

The number of democrates doesn't matter if more of us vote. Next election tell you lazy friends and family to get off their arshes and vote!

Out of almost 40 million, only 7 million voted.

I'm done with buying guns and ammo but I'll still stay current on the laws and still visit this forum, and I will always vote no matter how far behind things might seem.

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Old 11-08-2018, 8:52 AM
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Come on now. The Republicans run a fundamentalist carpet bagger, in CALIFORNIA, and you wonder why he lost?

Until the GOP gets their crap together in this state, they'll continue to lose.
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