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Any small to mid-size agencies working 12.5hr shifts? Looking at switching
Due to staffing, we're looking at alternative schedules. Our patrol staff is currently working a 3/12 (4 on 3 off, 3 on 4 off) with a day/night shift. I know 12.5hr requires 'less manpower' to provide coverage, but wanted to see similarly sized agencies schedules...
My peanut brain cannot wrap my head around how it would work without about 5 officers + 1 Sergeant to a shift, 7/day 24/hr coverage. I can provide staffing levels and exact numbers via PM. |
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https://www.officer.com/command-hq/n...d-power-shifts 2-3-2 seems a little better then the 'ol Panama type of 12 hour scheduling (short/long work weeks.) If you're not familiar with the Panama, here's the breakdown: Team 1/Team 3 (Days-0700 to 1900): Week 1: Mon-Tues (Off) Wed-Thurs (On) Fri-Sat-Sun (Off) Week 2: Mon-Tues (On) Wed-Thurs (Off) Fri-Sat-Sun (On) Team 2/Team 4 (Nights-1900 to 0700): Same as above If you had enough bodies you could maybe throw in a late day or swing shift crew(s), with the same rotating days off. Last edited by SB1942; 03-11-2020 at 7:31 PM.. |
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We did one "payback day" of 12 hours every month to make up the time lost working only 12 hours and 20 minutes three days a week. we had some working Mon, Tue Wed, both days and nights with shifts starting at 0540 and 1740 and ending at 1800 and 0600. Same for Thur, Fri, Sat. The "payback" days covered Sunday shifts. We changed shifts every 4 months. You could work the same shift only three times in a row. It worked really well.
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SVT-40's old 12 hr/20 min shift (with payback day) schedule is good, too. Anything to take that fourth, 12 hour day off the table is good. It seems to be a pain for most. Especially for those who commute. Last edited by SB1942; 03-13-2020 at 5:26 PM.. |
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Have you/your association reached out to other nearby associations or even through PORAC to see exactly what other agencies are doing (I know that’s what you are doing here but not sure what success you have had elsewhere)
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My agency did experiment with 12 hour shifts at one of our stations. It worked quite well with one exception. The field deputies liked it. There was less "change of shift" disruption (twice a day instead of three times per day). But the real challenge was making court appearances. L.A. County is really horrible at managing court calendars and it's not unusual for a deputy to spend all day in court, and sometimes for days in a row. When you work from 1900-0700, spend all day in court, it's really hard to come back for another 1900-0700 shift. It's even more difficult to do that two days in a row.
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The shift schedule I explained above could be split with five Officers on each shift, along with one Sgt. So you have five and a Sgt on every shift and the payback days cover Sundays. Pretty simple. The only issue would be if your MOU calls for a higher shift minimum than four Officers per shift... Having five on each shift would allow one officer to be off each day, and still have a four shift minimum.
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