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Old 01-13-2021, 12:49 PM
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Having shot both, AR10. And as previously stated, DPMS. You will have more options in parts and furniture.
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I started with an M21. Then a Fulton Titan. Then an FAL. Then a .308 Garand. Then a CETME, then a .... See where I'm going with this? Good luck just sticking with one .308 battle rifle.
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Which and why?

Yes, I know the M1A is featureless by default. Remove the legal considerations from the question above and discuss.
Really just comes down to what do you want to do with it.

Honestly I view my M1A as a fun range rifle, and is excellent for when I only plan to shoot it with iron sights, because IMO the M1 Garand/M1A have some of the best iron sights of any rifle.

However, provided you have spare parts on hand to do maintenance work yourself, I'd argue the AR-10 platform is more versatile; easier to mount optics, easier manual of arms if your already familiar with the AR-15 platform, aftermarket makes it so it's much easier to cater to making a rifle that fits you, especially when many companies now manufacture AR-10's that accept a lot of AR-15 parts (trigger groups and furniture are the most common) and it is most likely going to end up lighter than a comparable M1A.

The biggest drawback to the AR-10 right now is simply there's no single standard for everyone to follow for producing an AR-10 pattern rifle compared to say an AR-15, so once you decide on which one to get you may want to stock up on replacement parts to cover your specific pattern of AR-10.
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Depends alot of M1as were floating around for $1200 or $1300 , beginning of Covid . Paid $1500. For a Ole Corps Weaponry Garand. A absolute pleasure to Shoot.
I got a sweet Socom16 in the black fiberglass stock for $1100 via PPT, and got a good deal on a Loaded stainless walnut for around $1500 IIRC... (maybe $1469?)

BUT I have heard of people getting some crazy Sportsmans deal on the same Loaded Walnut for $1300 before taxes and fees... not that the deal is still around but...
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I got a sweet Socom16 in the black fiberglass stock for $1100 via PPT, and got a good deal on a Loaded stainless walnut for around $1500 IIRC... (maybe $1469?)

BUT I have heard of people getting some crazy Sportsmans deal on the same Loaded Walnut for $1300 before taxes and fees... not that the deal is still around but...
I bought a M1A Loaded off Calguns for $1400
A Socom 16 for $1000 . Want to say a year ago. Lots of people selling M1a
It seemed like ,Specifically in Southern California..
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Every time I look at a .308 AR type or M1A I think for a few minutes, then remember my L1A1A and let them pass on by. Personal preference is towards the M1A as I shot the M14 in basic training at Ft Ord in Trainfire in may/june '65 and liked it. But, time has moved on since then and in may '84 I got a M1 Garand from Federal Ordnance ( long since gone ) and I very much like the Garand and hunted with it for 10 yrs then went to other rifles from time to time. If it comes down to butt strokes to the head, you DO NOT want a plastic, aluminum rifle for that business. Get the one that floats YOUR boat.

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Honestly I view my M1A as a fun range rifle, and is excellent for when I only plan to shoot it with iron sights, because IMO the M1 Garand/M1A have some of the best iron sights of any rifle.
Yup... I have a RDS on the 16" but the Loaded has the match sights.

AR10's have a fixed 5x and a LPVO (1-6) which were easy to mount since all the modern receivers have rails whether they are free-floated or not.
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If it comes down to butt strokes to the head, you DO NOT want a plastic, aluminum rifle for that business.
Probably, but an A2 stock or PRS rifle stock on a 10 pound rifle would not exactly feel pleasant to the dome.
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and so is the M1A
I had to spend a ****ton getting mine to shoot well. Its tight now but it took awhile getting there.
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M1A is accurate for Battle Rifle, too many looking for precision. It’s a Garand with a 20 Round Magazine ( 10 in Kali ).
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M1A is just more cool but for rapid accurate follow up shots AR10 wins. Best answer is get both.
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Probably, but an A2 stock or PRS rifle stock on a 10 pound rifle would not exactly feel pleasant to the dome.
If you're buying a rifle based on how well it performs in melee, you should spend more time learning to shoot.
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Every time I look at a .308 AR type or M1A I think for a few minutes, then remember my L1A1A and let them pass on by. Personal preference is towards the M1A as I shot the M14 in basic training at Ft Ord in Trainfire in may/june '65 and liked it. But, time has moved on since then and in may '84 I got a M1 Garand from Federal Ordnance ( long since gone ) and I very much like the Garand and hunted with it for 10 yrs then went to other rifles from time to time. If it comes down to butt strokes to the head, you DO NOT want a plastic, aluminum rifle for that business. Get the one that floats YOUR boat.

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My PARA though "lightweight" could definitely crack coconuts.

I think my standard barreled FAL's could drive t-posts.
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Which and why?

Yes, I know the M1A is featureless by default.
Remove the legal considerations from the question above and discuss.
M1a if you want to shoot iron sights.
It has the better stock layout for sights.

308 AR if you want to use a scope.
It has the better stock layout for scope mounting.

M1a if you want a steel and walnut rifle "like grandpa had in Vietnam".
308 AR if you want to play tinker toys and change out parts to make it "kustom".

308 AR with direct impingement is more accurate.
M1a has a gas piston that the tactical operators all say you need.
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If you're buying a rifle based on how well it performs in melee, you should spend more time learning to shoot.
Well, that's what bayonets are for.
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There is always the Chassi option too. Dont think anyone mentioned that. I have the Troy Chassi sitting in the Safe. In a free state , I'd be using it for sure.
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Look at the Knight Armaments AR10
A bit pricey. Designed for Spec Forces snipers--highly accurate and reliable.

Much better scoping features than the M1A

I built both M1A from parts, and the AR10.
The AR10 is a tack driver!

M1A was more of an nostalgy trip.
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op, zero reason to buy an m1a over an AR10.



stoner designed the AR10 to shoot 308/7.62.

https://anthonysfirearmwarehouse.com...ne-stoner-m16/
Not even if you got more M14 magazines than you know what to do with? They have virtually the same sights and sight picture. I like that most about both of them.
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Look at the Knight Armaments AR10
A bit pricey. Designed for Spec Forces snipers--highly accurate and reliable.
Because he has to spend $5500 to get into a semi-auto .308 with SPEC OPS CRED? Hahah. Just about any AR10 will be accurate. Even a lowly AERO or $1250 for a LaRue UU complete assembled upper kit, with everything except the stripped lower.

I'd recommend the LaRue, but like everyone said... stick to the same brand for all components if you can... DEFINITELY the upper and lower.

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Pick your poison, the 90 year old design or the 60 year old design. Both have their pros and cons and both are older then dirt.
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The 90 year old design called out to me. I went with the m1A.

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AR10 is fun and can modify but jams frequently when built from home. My M&P10 never jams but is all stock from factory minus compliant stuff.. M1a is more accurate and very few mods but barely jams.
False. The M1A is NOT more accurate. It would be a big mistake to buy and M1A if you have the money to buy a good AR10.

Take a look at the Daniel Defense DD5V3. I would choose this over any other reasonably priced AR10. The KAC is heavy and way too expensive, but they do make an excellent rifle of course.

That said, I have two SCAR 17s, that are very accurate, very light, extremely reliable (never had a malfunction of ANY kind), and soft shooting.

M1A/M14s are CRAP.

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Pick your poison, the 90 year old design or the 60 year old design. Both have their pros and cons and both are older then dirt.
So pick a SCAR 17.
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There is always the Chassi option too. Dont think anyone mentioned that. I have the Troy Chassi sitting in the Safe. In a free state , I'd be using it for sure.
Ah, the lipstick on a pig concept. Very clever, trying to turn a musket into a modern rifle.
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I had to spend a ****ton getting mine to shoot well. Its tight now but it took awhile getting there.
Well, at least M14s are good for building a fire if you get cold.
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Pick your poison, the 90 year old design or the 60 year old design. Both have their pros and cons and both are older then dirt.
This could only make logical sense if there had been ZERO progress in the 30 years between the designs.

Also, the AR has had a LOT development since it was first designed. While development of the M14 platform stopped by comparison.

The logic of choosing a M14 design over a more modern design that has benefited from improvements and lessons learned from the continuous development of the AR-15 eludes me.

I guess emotion and nostalgia must play a role.
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So pick a SCAR 17.
i'd pick a scar 20s.

if you're going with a .308, may as well get full advantage of the capabilities of that cartridge. it isn't like you're likely to need a short .308 for cqb or battlefield mobility unless you are operator af and like to carry 50 lbs of ammo.

if you want one gas gun for everything, the 17s is a good choice.
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Excuse me, but what language was it speaking? Because I don't think I'd be able to understand it.
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I have a garand in .308, a couple M1A models, and an MWS. If I could only grab one of those, the MWS would be it every time.
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I have a garand in .308, a couple M1A models, and an MWS. If I could only grab one of those, the MWS would be it every time.
that would be my choice too, if i didn't get the scar.
interchangeable barrels (like the scar) and military tough.

i wouldn't get a conventional rifle while it is still legal to get something like the lmt or 20s. they might be able to make them hard or impossible to buy, but i doubt they will be able to take them away.
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i'd pick a scar 20s.

if you're going with a .308, may as well get full advantage of the capabilities of that cartridge. it isn't like you're likely to need a short .308 for cqb or battlefield mobility unless you are operator af and like to carry 50 lbs of ammo.

if you want one gas gun for everything, the 17s is a good choice.
I look at it the other way. I want something easy to maneuver because I don't see staying in one place for long, and I don't see carrying it miles or for long periods. It would be for property defense where I want more power than my SCAR 16s, or ARs. The recoil and weight of a SCAR 17 is so controllable that shooting it while moving is a piece of cake. I've had my SCAR 17s for 8 or 9 years.

My property will be less than 20 acres so I won't need to carry much more than first aide, a radio, a little water and ammo and I plan to have cache locations.

If I do need to shoot longer distances, the 17 can do it, but again I don't see myself shooting much more than 4-500 yards with .308. So I really don't need the extra barrel length. I prefer the battle rifle concept with some DMR capability.

I would use a bolt gun for more distance than that. And I plan to go with a medium weight in 6.5 Creedmore if ammo availability returns.

I have plenty of 5.56 rifles, and I have CQB covered, but my two SCAR 17s seem to give me a bit of an advantage in some situations.

I have a metric crap load of 7.62 NATO (and 5.56 for that matter), I have AKs, and ammunition availability is not an issue for the arms I have now.
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good arguments for you and everyone has different needs vs wants.

i was thinking more in line with 800-1000 as a challenge.

ar-15s should be good enough for 95% of the situations for home defense, and if not, you're probably in trouble anyway.

oth, for shooting long range, or even medium range, there is almost nothing for a civilian that is as easy for putting 10 rounds on target very quickly. this rifle is perfect for the jp challenge (putting 3 rounds into a target before you hear the sound of the first hit).

the 17s can hit out to 800 so i am not taking anything away from it as an all around rifle, but being much lighter it isn't as easy to keep on target as the 15lb+ 20s (with scope and bipod).
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And my name is designed to be feature list however it is not designed to have a scope on it and the mounting one can be challenging

Using an EBR chassis negates some of the ergonomically challenges however it will not be a feature list anymore

A.R. 10 is ergonomically superior however you will be dealing with a magazine lock or a featureless grip


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The only feature that hinders shooting is the Fin ( after 10 RD. Mag ) but since I shoot bolt I never wrap my thumb so the only negative is mobility but adding the Fin with the Thumb Rest negates most Fin issues especially with practice. The Flash Hider needed to be replaced anyway and I shoot A2 Stocks.

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