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Old 02-14-2020, 7:28 AM
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Default Mississippi HB753 Insterstate compact for 2A and commerce clause exemption

AN ACT TO AUTHORIZE THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI TO ENTER INTO AN INTERSTATE COMPACT WITH SOUTHERN STATES FOR THE PURPOSE OF OPERATING AS SECOND AMENDMENT SANCTUARY STATES; TO ESTABLISH THE INTERSTATE COMMISSION ON SECOND AMENDMENT SANCTUARY AND PRESCRIBE ITS POWERS AND DUTIES; TO EXEMPT CERTAIN FIREARMS, FIREARM ACCESSORIES AND AMMUNITION IN THIS STATE FROM FEDERAL REGULATION; TO DECLARE CERTAIN FEDERAL STATUTES, REGULATIONS, RULES, AND ORDERS UNCONSTITUTIONAL UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND UNENFORCEABLE IN THIS COMPACT REGION; TO REQUIRE THE ATTORNEYS GENERAL OF COMPACT STATES TO FILE ANY LEGAL ACTION TO PREVENT IMPLEMENTATION OF A FEDERAL STATUTE, REGULATION, RULE OR ORDER THAT VIOLATES THE RIGHTS OF A RESIDENT OF A COMPACT STATE; AND FOR RELATED PURPOSES.

https://legiscan.com/MS/text/HB753/2...8lsvVyY78xDItY
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Old 02-14-2020, 7:46 AM
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:42 AM
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Yeah, Kansas (among others) passed a similar law stating that the state's internal gun stuff that didn't pass through interstate commerce was good to go. Feds felt otherwise, and USSC said "pass" when their conviction was appealed.
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My deep felt 2A sentiments are in agreement with this proposal.

Yet there are contradictory "constitutional" issues at play here.

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TO EXEMPT CERTAIN FIREARMS, FIREARM ACCESSORIES AND AMMUNITION IN THIS STATE FROM FEDERAL REGULATION; TO DECLARE CERTAIN FEDERAL STATUTES, REGULATIONS, RULES, AND ORDERS UNCONSTITUTIONAL UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND UNENFORCEABLE IN THIS COMPACT REGION;
OUR Constitution has built in "checks/balances" of 3 branches of government. It is the PURVIEW of the Courts to decide constitutionality of laws/regulations.

Not the job of any state, or compact of states to PRE-determine what is, and is not, Constitutional.

States cannot simply secede from certain Fed Legislation, because they don't agree with it.
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Nullification by non compliance. LEO at local level must tell the Feds to shove off.
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Old 02-14-2020, 2:22 PM
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That seems to be the plan in the Southern States. A2
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Old 02-14-2020, 4:03 PM
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The abuse of the CC has given the Feds unlimited power. This is clearly a violation of original intent; the CC does no such thing.

https://fee.org/articles/wickard-v-f...limited-power/
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Old 02-14-2020, 5:29 PM
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My deep felt 2A sentiments are in agreement with this proposal.

Yet there are contradictory "constitutional" issues at play here.



OUR Constitution has built in "checks/balances" of 3 branches of government. It is the PURVIEW of the Courts to decide constitutionality of laws/regulations.

Not the job of any state, or compact of states to PRE-determine what is, and is not, Constitutional.

States cannot simply secede from certain Fed Legislation, because they don't agree with it.
You mean like illegal immigrant sanctuary state laws?
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Old 02-14-2020, 5:52 PM
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My deep felt 2A sentiments are in agreement with this proposal.

Yet there are contradictory "constitutional" issues at play here.



OUR Constitution has built in "checks/balances" of 3 branches of government. It is the PURVIEW of the Courts to decide constitutionality of laws/regulations.

Not the job of any state, or compact of states to PRE-determine what is, and is not, Constitutional.

States cannot simply secede from certain Fed Legislation, because they don't agree with it.
The "legalization" of POT around the country begs to differ with your thoughts. Why have those laws not been challenged in court and why do I smell POT all over the place in Sacramento now?
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You mean like illegal immigrant sanctuary state laws?
Exactly what I mean.

We can't CONDEMN defying Fed Law, because it doesn't fit our opinion.

And at same time CONDONE others, for doing same, because it does conform to our opinion.

"Duplicitous Hypocrite" is not a label I want OUR side to wear. Let the LEFTISTS wear that hat as we beat them in the Courts. Now that we are finally getting Constitutional Parity in the Judiciary.

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The "legalization" of POT around the country begs to differ with your thoughts. Why have those laws not been challenged in court and why do I smell POT all over the place in Sacramento now?
Uh, not really. "POT" has NOT BEEN CHALLENGED. Is the crux of that matter. And when/if it is, it will be incumbent on the Courts to decide.

Likely IMO, POT will not be challenged in Fed court. Because of softening national attitudes towards its use.

This "COMPACT" on 2A is a hot button partisan issue. That will, without a doubt, he challenged by the LEFT.

Who here actually believes the antis like Pelosi, Schummer, Schiff, Bloomberg, et al. Are going to do nothing?
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As one who has been made an honorary Mississippian I could not be more proud !
What a great state with lots of great people !
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Has anyone here actually read the entire proposed text?

Does anyone here realize they stated SCOTUS takeaways on United States v. Miller in DC v. Heller incorrectly?

And has anyone here actually read what was going on with the two gentlemen in Kansas?

Just curious...

District of Columbia v. Heller PDF

p. 22-32, 25, 52 and 55-56.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

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Too bad that the great state of VA, the home of Robert E Lee, the commander of its army..would never join such a confederation.

Curious..Where would the Mason Dixon line be today? I'm talking about with the states governments' agreement, if the issue were gun rights instead of slavery.

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Doesn't Montana have a similar 2A stance?
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