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Old 12-06-2020, 2:50 PM
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Default Benelli M2 or M4? Or Beretta 1301?

Need help picking one of them, both are great and i've done a lot of reading but want to hear hands on exp from fellow calguners.
Diff $600, 1lb weight, inertial vs gas system, recoil etc...

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Old 12-06-2020, 3:53 PM
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My primary selling point on selecting the M2 was that a lot of 3 gun competitors use it in competition. It has to be fast and reliable for that competition.
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m4 - FANTASTIC defensive shotgun. While there is decent aftermarket support for it, there are no longer barrels available. So consider if that is important to you. It runs like a champ and will be a bit softer shooting than the m2. You can hang whatever you want on it and shouldn't have to worry about reliability. Some people report some cycling issues with lighter loads. Many report no problems at all (I am one of them). I would not, however, run reduced recoil rounds in it for defensive purposes. To be clear, I've run a bunch through mine on the range and never had an issue. But I prefer to keep full power loads in it for real work. YMMV

m2 - As reliable as the m4 and tons of aftermarket support for it thanks to it being the gun of choice for 3 Gun. Lots of barrel options too. You might encounter reliability issues if you start hanging too much weight on it as it can impact cycling on an inertia gun. Slightly greater recoiling than the m4. If you're looking for one gun that can do it all, this would be the choice. It is second only to the m4 in a defensive role. But there are lots of other good semi auto guns out there too.

You may want to check out the Remington Versa Max as it is essentially the m4 gas system but there are more barrel options for it and it's cheaper. Note that I don't know how things are with Remington's financial situation. But a lot of folks have good things to say about this gun.

Note that Benellis are imported shotguns and, as such, fall under federal 922R rules. Which means they come with limited 5 round magazines and you will have to swap multiple parts if you want to increase the mag size and still keep it 922R legal. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, Freedom Fighter Tactical and Carrier Comp both have white papers up on their websites that you can read up on this. But note that it will cost you $200-$300 to swap the requisite parts depending on which options you go with.
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m4 - FANTASTIC defensive shotgun. While there is decent aftermarket support for it, there are no longer barrels available. So consider if that is important to you. It runs like a champ and will be a bit softer shooting than the m2. You can hang whatever you want on it and shouldn't have to worry about reliability. Some people report some cycling issues with lighter loads. Many report no problems at all (I am one of them). I would not, however, run reduced recoil rounds in it for defensive purposes. To be clear, I've run a bunch through mine on the range and never had an issue. But I prefer to keep full power loads in it for real work. YMMV

m2 - As reliable as the m4 and tons of aftermarket support for it thanks to it being the gun of choice for 3 Gun. Lots of barrel options too. You might encounter reliability issues if you start hanging too much weight on it as it can impact cycling on an inertia gun. Slightly greater recoiling than the m4. If you're looking for one gun that can do it all, this would be the choice. It is second only to the m4 in a defensive role. But there are lots of other good semi auto guns out there too.

You may want to check out the Remington Versa Max as it is essentially the m4 gas system but there are more barrel options for it and it's cheaper. Note that I don't know how things are with Remington's financial situation. But a lot of folks have good things to say about this gun.

Note that Benellis are imported shotguns and, as such, fall under federal 922R rules. Which means they come with limited 5 round magazines and you will have to swap multiple parts if you want to increase the mag size and still keep it 922R legal. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, Freedom Fighter Tactical and Carrier Comp both have white papers up on their websites that you can read up on this. But note that it will cost you $200-$300 to swap the requisite parts depending on which options you go with.
wow thank you very much, sounds like M2 is a better choice for me
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M2 works fine.

The M4 isn't worth the extra money to me.
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I have an M4 but would rather have a Beretta 1301 LTT.

The M2 is recoil operated and weighs less.

The M4 is gas operated but weighs more.

The 1301 is gas operated but light.
I know you said Benelli but this is the correct answer. I have owned both Benelli’s, and your usage will determine which to get of the two. Hunting / clays? M2 with a 26-28 inch barrel minimum. 3gun? M2 with at least a 24 inch barrel. Home defense / range toy? Benelli m4.

But really, get a Beretta 1301 that suits your needs. Either the tactical, Competition or Comp Pro model depending on what you’re going to use it for. Take the savings and buy a Beretta A300 for $600 for a clay shooting gun.

The Beretta 1301 is MUCH lighter, the Benelli m4 is stupid heavy. It’s softer shooting than the M2, and cycles faster than both. Plus, it’s cheaper. But if you’re set on Benelli, let your needs dictate which you get.

Just know that the Beretta 1301 is the new hotness and deservedly so.
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I know you said Benelli but this is the correct answer. I have owned both Benelli’s, and your usage will determine which to get of the two. Hunting / clays? M2 with a 26-28 inch barrel minimum. 3gun? M2 with at least a 24 inch barrel. Home defense / range toy? Benelli m4.

But really, get a Beretta 1301 that suits your needs. Either the tactical, Competition or Comp Pro model depending on what you’re going to use it for. Take the savings and buy a Beretta A300 for $600 for a clay shooting gun.

The Beretta 1301 is MUCH lighter, the Benelli m4 is stupid heavy. It’s softer shooting than the M2, and cycles faster than both. Plus, it’s cheaper. But if you’re set on Benelli, let your needs dictate which you get.

Just know that the Beretta 1301 is the new hotness and deservedly so.
Beretta 1301 sure has a lot of positive feedback, but Beretta 1301 tac is almost the same price as M2.
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As long as it's reliable, the gun doesn't matter that much in 3 gun. It's a matter of who can reload the fastest. If they just left out all the targets in the shotgun sections and you just unloaded and reloaded it, the relative performance would be the same.
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Default Benelli M2 or M4?

M2 for versatility M4 for solely home defense or sentry gun.

M2 can serve as a hunting, competition, defense and can be configured many ways, if you want to shoot sabots the m2 has rifled barrels. Field stocks and tactical stocks, ghost ring sights and bead sights, etc.

M4 is limited on upgrades, mainly used as tactical, sentry gun, or home defense. Limited to 18.5” barrel and no rifle barrel available. Much heavier than m2. Field stocks and tactical stocks, ghost ring rights only. Managed recoil like a boss

Both have various rail systems for red dots. Both chambered for 3” shells. Both have recoil tubes and springs in their stocks.
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Old 12-06-2020, 9:37 PM
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Hi OP, I have an M2 with 26” barrel, field stock, and 10 shell tube. Love it.

In my area (sf Bay Area) I cant think of a place off the top of my head to shoot a shotgun with a pistol grip, and there are barrel length minimums also (24” usually). The config I got allows me to participate in clay sports as well as multigun at all the ranges in the area so I can get a good amount of live fire practice with it. Read the rules where you plan to shoot in your area as that could tip you to go M2 by “default”
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I know you said Benelli but this is the correct answer. I have owned both Benelli’s, and your usage will determine which to get of the two. Hunting / clays? M2 with a 26-28 inch barrel minimum. 3gun? M2 with at least a 24 inch barrel. Home defense / range toy? Benelli m4.

But really, get a Beretta 1301 that suits your needs. Either the tactical, Competition or Comp Pro model depending on what you’re going to use it for. Take the savings and buy a Beretta A300 for $600 for a clay shooting gun.

The Beretta 1301 is MUCH lighter, the Benelli m4 is stupid heavy. It’s softer shooting than the M2, and cycles faster than both. Plus, it’s cheaper. But if you’re set on Benelli, let your needs dictate which you get.

Just know that the Beretta 1301 is the new hotness and deservedly so.
Beretta 1301 Tactical in stock at sportsman for $1118, should i get it before it's gone?
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wow thank you very much, sounds like M2 is a better choice for me
Welcome. And yes, if you want to hunt with it too, bust clays, etc., the m2 is more versatile because of the options for barrels...although I've busted plenty of clays with the m4. But many trap/skeet ranges aren't real fond of pistol grips. It really is a shame Benelli never made a longer barrel for the m4. It seems like they'd sell a ton of them but maybe this is their way to get you to buy a second shotgun or something.
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Compared to what, a fitted gun, a gas operated gun, or a heavier gun, or?

PM me if you want to dump the m2
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Need help picking one of them, both are great and i've done a lot of reading but want to hear hands on exp from fellow calguners.
Diff $600, 1lb weight, inertial vs gas system, recoil etc...
What is the application?
What will you be doing with the gun?
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It shoots anything since it is a pump and semi auto shotgun, For
HD 7 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber.
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What is the barrel length and does it have a field stock? PM me if you decide to sell because I’d like a back up M2
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Then you want it short as the length is more important inside the house than outdoors in competition/hunting/clay-games.

The action won't matter, but get it with an 18"ish barrel.
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If it's for HD, then either option will work with 18.5" barrel length. If you plan to get something for versatility, then the Versamax is a viable option, but between the two Benellis, I would say the M2. I have had a 1301 Comp, a Versamax with 26" barrel, and I still prefer the Benelli models. I currently still own a M2 and M4, and the M4 is used for HD for my wife.
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Benelli M4 is the way to go... I have one for myself, and one for the wife. It's one of the best guns I own, super fun to shoot, and an absolute work horse.
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marketed as “competition” but does not come with extended lifter and opened up loading port.

It’s like they painted it blue and called it good?
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1301 all day every day. That's the reason I'm getting a LTT 1301.
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1. 1301 Tac - I am a Beretta user.
2. Mossberg 590A1 Magpul. My next buy!


IMO, Benelli are just overpriced...


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I got a great deal on an M2.
Me likey,
patterns the size of a basketball at 15 foot with 9 shot buck.
Inertia very smooth and little recoil with low recoil winchester ranger 9 shot.

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1. 1301 Tac - I am a Beretta user.
2. Mossberg 590A1 Magpul. My next buy!


IMO, Benelli are just overpriced...


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how reliable 1301 is since everyone's paying premium for a Benelli for it's reliability and longevity, also holds higher resell value
but we are talking about $1k diff between 1301 and M4
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how reliable 1301 is since everyone's paying premium for a Benelli for it's reliability and longevity, also holds higher resell value
but we are talking about $1k diff between 1301 and M4
You should be comparing the M2 to the 1301, not the M4, since the M2 and 1301 are gas operated, and the M4 is piston. The action is partly the weight difference, and the M4 has a heavier barrel profile.

My time with the 1301 was fine when the gun was stock, but it simply did not fit me well, so I sold it. The FN was a bit slow in terms of action for me. I think the 1301 was more comparable to my M1S90s, not the M2, as the M2 feels more lively and swings easier. The truth is, as long as you are not using super light loads, the Benelli M1, M2, M4, Beretta 1301, FN SLP, and the Rem Versamax would all do well. The longevity is a different story. I have shot my M1S90 and my SBE 2 more than any other of my shotguns with the exception of my trap specific O/U, but that's different. The SBE 2 has seen nothing but 3 and 3.5 inch heavy steel/bismuth shot since it is my hunting gun. I only this year got a SBE 3 to replace it, and it was only because of the camo and ergos. In the 10 years I hunted with my SBE 2, I have changed one set of springs because the OEM springs were getting slightly rusty from so much water exposure.

Benellis hold their value and have a reputation for a reason. That doesn't mean the other guns aren't as good, or possibly even better for some folks depending on fit, but it's hard to beat a Benelli in my opinion.

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The Benellis, Berettas and FN/Winchester semiauto shotguns are all very good.

M2 is inertia and the rest are gas operated.

In reality, you should buy what you can find in stock for sale.

Gas guns are smoother shooting than inertia guns, but cleaning gas guns is a pain unless you let go of your OCD.

Just for a data point, we have hunted a Beretta 390 and Benelli Super Black Eagle 2 (just an M2 with 3.5 inch chamber) for almost 20 years each, shooting thousands of high velocity steel waterfowl loads at 1550-1600 FPS and heavy payload turkey shells.

Neither gun has had a single broken part or malfunction and have been seriously abused, dropped, rained and snowed on, covered in mud, hunted below zero and above 115 degrees.

I would like to buy a new shotgun just because, but can not justify it. There is no wrong choice.

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marketed as “competition” but does not come with extended lifter and opened up loading port.

It’s like they painted it blue and called it good?
Changed sights, changed pistons. Loading is easier than m1, and with the larger capacity no need to ghost load. Kicks way less and cycles fasted than m1. Shotgun sights and irons. Your experiences?
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1301 all day. Absolutely no LOGICAL reason to pay the extra $1000 for the Benelli.

And notice almost every person still recommending the m4 has NOT shot or owned a 1301. Just defending their own bad financial decision. I used to be one of them. Then i picked up a 1301 and was honest with myself.
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1301 Tactical - an incredible weapon. You can trick it out with a tube extension, pistol grip, rails and all the fun stuff. Enjoy!
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You should be comparing the M2 to the 1301, not the M4, since the M2 and 1301 are gas operated, and the M4 is piston. The action is partly the weight difference, and the M4 has a heavier barrel profile.
Wrong! The Benelli M2 is recoil/Inertia-Driven® System shotgun. M4 is piston-driven Auto-Regulating Gas-Operated (A.R.G.O.) system was designed for and approved by the U.S. Marine Corps. BTW...any "piston driven" firearm IS GAS DRIVEN!

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1301 all day. Absolutely no LOGICAL reason to pay the extra $1000 for the Benelli.

And notice almost every person still recommending the m4 has shot or owned a 1301. Just defending their own bad financial decision. I used to be one of them. Then i picked up a 1301 and was honest with myself.
What if it was the only semi auto anything on the shelf?

That’s why I bought it way back when o was selling all the firearms. It’s still my favorite firearm.
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