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Old 05-16-2019, 6:49 AM
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You caught us.

We all put our ghost ballots in for Ilhan Omar, AOC, and Talieb (however you spell her stupid name).

Now we’re all just waiting until we can scream, “Allah Akbar” while we take away all of your rights! MUahahahahha! SocialCommunism!

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You caught us.

We all put our ghost ballots in for Ilhan Omar, AOC, and Talieb (however you spell her stupid name).

Now we’re all just waiting until we can scream, “Allah Akbar” while we take away all of your rights! MUahahahahha! SocialCommunism!

Just my point... the vast majority of LEO's are voting for 2nd amendment, the enforcement of our immigration laws, and public safety in general but somehow there is a huge disconnect between how the rank and file vote and how they let their unions support the weak on crime politicians who have supported and pushed prop47/57, sanctuary state, BLM etc...

You all vote for your union leadership and you all seem to have abdicated your responsibility for how the unions act IN YOUR NAME.

News flash..the campaign money and endorsements from the LEO unions / associations / lobbyists are far more valuable in an election than the individual votes of the membership. How the democrats chase those LEO and Fire / public safety endorsements every election cycle is proof. The liberals know they're not getting rank and file votes...but that's not what is important to them..the money and more importantly the endorsements give them political cover with the mostly unaware voting public for their anti public safety voting records and policy positions.

So back to my original question ..if you all vote one way, why do YOU let your unions /associations vote the other with your money and collective endorsements?
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Wasn't it you that mentioned "discernment skills"? Yeah it was.

You know that reluctance to read rebuttals, that accurately refute your inaccurate claims. Doesn't make them go away. Right.

You're not kidding anyone. You read it, all of it. And you now know more than you did. Before you claimed not reading it.

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“Discernment” skills have nothing to do with “completing” a task, such as reading a loooong drawn out “complaint” (for a lack of better words). You didn’t know that??? Your editorial started to bore me with the very first sentence, so I fired you.

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Wasn't it you that mentioned "discernment skills"? Yeah it was.

You know that reluctance to read rebuttals, that accurately refute your inaccurate claims. Doesn't make them go away. Right.

You're not kidding anyone. You read it, all of it. And you now know more than you did. Before you claimed not reading it.

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“Discernment” skills have nothing to do with “completing” a task, such as reading a loooong drawn out “complaint” (for a lack of better words). You didn’t know that??? Your editorial started to bore me with the very first sentence, so I fired you.

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Looks like you hired him back...
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Looks like you hired him back...
No, he kept coming back to the office, so I just gave him the courtesy in writing as to the reason why he’s not “re-hireable.”
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Just my point... the vast majority of LEO's are voting for 2nd amendment, the enforcement of our immigration laws, and public safety in general but somehow there is a huge disconnect between how the rank and file vote and how they let their unions support the weak on crime politicians who have supported and pushed prop47/57, sanctuary state, BLM etc...

You all vote for your union leadership and you all seem to have abdicated your responsibility for how the unions act IN YOUR NAME.

News flash..the campaign money and endorsements from the LEO unions / associations / lobbyists are far more valuable in an election than the individual votes of the membership. How the democrats chase those LEO and Fire / public safety endorsements every election cycle is proof. The liberals know they're not getting rank and file votes...but that's not what is important to them..the money and more importantly the endorsements give them political cover with the mostly unaware voting public for their anti public safety voting records and policy positions.

So back to my original question ..if you all vote one way, why do YOU let your unions /associations vote the other with your money and collective endorsements?
Why do YOU like to assume so much with so little information?
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LMAO at these people pointing fingers at LE unions when local, state, and federal powers that be (voted in by those same anti-LE finger pointers) are 1000's of times worse and running amok...

You wanna get mad at someone, look in the ****ing mirror, you're the ones who actually cast the VOTES that put all the idiots in charge into office...
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You wanna get mad at someone, look in the ****ing mirror, you're the ones who actually cast the VOTES that put all the idiots in charge into office...
LEO unions and their PAC's are the ones telling everyone to vote for those idiots, endorsing them and donating to them while at the same time all the rank and file claim they dont support the very liberal politicians that their reputations and money are being used to support.

I never voted for them and I dont give them have any of MY money to use to get reelected and endanger public safety once in office. I would vehemently oppose any union I was a member of supporting politicians whose policies make the public and the LE community less safe.


You all really dont care what is being done in your name do you?
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LEO unions and their PAC's are the ones telling everyone to vote for those idiots, endorsing them and donating to them while at the same time all the rank and file claim they dont support the very liberal politicians that their reputations and money are being used to support.

I never voted for them and I dont give them have any of MY money to use to get reelected and endanger public safety once in office. I would vehemently oppose any union I was a member of supporting politicians whose policies make the public and the LE community less safe.


You all really dont care what is being done in your name do you?
Actually you do and so does everyone that lives in this state, every penny you earn and spend in this state feeds the big blue machine.

You live in a big glass state and you are throwing stones.
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LEO unions and their PAC's are the ones telling everyone to vote for those idiots, endorsing them and donating to them while at the same time all the rank and file claim they dont support the very liberal politicians that their reputations and money are being used to support.

I never voted for them and I dont give them have any of MY money to use to get reelected and endanger public safety once in office. I would vehemently oppose any union I was a member of supporting politicians whose policies make the public and the LE community less safe.


You all really dont care what is being done in your name do you?
What cell phone carrier do you use?

Do you have a google account?

Do you have a youtube account?

Do you purchase Nike gear?

Do you shop at Costco?

I could go on and on.

Get off your crappy high horse and stop trying to act like you’re perfect.
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What cell phone carrier do you use?

Do you have a google account?

Do you have a youtube account?

Do you purchase Nike gear?

Do you shop at Costco?

I could go on and on.

Get off your crappy high horse and stop trying to act like you’re perfect.

You are now just grasping at straws. Huge difference between what private corporations I may or may not purchase products from do with money that belongs to THEM and the actions YOUR organizations take giving pro public safety credibility making endorsements IN YOUR NAME and campaign donations WITH YOUR MONEY to politicians who have NO credibility what so ever on public safety and in fact endanger both the public's and officer safety with their actions legislatively.
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You are now just grasping at straws. Huge difference between what private corporations I may or may not purchase products from do with money that belongs to THEM and the actions YOUR organizations take giving pro public safety credibility making endorsements IN YOUR NAME and campaign donations WITH YOUR MONEY to politicians who have NO credibility what so ever on public safety and in fact endanger both the public's and officer safety with their actions legislatively.
Now it's grasping at straws when YOUR actions come under fire. Apparently, YOUR actions and choice of lifestyle is better than any of OURS?! Don't tell US what to do with OUR MONEY and I won't tell YOU what to do with YOURS!

Do YOU work for a UNION, ASSOCIATION, or CORPORATION? Do YOU know WHERE your MONEY goes? Do you SUPPORT everything all of the UNIONS and corporations that you PUT your money into supports? I highly DOUBT that.

Like how I put words in caps too to accentuate my point?

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Its not even my gun rights.. they are pretty much shot (pardon the pun) in this state. I am more concerned about the significant decline in public safety / officer safety now and with the democrats one party hold on the state and their pro criminal legislation and policy initiatives...we are descending into a third world cesspool that will be taking the lives of far too many good people.
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Now it's grasping at straws when YOUR actions come under fire. Apparently, YOUR actions and choice of lifestyle is better than any of OURS?! Don't tell US what to do with OUR MONEY and I won't tell YOU what to do with YOURS!

Do YOU work for a UNION, ASSOCIATION, or CORPORATION? Do YOU know WHERE your MONEY goes? Do you SUPPORT everything all of the UNIONS and corporations that you PUT your money into supports? I highly DOUBT that.

Like how I put words in caps too to accentuate my point?

GTFOH.
Your attempts at analogy's are obtuse at best. I dont belong to a union and once I buy something from a corporation my money becomes their money ( basic capitalism) and its there to do as they please and they do it in THEIR name, not mine. The LEO union / association situation is quite different in its relationship to its members versus a cooperation relationship to its customers. The members theoretically thru elections CONTROL the union and are therefore responsible for what it does in their name. Cheers.
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Your attempts at analogy's are obtuse at best. I dont belong to a union and once I buy something from a corporation my money becomes their money ( basic capitalism) and its there to do as they please and they do it in THEIR name, not mine. The LEO union / association situation is quite different in its relationship to its members versus a cooperation relationship to its customers. The members theoretically thru elections CONTROL the union and are therefore responsible for what it does in their name. Cheers.
Dude you’re not a cop and you just don’t get it. Move along, go away please. This is a forum that’s not supposed to criticize cops nor OUR profession. If you have a problem with LE associations, contact them directly and voice your concerns with them.

If you have issues with cops in general regarding our associations and political affairs, I point out that it’s non of your business. You don’t pay Association dues, nor are you a member of a LE association, let alone are you “sworn personnel” or even retired “sworn”. Therefore, you have no voice in OUR association matters. Your feelings on OUR association business is irrelevant.

I suggest you go troll elsewhere, but not on this forum.
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“Discernment” skills have nothing to do with “completing” a task, such as reading a loooong drawn out “complaint” (for a lack of better words). You didn’t know that??? Your editorial started to bore me with the very first sentence, so I fired you.

I hold no further interests in things that don’t interest me. Move along please.
Tripping over the keyboard while attempting the 'Semantic Two-Step", while misusing words, appears to be a "discernible skill", I never learned.


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The very act of intentionally SELF LIMITING informational intake. Negates any ability to exercise "keen insight" or "good judgement". As does arguing with dictionaries.

As shown by the further ridiculous "complaint" claim. Unless your self inflicted lack of "discernment skills". Skewed your perception to the point you believe factual corrections, of your incorrect assertions is a complaint?

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You really think this is an appropriate post...here in the LEO forum.

Your here for real dialogue right, or just to get your rocks off by telling off those LEO’s that you obviously despise.

Oh I know, you don’t hate LEO’s you have lots of friends who are LEO. With friends like you...
OCEquestrian's hate of LE has a long history on this website. His hate is well documented. Jealousy?
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Being critical does not equate to hate but it takes some intelligence and education to differentiate the two.
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Your anti LE history is well noted on this message board. You can try and justify your continual derogatory and belittling comments against LE however you like.
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It’s passive aggressive shots like this(your posts are full of them)that show the real you and what your all about.
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Its not even my gun rights.. they are pretty much shot (pardon the pun) in this state. I am more concerned about the significant decline in public safety / officer safety now and with the democrats one party hold on the state and their pro criminal legislation and policy initiatives...we are descending into a third world cesspool that will be taking the lives of far too many good people.

Don't care. jus gib me MOAR $$$$! That's all that matters to all LEO's, right? Nevermind the other various sects of public safety that you're not mentioning.

All of your criticism is getting to me, man. I should've signed up to be a hose dragger and eat ice cream all day. "Put da wet stuff on da hawt stuff, baby!"
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Don't care. jus gib me MOAR $$$$! That's all that matters to all LEO's, right? Nevermind the other various sects of public safety that you're not mentioning.

All of your criticism is getting to me, man. I should've signed up to be a hose dragger and eat ice cream all day. "Put da wet stuff on da hawt stuff, baby!"
He doesn't like the retirement system as a whole. It doesn't matter if you're a cop or a hose dragger, he dislikes all in the system. He's allowed to have his opinion but like you, his incessantly hyper critical yap flappin is getting old. He had the same opportunities as any of us to join up...or maybe not!!
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I don't have that tier of pension goodness.

It beats working.

All of your criticism is getting to me, man. I should've signed up to be a hose dragger and eat ice cream all day. "Put da wet stuff on da hawt stuff, baby!"

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No, I just don’t care what you think. You’re not walking in “our” shoes, so your opinions from the outside looking in, doesn’t matter. You can’t talk shop with us when you have no idea how it works for us. You’re not in our shoes.
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No, I just don’t care what you think. You’re not walking in “our” shoes, so your opinions from the outside looking in, doesn’t matter. You can’t talk shop with us when you have no idea how it works for us. You’re not in our shoes.
Ah...the LEO equivalent of the "race card". We are discussing politics here not how dangerous or difficult your job is and I agree it is both.
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Ah...the LEO equivalent of the "race card". We are discussing politics here not how dangerous or difficult your job is and I agree it is both.
Nobody’s discussing politics here, matter of fact there is no discussion about anything here.

Just you on your soap box preaching about things you have very limited knowledge about and no first hand experience.

Your a narcissist that gets his jollies by poking LEO’s with a stick on Internet forums.
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Nobody’s discussing politics here, matter of fact there is no discussion about anything here.

Just you on your soap box preaching about things you have very limited knowledge about and no first hand experience.

Your a narcissist that gets his jollies by poking LEO’s with a stick on Internet forums.
Please enlighten us...... because from the outside looking in I agree with OC
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Yup and the public safety lobby as been helping to serve up our 2nd amendment rights and the public safety of citizens here in California as an entree to the liberal democrats for far too long.
You seem to refuse or you selectively dismiss what has been said many times here that the people who run the associations and unions do not speak for everyone who has to be a part of that system. I'd be willing to bet that at least 75% of the current LE union members vote contrary to what their union heads suggest. In my day we voted exactly opposite of what the association suggested for elected officials and most ballot measures. Why?...because we were able to think for ourselves.

All that said, go back and take a good look at all of the political threads over the last 5 years. You'll see the problem is really many of the people of this message board who are openly professing their support of liberal candidates and ballot measures. Prop 8 is the latest example of the ignorance and stupidity of many here on CGN who profess to be wanting what is right but casting liberal votes at the ballot box.
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Please enlighten us...... because from the outside looking in I agree with OC
You don’t really understand that saying, do you?
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Has there even been a link or statement by OCSD Association saying they support Newsom? I haven’t seen one yet.

Just some random friend saying they did.
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