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Old 04-07-2020, 3:42 PM
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You obviously lost your common sense. When the wave comes down, please visit a mental health practitioner.



I love this mentality. "Yes, but....". Bro there is no BUT. it's either yes or no. Period.



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Old 04-07-2020, 4:06 PM
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Apparently something that you do not have a capacity to grasp.
Then educate us. I posted the State definition of the words isolate and quarantine.
How does this fit into our current situation?

Once again.......

"Isolation refers to the separation of people who have a specific infectious disease from those who are healthy to stop the spread of that illness."

"Quarantine refers to the separation of people who have been exposed to an infectious agent and therefore may become infectious."
(Notice it says "have been exposed", not may have been exposed)
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Old 04-07-2020, 5:10 PM
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These state and county mayors and governors know they're stretching their authority with their "quarantine" of 100% of the population with or without infection...That's why you can still go out and shop..go and take out food... play golf, go to the range, go fishing, biking, walk the dog, etc. etc..

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These state and county mayors and governors know they're stretching their authority with their "quarantine" of 100% of the population with or without infection...That's why you can still go out and shop..go and take out food... play golf, go to the range, go fishing, biking, walk the dog, etc. etc..
The only reason it is not enforced is lack of manpower to enforce it. Does not make it any less legal.
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Then educate us. I posted the State definition of the words isolate and quarantine.
How does this fit into our current situation?
Maybe you are missing the point. It is not exactly what they do to you. It is their legal authority stemming from police power to do any of it and all of the above.

You are ordered to stay home. Stay.
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Maybe you are missing the point. It is not exactly what they do to you. It is their legal authority stemming from police power to do any of it and all of the above.

You are ordered to stay home. Stay.
Otherwise known as you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.
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Old 04-08-2020, 11:16 AM
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When you have to resort to insults then you've lost the argument.
You started it, you got it back in your face. Stop crying.
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Old 04-08-2020, 11:23 AM
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These state and county mayors and governors know they're stretching their authority with their "quarantine" of 100% of the population with or without infection...
That's right. Newsom, for example, is a smart fella. He issued an order, but never publicly insisted on enforcing it. He let other hotheads (Riverside Co Sheriff is a good example) to take the lead and expose themselves to the public unrest. I really wish he was on our side. He's clever.
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That's why you can still go out and shop..go and take out food... play golf, go to the range, go fishing, biking, walk the dog, etc. etc..
I am positively sure, any citation issued will be nullified in the court. Then again, I personally prefer to stay home, but it's my personal choice. Should I change my mind, no unlawful order will stop me

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The only reason it is not enforced is lack of manpower to enforce it. Does not make it any less legal.
Seriously? With the reduced number of people and cars in the streets, what makes you think cops don't have a capacity enforce it? I'll tell ya, son. The orders are unlawful, and the Sheriffs and PD Chiefs are well aware of that.
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Maybe you are missing the point. It is not exactly what they do to you. It is their legal authority stemming from police power to do any of it and all of the above.

You are ordered to stay home. Stay.
The police power still has a limited application by the law. No police is above the law. They must act in the full compliance with all the laws.
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Seriously? With the reduced number of people and cars in the streets, what makes you think cops don't have a capacity enforce it? I'll tell ya, son. The orders are unlawful, and the Sheriffs and PD Chiefs are well aware of that.
He is just trolling. According to him, police powers come out of thin air instead of statute.
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He is just trolling. According to him, police powers come out of thin air instead of statute.
Yeah, the lack of a rational argument strongly suggest troll.
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read "The Law" by Frederic Bastiat, details how governments use "laws" to undermine and trample Natural Laws which are recognized by the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. Stay at home orders are Unconstitutional! Period! Any "laws" made by man restricting the Natural Laws are to be null and void. Civil disobedience is a proper check and balance at this time! I will NOT comply! Now time for the Statists to chime in.
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