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Old 12-16-2023, 12:07 AM
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20 grams?!? Is the trigger protected from a stiff breeze to prevent an ND?? Haha!! Wow that?s light.
Maybe it's 100gms but I really think it's lighter than that.
I have a gram scale for checking light triggers.
I'll have to dig it out.

Either way, it's the lightest trigger I have in anything I own.

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Maybe it's 100gms but I really think it's lighter than that.
I have a gram scale for checking light triggers.
I'll have to dig it out.

Either way, it's the lightest trigger I have in anything I own.

Specs are here:
https://www.carlwalther.com/osp.htm
Nice!! Very cool pistol.

ETA: I was going to say ‘thanks for the link’ but then see they made them in left hand? I didn’t know that.

Now to hunt for a left hand version, haha!!
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I thought the GSP Expert only a year old was the current version but it's been replaced by the GSP500 and there's a whole line of new Walther CSP 22 target pistols. The list keeps growing.

https://carl-walther.com/sport/products/targetpistols


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Old 12-16-2023, 9:53 AM
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Old school MkII target, MkII government model, and the new kid MkIV

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Nice!! Very cool pistol.

ETA: I was going to say ?thanks for the link? but then see they made them in left hand? I didn?t know that.

Now to hunt for a left hand version, haha!!
You are lucky.
Old left-hand olympic pistols sell for cheap compared to right-hand models.

I have a left-hand smith 41 Olympic type grip that you can have if you want.
I bought the model 41 for cheap because it was left handed and I dumped the lefty olympic grip for factory ambi-grips.

If you are looking for classic Walthers, OSP's are 22 Short while GSP's are 22LR.
The OSP's sell much cheaper than GSP's because of people not wanting a 22 short, but 22 short and 22LR match ammo actually run at the same velocities and 22 short match ammo is similarly priced to 22LR match ammo.
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You are lucky.
Old left-hand olympic pistols sell for cheap compared to right-hand models.

I have a left-hand smith 41 Olympic type grip that you can have if you want.
I bought the model 41 for cheap because it was left handed and I dumped the lefty olympic grip for factory ambi-grips.

If you are looking for classic Walthers, OSP's are 22 Short while GSP's are 22LR.
The OSP's sell much cheaper than GSP's because of people not wanting a 22 short, but 22 short and 22LR match ammo actually run at the same velocities and 22 short match ammo is similarly priced to 22LR match ammo.
Thanks for the offer!! But, I prefer my pistols to be ambi so other people can shoot them when we?re at the range. I don?t even switch the mag releases. Same reason I don?t do LH rifles.

But those Walthers are one or the other, haha!! Who knows, maybe I can have some custom ambi grips made.

Current pricing on the OSP isn?t bad at all, even on RH.

I?ve got tons of .22 short and collect .22 short chambered guns. The OSP is right up my alley, haha!!
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But those Walthers are one or the other, haha!! Who knows, maybe I can have some custom ambi grips made.
Due to the way they are meant to be held, I don't think it's possible.
Your hand HAS to wrap around the grips and the grips attach to the frame in such a way that an ambi grip is not possible because there would be nothing to wrap around if you removed both sides of the grip.
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Due to the way they are meant to be held, I don't think it's possible.
Your hand HAS to wrap around the grips and the grips attach to the frame in such a way that an ambi grip is not possible because there would be nothing to wrap around if you removed both sides of the grip.
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Before moving out of CA, I had several MK-IIIs, including a Competition. They were great, I modded them to get rid of the mag disconnects and the LCI, along with a new Volquartsen trigger on the Comp. I sold them before moving, anticipating a MKIV model. I eventually got a MKIV Lite and it is a blast, a lot of fun. Got rid of the mag disconnect and replaced the trigger on the Lite as well. It came with a threaded barrel and it is a popular gun to shoot with my friends when it has a can (Dead Air Mask). I posted this in another thread awhile back.



Field stripping the MKIV is eons easier and less stressful than the MK-III, just as easy as a Glock. I don't miss my MK-IIIs one bit. Get a MKIV.
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Wish we could get the Lite here in Commifornia but apparently that gun is off the table because of the threaded barrel.
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I currently have a Mk4 target and previously had a Mk2 6 7/8" tapered barrel target and Mk3 bull barrel target. I never had a problem stripping a Mk1 or Mk2 (I never stripped my Mk3) but Dean Wilkinson told me once to not strip my Mk2 until it wasn't functioning reliably, which never happened with any of these pistols so I stopped doing so. The frame to receiver fit had gotten loose on the Mk2 and he tightened it up for me.

I like the Mk4 target, the best shooting of the 3 Ruger targets I owned.

I also owned a couple Mk1s and a 6" Mk2.
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Wish we could get the Lite here in Commifornia but apparently that gun is off the table because of the threaded barrel.
There is ONE MkIV Lite version without a threaded barrel: model number 43921. The only Lite model with a remote chance of making it to Roster

https://ruger.com/products/markIV224...ets/43921.html
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Wish we could get the Lite here in Commifornia but apparently that gun is off the table because of the threaded barrel.
Given a higher budget, almost anything is available off roster if you keep a lookout.
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There is ONE MkIV Lite version without a threaded barrel: model number 43921. The only Lite model with a remote chance of making it to Roster

https://ruger.com/products/markIV224...ets/43921.html
Nice! That's a great looking pistol, I would take it in a heartbeat Ruger. If you're listening, get this one on the roster!

Thanks for the heads up Zennderfall!
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Given a higher budget, almost anything is available off roster if you keep a lookout.
Right, but because off the threaded barrel, not too many come up for sale here, even as an off roster, it's still illegal unless you pin and weld or trade out the barrel? The one above that Senderfall posted though could be made California legal to sell here.
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Right, but because off the threaded barrel, not too many come up for sale here, even as an off roster, it's still illegal unless you pin and weld or trade out the barrel?
I perm attach the factory thread protectors on all manner of those threaded barrels be they Pac-lites, Rugers or Volquartsen for FFL's who bring them over to me to make them legal before the DROS is completed.

You just need to find a buyer that will disassemble the upper from the lower before they ship it so that it does not arrive at the FFL as a CA assault weapon.
A disassembled pistol with a threaded barrel is not an assault weapon.
You can even DROS it disassembled and then perm attach the thread protector or a brake before you assemble it into a CA compliant off-roster pistol.
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I recently (June) acquired the new MK4. A distinct advantage is the easier procedure for getting it back together after cleaning. That is about it. From the factory, the trigger as compared to my other earlier examples is a mixture of creepy-meets-crap, with an offending magazine disconnect thrown on top for appeasement to lawyers and politicians. The pistol has been accurate, but is limited by the crappy trigger. It has proven reliable.

Good news is that a very good trigger is available from Apex:
https://www.apextactical.com/action-...or-ruger-mk-iv

I?m about to install this on mine. The video should be watched, as it takes a little experience working with small tools.

EDIT: Apex is offering 15% off through 14 December with code APEXMAS23. Shipping was free as well, NO Kalifornia sales tax either.
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After installing the Apex trigger, I am very pleased with the outcome. I have run about 500 rounds of various .22LR loads through it over three range trips, and it works as advertised. Notice that there is an over-travel adjustment screw. Pull weight is under three pounds, and for me that is plenty light enough for a .22LR hunting pistol carrier on a OWB holster. You can order the kit with either a black colored unit (as shown) or red as well. Lastly, the magazine disconnect is replaced with a machined washer, and makes re-assembly easier. No more Kalifornia interference in that regard. If you purchase one of these, watch the video first. Actually doing the job is not difficult, but you must have a bit of dexterity. I let my son do this, as his young eyes are better than mine.
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Nice! That's a great looking pistol, I would take it in a heartbeat Ruger. If you're listening, get this one on the roster!

Thanks for the heads up Zennderfall!
Sure thing! Ruger really doesn't have to do anything other than separate the batches, and serial # the CA versions differently to submit this one. The Hunter (and this wood-gripped Lite) are two I really want Ruger to push through. I know they'll sell a ton. Perhaps they're waiting for the blued target model to slow down in sales before pushing these through.
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I perm attach the factory thread protectors on all manner of those threaded barrels be they Pac-lites, Rugers or Volquartsen for FFL's who bring them over to me to make them legal before the DROS is completed.

You just need to find a buyer that will disassemble the upper from the lower before they ship it so that it does not arrive at the FFL as a CA assault weapon.
A disassembled pistol with a threaded barrel is not an assault weapon.
You can even DROS it disassembled and then perm attach the thread protector or a brake before you assemble it into a CA compliant off-roster pistol.

Good to know!
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The Mark II is the best of them IMHO, and a majestic arms speed strip kit eliminates the need to remove the mainspring housing. Boringly accurate.

The MK IV is a nice plinker too, not a fan of any models with the LCI.
Agree, mark ii's are almost boringly accurate.
Slab side Volquartzen with red dot, and a 10" here.
Personally, I'd recommend a Mark ii everyday.
No experience with the IV, but with these plinkers I have, I'm in no hurry.
Also, S&W 617 is fantastic, but that's another thread
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