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Old 11-16-2018, 6:51 PM
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No it's not simple for everyone. People have jobs, property, families, and many other issues that make it not easy to pick up and move. For example if someone has children in school, what's he going to say, "sorry children, I know you like your school and don't want to move, but I want to exercise my RKBA so we're moving!" That doesn't work. And many people put those jobs, property, and family issues ahead of getting a CCW in terms of importance. Many things in life are more important than CCWs.
I would agree with that sentiment were the issue that of leaving California.
But this is about LA County.
EVERY county surrounding LA is light to dark green.
I live in SBDO and commute over 40 miles each way into LACO for work.
I could shorten my commute by moving to Ventura county.
If I worked in the Long Beach area instead of the SFV, I could move to OC.

Ya, a move is not free, and is always a stressful situation. As far as the schools... anyone with kids in an LA public school would do well to move them to a different county. The main thing anchoring people to a location is job and local family. SB/OC/Ventura are not so far that this is an insurmountable issue. It's not like living in AZ and having to drive to Palm Springs for work.... although if I had a job with the City of Blythe, you bet your butt I'd live in Quartzsite.

But under the best case, with the politics in LA, we are never going to see LA to "light green" on the map.
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Old 11-17-2018, 5:36 PM
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How nice it is to have supposed 2A supporting citizens of the United States of America. Tell me I should leave my family home, that I built with the help of my deceased father.

At damn near 70 yrs old. It's a bit late to learn how to run and hide from the leftists that are ruining my once great state.

Taking advice from those that lack the intestinal fortitude to stay and fight. Not real high on my list of TTD.

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To old to run, not yet to old to fight.
Recent elections have proven that there is no war left to fight
The Socialist Left has won this state. "Blue" counties will not improve, and as "red" counties flip "blue", they too will change as they become overrun by the tax non-payers.
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History has been made...if AV can unseat a current Sheriff....then Bob Lindsey will have a chance next time around
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History has been made...if AV can unseat a current Sheriff....then Bob Lindsey will have a chance next time around


Not really. And history has been made in the past, it’s just been a while since it’s happened. It’s not surprising that it happened given the politics of the day. It actually sets a new precedent. The sheriff is now more diversely connected to his county.


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History has been made...if AV can unseat a current Sheriff....then Bob Lindsey will have a chance next time around
Only if he pulls a Kevin Leon and runs as "Roberto Del Lindsey"
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Recent elections have proven that there is no war left to fight
The Socialist Left has won this state. "Blue" counties will not improve, and as "red" counties flip "blue", they too will change as they become overrun by the tax non-payers.
The great Commyfornia Ballot War is lost. But battles still rage in the Courts. That is where my hopes lie.

I hope to live long enough to hear SCOTUS tell Reggie Sawyer Jones.

YOU'RE WRONG A-HOLE! THE US CONSTITUTION DOES APPLY IN CALIFORNIA!

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The great Commyfornia Ballot War is lost. But battles still rage in the Courts. That is where my hopes lie.

I hope to live long enough to hear SCOTUS tell Reggie Sawyer Jones.

YOU'RE WRONG A-HOLE! THE US CONSTITUTION DOES APPLY IN CALIFORNIA!
By the time we win back our 2A through the courts, we will have lost everything else that makes for pleasant living in California affordable for working people.
The middle class will be gone, it will be like Mexico and countries south of there.
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AV's lead widens. I don't see any way that JMcD can say he's still in competition. He should concede.
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AV's lead widens. I don't see any way that JMcD can say he's still in competition. He should concede.


He said on KFI last night that he will wait till all the ballots are counted. Makes sense. The still have quite a bit to count.


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Old 11-21-2018, 7:33 PM
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He said on KFI last night that he will wait till all the ballots are counted. Makes sense. The still have quite a bit to count.
Yep... more than double the number of outstanding ballots than the difference.
It could go either way, though unlikely for the trend to reverse.
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Anyone know what the new LA County Sheriff's stance is on issuing CCWs?
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Old 11-26-2018, 8:38 PM
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Anyone know what the new LA County Sheriff's stance is on issuing CCWs?
This has been discussed previously in this thread, since the runoff election. IIRC, LA Co will probably going "light red", "yellow" is unlikely, but you never know.

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Sheriff Jim McDonnell has conceded in his re-election bid after new numbers were issued Monday that indicated an insurmountable gap between him and challenger Lt. Alex Villanueva.

McDonnell called Villanueva to concede the race, Eyewitness News has learned.

With 100,000 provisional ballots left to count, Villanueva has a lead of about 126,000 votes in the count issued Monday, putting him with 52.6 percent of the vote.

The stunning result marks the first time in more than a century that an incumbent Los Angeles County sheriff has lost a re-election bid.
More at: https://abc7.com/politics/la-county-...ction/4768934/
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Also LA Times article describes AV as "a little-known lieutenant". Yup. Incumbents never lose, he was outspent 8 to 1, but... with a vowel at the end of your name, and a promise not to deport criminals, you can win for sheriff of the largest law enforcement agency of California!

What it means for CCW: He mumbled something about issuing more, but I expect things to be status quo, and will be pleasantly surprised if that's not the case.
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If any LA Co folk are thinking about applying after AV takes office, I STRONGLY urge you to review all the material I posted in my CoCoCo advice thread:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1482924

I keep getting highly positive reviews of it from people who know what they're talking about, even non-CoCoCo people. While some of it may not apply to LASO under AV, I doubt whether any of it will hurt your chances and would bet that a LOT of it will help.

Wish you LA Co folks the best!
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LA Times: Numerous top L.A. County sheriff's officials will be fired or relieved of duty once Alex Villanueva is sworn in; new staff named

No idea what impact, if any, this will have on CCW.
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LA Times: Numerous top L.A. County sheriff's officials will be fired or relieved of duty once Alex Villanueva is sworn in; new staff named

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Numerous Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department officials, including high-ranking executives at the level of chief and above, will be removed from their jobs once Sheriff-elect Alex Villanueva is sworn in Monday, his spokesman said.

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Lin said she viewed an email from a member of Villanueva’s transition team to a Sheriff’s Department official that contained a long list of names of people whose services would no longer be needed as of Monday.

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Villanueva will be sworn in Monday at East Los Angeles College.
From: https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...128-story.html



I thought new sheriffs take office in January. If he's taking office and cleaning house on Monday, I'd assume he takes over issuing/signing CCWs on Monday too and implements his new GC policy (and whatever other changes, on Monday as well.

If I were you LA Co folk, I'd watch to see if AV really gets sworn in on Monday (Dec 3rd). If he does, I'd regularly check the SO's website at least once a week to see if/when they revised/edit/update any and all CCW info, esp re. Good Cause.

ETA: I was going to say maybe the swearing in will be Monday, but he won't actually take office, the reigns of power, until January. That makes sense until you remember he's already people they'll lose their jobs come Monday.

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Old 11-28-2018, 10:42 PM
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What?! An LA sheriff issuing permits? No way.
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I believe ranks above commander are at the sheriff's will. His choice to hire & fire, no civil service protections.
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I believe ranks above commander are at the sheriff's will. His choice to hire & fire, no civil service protections.


Completely true. And although California is an at will state,, he is still subject to suit for discrimination, favoritism, etc...

Not sure if they would win. Maybe they will just leave and retire. Interesting to see what happens


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Old 11-29-2018, 3:42 PM
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I believe ranks above commander are at the sheriff's will. His choice to hire & fire, no civil service protections.
But they do have PPOA protection. And he is not immune from Civil Law Suits.

If he starts issuing CCWs he will become the lesser of evils. I don't foresee him changing policy on CCW.


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