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CA FFL Look up?
I know that I can look up FFL's on a Federal level.
Is there a way to look up whether said FFL is set up to do CA transfers? |
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OTOH, if the Feds show an active FFL with a business location in CA, pretty likely that FFL is 'on the list'.
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A FFL can be an exempt CA FFL, such as a gunsmith, which means that they can't do transfers. There is no way to tell by the FFL list. The bottom line is that unless the FFL is listed somewhere as doing transfers, most likely they don't, so look at the FFL database will likely be a waste of time.
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I was trying to figure out if the dealer can do transfers and doesn't want to because he works out of the house or if he really can't do transfers. I guess the world will never know. |
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If the person says they don't want to do a transfer, nothing else really matters.
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But, if he doesn't WANT to do them then I'm not going to buy anything from a dealer not willing to sell to fellow Californians. |
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I looked at the ATF list of FFL's in CA and based on the GunBroker user name and the location I found an FFL with a matching description. He's on 01 and his license expires in 2021. That's why I was wondering if some dealers CAN'T do transfers. I probably won't bid on this gun. Based on what you are saying it sounds like he's doing things that he shouldn't be. Too bad he's offering up something I've been wanting for a long time. It's not in pristine condition and that's how I like my old guns. |
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It's not like he's hiding anything if he's home based because he can be looked up on the fed level. Another way you can try to decipher is search some of the big FFL databases online like https://www.budsgunshop.com/ffl.php -- if you see them listed there that means they have accepted a firearm TO transfer at some point.
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If it's from his "personal" inventory then there's no reason not to do a PPT. Sent from my Nokia 7.1 using Tapatalk |
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If he's selling stuff from his personal inventory, he's not using his FFL to sell, and still cannot do the DROS if he is a gunsmith (for example). Likewise, I see many accounts on gunbrokers NOT listed as FFLs (they were the person's personal account) that later end up being FFLs. An exmpt FFL cannot sell from FFL inventory. I as an FFL can definitely sell from my personal collection with NO impact to my FFL. It comes down to documentation and in the case of CA frequency.
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Some people choose to violate the law by not collecting sales tax in order to make more sales, so it isn't always a good idea to assume that they are following the law. Quote:
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The bottom line is that it could be a lot of different things and it is impossible to know whether all the laws are being followed or not since we don't have all the information.
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This guy has refused to do a PPT. Making it seem like it's not a personal gun but a business gun. And the fact that he won't respond to any more questions from me also makes me think that this is a business gun and that he knows that he doesn't want to answer questions about holding an FFL. |
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Why would I drive all the way out there when Ryenex in Chino Hills will do it for $25?
But in all seriousness, the part that I don't like is the lack of being upfront with why he's doing what he's doing. The other part is the transfer fee. If he would do the transfer(if he could) then it would only cost $25. If it was in his personal collection then there's no reason not to do a PPT which would only cost $35. He says that it has to be shipped = extra cost. Shipping it to my LGS means not a PPT = extra cost($25 @ Ryenex) I would rather not have to pay all of these extra fees for no reason. |
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It would be interesting to see how he transferred it to the other dealer, would it be claimed to come from him personally or would it be from his business. His bound book would explain things, but that would take the BATF.
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Could be that the seller on GB just doesn't feel like dealing with the PPT process. Maybe for him its just easier to ship to an FFL rather than driving to meet up someplace and deal with that process. Or, maybe he has already PPT'd quite a few this year and doesn't want to flirt with the line of doing too many PPT transactions.
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Would you prefer to ship something or just drive it there and do a PPT?
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Personally, unless the buyer was coming here to do the PPT, I probably would NOT want to go elsewhere to do it, and would just ship the darn thing. I cant imagine standing around a Turners or Bass Pro or whatever for 2 hours while we wait to do a damn PPT that I can do in 15 minutes. I've sold 2 or 3 personal guns here on calguns and always say I'll do the PPT here and waive the $10 extra cost if we do it here. I've also met a buyer at a cousin store of ours and basically did the PPT myself there too. I would hate to do the whole waiting bit.
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