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If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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I have many revolvers and they all have stock triggers except the one I keep for HD. That's one of the reasons I chose it for that purpose. Years ago my former brother-in-law worked on it and after a little filing and a lot of polishing it has an extremely smooth DA trigger pull...
Question for you if I may: Let's say you are involved in a shooting, especially one where the suspect is killed or expected to die. Local LE temporarily takes your gun as part of their investigation and has their firearm expert examine the gun. The expert will advise the investigators of your trigger modifications. In turn, they contact you and inquire as to why you made the modifications to the trigger. What are you going to tell them? Thanks
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Ruger Charger in 9mm and no need to rack the slide just pull the bolt back.
+ Suppressor and 30 round magazine will do the trick, lights and laser optional.

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That's what I was going to say, except with a brace and a dot. If I were in kali, the same thing, except a rifle. Big cocking handle, so if you're too weak even for that, just shove the cocking handle against a wall corner.

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Question for you if I may: Let's say you are involved in a shooting, especially one where the suspect is killed or expected to die. Local LE temporarily takes your gun as part of their investigation and has their firearm expert examine the gun. The expert will advise the investigators of your trigger modifications. In turn, they contact you and inquire as to why you made the modifications to the trigger. What are you going to tell them? Thanks
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Probably a striker fire 9mm, with one of those little grippers for the end of the slide since some slides can be pretty stout
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I'd probably opt for a classic 1911 but in a smaller caliber, I'm not that old yet lol
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If I was old, and too weak to rack a slide, I'm guessing that a double action revolver trigger wouldn't be easy to pull either.
So, my "go to" (for a pistol) would probably be something with a tip up barrel, easy to cock, and low recoil.
Like a Beretta Bobcat.

As pocket semi auto pistols go, it's about as easy to handle as it gets.
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With arthritis and age-related weakness setting in I'd recommend looking towards bigger, heavier guns that will make recoil easier to control, preferably with a light, single-action trigger.

Think 1911 government.
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That's what I was going to say, except with a brace and a dot. If I were in kali, the same thing, except a rifle. Big cocking handle, so if you're too weak even for that, just shove the cocking handle against a wall corner.

Given your "Not in Cali" your just steps away from having one. Jez! Lucky you!
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With arthritis and age-related weakness setting in I'd recommend looking towards bigger, heavier guns that will make recoil easier to control, preferably with a light, single-action trigger.

Think 1911 government.
How about a lever action ?

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I recently took a bad fall and broke my arm and injured my back. It's been months and I am still healing. One of the things I realized is that other than a handgun, I would have been completely unable to shoot. Yes, the handgun in 9mm would have been felt in my back. But at least I could lift it. It has been almost 3 months and I still cannot support an AR or shotgun with my left arm/hand. I also image the recoil from a shotgun would be felt all the way down my spine.

In a couple months this will all be behind me. But I imagine this experience was pretty similar to what my grandfather felt like from 80+. Hunched over, finding it hard to walk due to his back and bad shoulders. Getting old sucks. But it sure beats the alternative.
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Getting old sucks. But it sure beats the alternative.
This is so true and the older one gets, the more you realize it. ( I really get annoyed with comments like...'well he/she is, gonna die anyway.') I'm not finished yet, thank you very much!

I hope your back and arm get better soon, but don't push it, healing and building back strength is a process. I wish you the best Sir.

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How about a lever action ?

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I actually have a lever action 12 gauge, and it came with a birds head grip in addition to the standard stock. It takes a surprising amount of strength in the off hand to work a levergun without a stock for leverage.

Sure looks cool though.
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22lr RUGER LCRX 3" 8 SHOT
  • LIGHT WEIGHT i THINK 17 OZ....
  • FAST HANDLING
  • REAL SIGHTS AND SIGHT RADIUS IS GOOD YOU CAN HAVE NIGHT SIGHTS OR HIGH VIZ SIGHTS PUT ON FOR VISION ISSUES.
  • COMFORTABLE GRIP THAT IS EASY TO HOLD ON TO AND TAKES THE SHOCK OUT OF THE GUN WHEN IT FIRES.
  • SMOOTH ACTION SMOOTH TRIGGER ... ALTHOUGH A LITTLE HARDER THAN THE 38 SPL. MODEL TO PULL DUE TO 22lr NEEDS A STOUTER HAMMER SPRING FOR RELIABILITY
  • 8 SHOTS. THEY EVEN MAKE RELOADERS FOR IT...
I HAD A HAND ISSUE AND PURCHASED ONE OF THESE AND IT WAS FOR A TIME THE ONLY GUN I COULD HOLD AND SHOOT
I WOULD USE 22LR STINGER AMMO REALLY RELIABLE IGNITION.
THEY MAKE IT IN OTHER CALIBERS TOO.... 22 MAG BUT ONLY 6 SHOTS... I BELIEVE... 38 ETC....

  • NO MAGS,
  • NO WEAK HANDING ISSUES WITH FUNCTION
  • NO RACKING THE SLIDE TO LOAD OR OVERCOME A FTF OR FTE.
  • SIMPLE POINT PULL AND KEEP ON TIL IT'S EMPTY.


ONCE THE FIRST BOOM GOES OFF THE CRIMINAL WILL HOPEFULLY BE RUNNING AWAY.

REGARDLESS BEST TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY
OH A CAN OF BEAR SPRAY AND A ROOFING HAMMER/HATCHET ARE LIGHT WEIGHT AND SWING QUICKLY... OR A NICE BALL PEEN HAMMER.... A FAVORITE .... THAT COULD WORK TOO




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How old is old? My dad is 80 and shoots a Glock 17 with Ameriglo Agent night sights pretty well. His ability limitation is just lack of practice, not hand strength or eyesight (although he wears corrective lenses). He is still going to the gym regularly though so he may not be who you have in mind.
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If I was old, and too weak to rack a slide, I'm guessing that a double action revolver trigger wouldn't be easy to pull either.
So, my "go to" (for a pistol) would probably be something with a tip up barrel, easy to cock, and low recoil.
Like a Beretta Bobcat.

As pocket semi auto pistols go, it's about as easy to handle as it gets.

I agree with this also if pulling the trigger on a DAO revolver like i mentioned in my prior post is too much the tip up barrel Bobcat would work and the 32 recoil is fairly minimal.
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I'll be armed with a 12 ga shotgun of one sort or the other. Probably semiauto with +-10 00 Buck. Who wants to be first thru my door?
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I think the age at which we need to be considering how easy a gun is to shoot will vary with individuals. Some people are in their 50's and seeing changes. I just turned 70 and other than a floater in my right eye, I am just as strong as I used to be. Racking a shotgun or pistol or even my AR is not a problem. Perhaps someday it will, but not now..
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I have a limited number of handguns that I'm planning on using as I advance in age. They are (in no particular order):

Beretta 86 .380 with tip-up barrel (Home Defense)

Sig P238 .380 (easy to rack slide and low recoil)

S&W 30-1 .32S&W long revolver. Will get a trigger job and low recoil. Load it with Buffalo Bore Hardcast or wadcutters.

Kel-tec P-32 in .32 ACP (low recoil and light for carry)

When I can no longer operate any of those effectively; it will be time for a fifth of Jack and a large dose of self -administered morphine to exit stage left gracefully.

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This is so true and the older one gets, the more you realize it. ( I really get annoyed with comments like...'well he/she is, gonna die anyway.') I'm not finished yet, thank you very much!

I hope your back and arm get better soon, but don't push it, healing and building back strength is a process. I wish you the best Sir.

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If you can sit all the way down in a bath tub and get out by yourself, walk without a walker or chair... you should be fine to use a normal gun like a Glock even if you have to adapt a bit. OLD MAN strength applies to grip strength and arms for sure. Be an old gorilla.
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Never shot a 5.7 how is the recoil?
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OK I'd like to inject some of my thoughts into this in depth conversation.

My first question is "Can you actually hit anything with your pistol?"
If you can't hit a man sized target at 7 yards "21 feet" every single time during the day, then how do you expect to hit one in the Dark when he is moving?"

Most people can't shoot a Pistol as well as they can shoot a Rifle or Shotgun.

I have many guns and can shoot most of them pretty well. I have a Glock 21 SF with a light/laser on it in my headboard. But I also have a Mossberg 500 sitting right next to the bed that is "Cruiser Ready" with 11 rounds on board, and has a light too. I'd be grabbing it before the Glock everytime, or if I was dressed probably both with extra mags and side saddles.IE: Now we are going to WAR !!!.

On my property a 50 yard shot would be the exception, most would be under 25 yards so a shotgun is a good choice..

I have a DA Revolver that shoots .44 Specials and it would certainly stop anything that got hit by a 250 gr slug, not as good with it but still Competent.

I have a PCC .40 S&W Carbine that uses Glock mags from my G23 or G35.
Mini 14, AR SU16 and various other rifles that could be used if I could get to them. I wouldn't feel under gunned with any of them including my 10/22!

BUT!

The Shotgun is my first choice, Because it will do the most damage with ANY hit on meat. A Center Mass hit with 00 buckshot is an absolute fight ender, unless they are wearing Body armor, and if they are a shot in the crotch or blowing a leg off or an arm or their head will stop their forward motion permanently! Period!

If they are unlucky enough to receive a slug, that will stop things permanently as well.

I have been trained alot with all these weapons and that is why I pick the shotgun first,,, BUT,,, you really need to be trained on as many firearms systems as you can, because you never know what you are going to have to fight with. Being competent with many guns is IMHO better than being really good with only one!

I have a Makarov in the end table next to my Easy Chair. Not my first choice but certainly better than nothing. In my shop I have a CZ82 (9x18 Makarov) that is quickly accessible and once again not my first choice but easy to get into action quickly and both these guns have 3 extra mags with them.

So that's my story.

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OK I'd like to inject some of my thoughts into this in depth conversation.

My first question is "Can you actually hit anything with your pistol?"
If you can't hit a man sized target at 7 yards "21 feet" every single time during the day, then how do you expect to hit one in the Dark when he is moving?"

Most people can't shoot a Pistol as well as they can shoot a Rifle or Shotgun.

I have many guns and can shoot most of them pretty well. I have a Glock 21 SF with a light/laser on it in my headboard. But I also have a Mossberg 500 sitting right next to the bed that is "Cruiser Ready" with 11 rounds on board, and has a light too. I'd be grabbing it before the Glock everytime, or if I was dressed probably both with extra mags and side saddles.IE: Now we are going to WAR !!!.

On my property a 50 yard shot would be the exception, most would be under 25 yards so a shotgun is a good choice..

I have a DA Revolver that shoots .44 Specials and it would certainly stop anything that got hit by a 250 gr slug, not as good with it but still Competent.

I have a PCC .40 S&W Carbine that uses Glock mags from my G23 or G35.
Mini 14, AR SU16 and various other rifles that could be used if I could get to them. I wouldn't feel under gunned with any of them including my 10/22!

BUT!

The Shotgun is my first choice, Because it will do the most damage with ANY hit on meat. A Center Mass hit with 00 buckshot is an absolute fight ender, unless they are wearing Body armor, and if they are a shot in the crotch or blowing a leg off or an arm or their head will stop their forward motion permanently! Period!

If they are unlucky enough to receive a slug, that will stop things permanently as well.

I have been trained alot with all these weapons and that is why I pick the shotgun first,,, BUT,,, you really need to be trained on as many firearms systems as you can, because you never know what you are going to have to fight with. Being competent with many guns is IMHO better than being really good with only one!

I have a Makarov in the end table next to my Easy Chair. Not my first choice but certainly better than nothing. In my shop I have a CZ82 (9x18 Makarov) that is quickly accessible and once again not my first choice but easy to get into action quickly and both these guns have 3 extra mags with them.

So that's my story.

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I'm old. My choice at the end of the day is a shotgun. The choice is based on self defense rather than pretending to be a war fighter.
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I have a Makarov in the end table next to my Easy Chair. Not my first choice but certainly better than nothing. In my shop I have a CZ82 (9x18 Makarov) that is quickly accessible and once again not my first choice but easy to get into action quickly and both these guns have 3 extra mags with them.
Which 9x18 (gun) of those two do you prefer?
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Question for you if I may: Let's say you are involved in a shooting, especially one where the suspect is killed or expected to die. Local LE temporarily takes your gun as part of their investigation and has their firearm expert examine the gun. The expert will advise the investigators of your trigger modifications. In turn, they contact you and inquire as to why you made the modifications to the trigger. What are you going to tell them? Thanks
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Same thing I would if they asked me why I modified the engine in my sports car if I were in a fatal car accident...after speaking with my attorney and having him present to stop me from saying something incriminating.

This is one of those old gun myths. Forty years ago before doing trigger mods was commonplace you might need to worry about this. Not in this day and age. If it were a real thing you would need to explain the night sights, tactical light, grip mods, red dots, etc. Yes, a DA can make whatever claims he wants. Your lawyer will have no trouble refuting them. The police are not going to care one way or another. They just collect the facts and evidence. It is the DA who makes hay out of nothing.
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Question for you if I may: Let's say you are involved in a shooting, especially one where the suspect is killed or expected to die. Local LE temporarily takes your gun as part of their investigation and has their firearm expert examine the gun. The expert will advise the investigators of your trigger modifications. In turn, they contact you and inquire as to why you made the modifications to the trigger. What are you going to tell them? Thanks

I'd tell them that the trigger was improved in an effort to aid my marksmanship, "since only those interested in marksmanship may be expected to hit what they're aiming at".*

And the point of any defensive use of a firearm is to stop the deadly threat of any violent criminal attack on my person or my wife's person.


*to paraphrase the enigmatic Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, may he R.I.P.
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And to answer the OP, I'll continue to practice with, and to rely on, either my .45 Auto 1911s and my "Heavy" .44 Special revolvers.

Should the time arrive that my wrists permanently resist the onslaught of the larger bores' ballistics, I may then welcome to my armory a 9mm 1911 or two. Until then, however...

There's always a 16.5" (Rossi) or an 18.5" (Marlin) .357 Magnum chambered lever action carbines. These are short, light, and handy. They're shorter overall than an 18" pump shotgun, the third type of weapon in our Home Defense rotation.
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Which 9x18 (gun) of those two do you prefer?

The CZ 82 is what the Makarov wished it would have been .

The CZ is also easier on your hands and it holds 12 rounds instead of only 8.

The CZ Mag Release is also easier to use than the Mak's. That's why the Mak has a Lanyard on the Mag Release. Both shoot well and are easy to hit with, the CZ is just easier to run. The Mak got a different Barrel and Compensator added to it back in the 80's

Here is my CZ 82 bottom, Makarov center, and G36 .45 ACP. top G36 is gone now.



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