AB-28 Firearms and Ammunition: Excise Tax... Signed 9/26/23

[DCoakley]

And didn't Commefornia pass SB 1 a fews years ago where we had to add a half cent tax to all sales for roads. I might be wrong on the bill but remember seeing signs on state highways about this.

[Dvrjon]

Originally Posted by DCoakley

And didn't Commefornia pass SB 1 a fews years ago where we had to add a half cent tax to all sales for roads. I might be wrong on the bill but remember seeing signs on state highways about this.

No.

In 2017, SB 1 established fuel taxes and vehicle fees which generate estimated new funding for roadways, including up to $1.5 billion per year allocated directly to counties and cities for local road maintenance, safety improvements and complete street improvements including facilities for bicycles and pedestrians.

Sales tax had nothing to do with it.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by SpudmanWP

I agree that for BOTH gas and EVs the tax should be calculated based on miles and assessed when you do your annual registration. I say both to make it a uniform process..

How will they differentiate between miles driven in the PRK and those out of state? Say I take a road trip to the east coast & put 4K miles on the car. Only about (and I'm being generous) 400 miles of those will be in the PRK.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by SpudmanWP

I agree that for BOTH gas and EVs the tax should be calculated based on miles and assessed when you do your annual registration. I say both to make it a uniform process.

The only problem with that is that people who sell their cars right before the registration ends will burden the buyer with a potentially large & unexpected bill.

How will they differentiate between miles driven in the PRK and those out of state? Say I take a road trip to the east coast & put 4K miles on the car. Only about (and I'm being generous) 400 miles of those will be in the PRK.

[ar15barrels]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

How will they differentiate between miles driven in the PRK and those out of state? Say I take a road trip to the east coast & put 4K miles on the car. Only about (and I'm being generous) 400 miles of those will be in the PRK.

It will be easy for you to prove the out-of state mileage with your gas receipts in all the other states you were traveling through.

[FourT6and2]

Originally Posted by ar15barrels

It will be easy for you to prove the out-of state mileage with your gas receipts in all the other states you were traveling through.

Imagine the California Franchise Tax Board trying to double check 39,240,000 tax returns for gas receipts, food purchases, and lodging to make sure everybody was out of state for x amount of miles on their vehicles lol. I know, I know... you'll only have to "prove" it if you get audited. But you know what... I never actually drove those miles on the road. It was 100% dyno miles lol.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Back on topic... Even The Los Angeles Times appears to be having '2nd thoughts' about this... Column: California Democrats misfired by passing proposed tax on guns and ammo

...My No. 1 example of a bad miss was the bill the Legislature passed to impose a new 11% state excise tax on firearm and ammunition sales. Again, the ruling Democrats' answer to a problem was to raise taxes rather than prioritize spending.

Gov. Gavin Newsom hasn't indicated how he feels about that tax. Gun control groups are trying to pressure him into signing the measure. They?re worried he might veto it. He should.

A legislative bull's-eye was a bill to resume restrictions on when concealed weapons can be carried in public...

"You don't need a gun to go to your daughter?s soccer game," says state Sen. Anthony Portantino (D-Burbank), author of Senate Bill 2. "You need a water bottle and orange slices."

Another miss: Legislative adoption of Newsom's resolution calling for a constitutional convention to adopt a 28th Amendment mandating new federal gun controls...

But a constitutional convention is a scary notion because red states could dominate and wind up bolstering gun rights while weakening other protections - such as those embodied in the 1st Amendment.

"A terrible idea," UC Berkeley Law School Dean Erwin Chemerinsky, a constitutional scholar, has asserted...

The California Legislature has pretty much maxed out on passing strict gun control laws. The state's focus now is on defending its current laws in gun-friendly courts, including the highest.

Meanwhile, lawmakers should understand that reaching into gun owners' pockets is not analogous to justifiably controlling who buys weapons and what types.

Similarly, in another piece today from the same outfit... Letters to the Editor: Why California's proposed gun tax doesn't make sense

You have to wonder if Newsom and the Left are planning a VETO in an attempt to come across as 'reasonable' on 'gun control' measures so as to bolster his 'non-Presidential' run given that... Gavin Newsom got grilled on '60 Minutes' about whether he intends to run for president. This time his answer wasn't 'no.'...

..."I'm never going to overpromise that in the short run. I mean, we are struggling in this state. Housing, and homelessness," Newsom replied.

"Is that a yes or a no?" Vega pressed Newsom again, later in the interview.

"That was a - that was a never-ending response to your question," Newsom said.

This isn't the first time Newsom has been asked about his presidential ambitions. His answer has changed over time...

In other words, they're running him up the flag pole again and, I suppose, it's possible, that he may be trying to 'temper' his image nationally.

[FourT6and2]

A legislative bull's-eye was a bill to resume restrictions on when concealed weapons can be carried in public...

"You don't need a gun to go to your daughter?s soccer game," says state Sen. Anthony Portantino (D-Burbank), author of Senate Bill 2. "You need a water bottle and orange slices."

What a bunch of BS. The whole point of carrying for self-defense is that you can't predict the future. You don't know when you will or won't need to defend life and limb. Going to your daughter's soccer game? How about when you walk through the city to get to your car or from your car that you parked 5 blocks away to the game? Or how about when you stop for gas? Or any other number of scenarios. I'm not one to be paranoid and I don't carry (not that it's legal for me because of where I live). But for a politician to use this kind of backwards logic is infuriating.

[tenemae]

It has been 12 days since this bill has been presented to the governor's desk. Unless I'm mistaken, the deadline to veto is today at 3pm. Otherwise, this bill becomes law.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...=202320240AB28

[live2suck]

Originally Posted by tenemae

It has been 12 days since this bill has been presented to the governor's desk. Unless I'm mistaken, the deadline to veto is today at 3pm. Otherwise, this bill becomes law.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...=202320240AB28

- you're right!!

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2023/09/25/to...n-safety-laws/

Published: Sep 25, 2023

SACRAMENTO ? Tomorrow in Sacramento County, Governor Gavin Newsom, alongside Attorney General Rob Bonta, lawmakers, and gun safety advocates and survivors will announce new efforts to protect Californians from gun violence.

That doesn't sound promising ...

[bigdaddyz1776]

Originally Posted by AlmostHeaven

Retailers will collect the excise tax anyway because the fear of having the California DOJ come around with audits and issue huge fines overrides the desire to save customers 11%. The State of California has literally embarked upon a massive lawsuit to hold fossil fuel companies liable for allegedly contributing to climate change; what makes you think your restrictive interpretation of the tax code would prevail?

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...anies-00116398

California, an example of what happens when citizens forget about politics and just "want to grill".

Well now all the karens and other statist groups are coming for those grills.

[Dvrjon]

In case it was missed. Mass gun law bill signing event tomorrow.

TOMORROW: In Sacramento County, Governor Newsom to Sign Legislation to Further Strengthen California’s Gun Safety Laws
Published: Sep 25, 2023
SACRAMENTO – Tomorrow in Sacramento County, Governor Gavin Newsom, alongside Attorney General Rob Bonta, lawmakers, and gun safety advocates and survivors will announce new efforts to protect Californians from gun violence.

WHEN: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at approximately 10:30 a.m.

LIVESTREAM: @CAgovernor Twitter page, California Governor Facebook page and the Governor’s YouTube page. This event will also be available to TV stations on the LiveU Matrix under “California Governor.”

**NOTE: This in-person press event will be open to credentialed media only. Media interested in attending must RSVP to govpressoffice@gov.ca.gov by no later than Tuesday, September 26 at 8:30 a.m.

[bigdaddyz1776]

Originally Posted by TrappedinCalifornia

Back on topic... Even The Los Angeles Times appears to be having '2nd thoughts' about this... Column: California Democrats misfired by passing proposed tax on guns and ammo



Similarly, in another piece today from the same outfit... Letters to the Editor: Why California's proposed gun tax doesn't make sense

You have to wonder if Newsom and the Left are planning a VETO in an attempt to come across as 'reasonable' on 'gun control' measures so as to bolster his 'non-Presidential' run given that... Gavin Newsom got grilled on '60 Minutes' about whether he intends to run for president. This time his answer wasn't 'no.'...



In other words, they're running him up the flag pole again and, I suppose, it's possible, that he may be trying to 'temper' his image nationally.

This cat known as Anthony Portantino is some suspicious spooky guy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Portantino

Wikipedia has no life history on this guy beyond what he has done or believes in.

And is planning to run for Adam Schiff's seat.

Though I wonder that he is why he decided to drop the pounds to go from auditioning for the 800 lb life to auditioning for playing the mummy in a horror movie about Ancient Egypt.

[Dvrjon]

Bills potentially available for highlighting at the Newsom News Conference and signing party:

Senate Bill 241: Signed. The bill requires California firearm retailers and their employees to undergo annual training courses which are implemented by the California Department of Justice (CalDOJ).

Assembly Bill 1406: would expand the existing 10-day waiting period on the sale or transfer of a firearm to include a possible 30-day state waiting period.

Senate Bill 368: adds additional requirements and red tape for firearm retailers to navigate should a person experiencing temporary mental health challenges decide to give their firearm to the dealer for storage.

Assembly Bill 1089: prohibits anyone, including a gunsmith or hobbyist, from manufacturing a home-built firearm and requires those individuals to register as a state-licensed firearm manufacturer.

Assembly Bill 28. would impose an 11 percent excise tax on firearm retailers and manufacturers for all sales of guns or ammunition.

Senate Bill 2 ?nuff said.

While there are still only a handful of days remaining, the firearm industry is also watching to see if legislators move a Assembly Bill 1587: California state Merchant Category Code (MCC) bill to track individuals who make firearm purchases using a credit card.

Senate Bill 452 which would require the state to study the unworkable and flawed technology on new firearms in the state.

Expect many ?usual suspects? to be gathered and speech?s about common sense gun laws. Then, expect a diatribe on the reckless ideologues in the courts and the need to press for a 28th Amendment.

[Dvrjon]

Originally Posted by bigdaddyz1776

This cat known as Anthony Portantino is some suspicious spooky guy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Portantino

Wikipedia has no life history on this guy beyond what he has done or believes in.

And is planning to run for Adam Schiff's seat.

Though I wonder that he is why he decided to drop the pounds to go from auditioning for the 800 lb life to auditioning for playing the mummy in a horror movie about Ancient Egypt.

Voterly background on Portantino. (scroll down).

Another source.

[redhead]

I?m watching the signing party video right now. SB 2 is going to be signed, as is SB452. The woman who wrote the bill said it will require that all pistols sold and transferred starting in 2028 must have microstamping technology. Portantino is yapping right now about how great SB 2 is and how much safer we?ll all be. ?How do we make Californians safer?? And on and on.

[redhead]

Newsom signed the excise tax bill, carry restrictions and microstamping. He?s looking very very happy. I want to vomit.

[redhead]

Newsom is blathering about ?what will happen post-Bruen.? He?s calling what the USSC has done is ?rights regression? and we?re in a post Bruen world and need to deal with it. He?s nothing but a tyrant.

[redhead]

I can?t watch anymore of this. It was just said that if the market doesn?t produce microstamping technology, then the state will do it. I just feel so sick.

Newsom is denying that he is trying to make it impossible for gun stores to operating. He says, C?mon, how about humility and accountability? They?re selling weapons of war. These laws are deminimis.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Originally Posted by redhead

I?m watching the signing party video right now. SB 2 is going to be signed, as is SB452. The woman who wrote the bill said it will require that all pistols sold and transferred starting in 2028 must have microstamping technology. Portantino is yapping right now about how great SB 2 is and how much safer we?ll all be. ?How do we make Californians safer?? And on and on.

Originally Posted by redhead

Newsom signed the excise tax bill, carry restrictions and microstamping. He?s looking very very happy. I want to vomit.

Newsom signs gun laws that add new taxes and limit where owners can carry firearms

California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed several gun-control measures on Tuesday, including a bill that tightens the state?s concealed-carry rules and another that imposes a new tax on firearm and ammunition sales.

During a signing ceremony in Sacramento alongside lawmakers and gun-control advocates, Newsom said California would push back on legal efforts to dismantle its firearms laws and maintain its position as a national gun-control leader, but called for greater federal action...

Of the more than 20 bills Newsom signed, two stand out as especially significant...

Senate Bill 2 is California?s response to the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn. vs. Bruen last year, when the 6-3 conservative majority justices struck down restrictive concealed-carry laws as unconstitutional...

Speaking at the signing event in Sacramento, Bonta shrugged off those arguments and said that SB 2 is "Bruen compliant" and "follows the blueprint" of the decision.

Portantino also said California could make a "compelling argument" in defense of every banned place on the list...

The second major proposal Newsom signed is Assembly Bill 28, landmark legislation by Assemblymember Jesse Gabriel (D-Encino) that will impose an 11% tax on dealers and manufacturers for sales of guns and ammunition. The new law is expected to raise more than $160 million annually for violence prevention, school safety programs and victim support services...

Newsom said he saw the new gun tax through a different lens than a general income tax, and that the money would be used for important services and programs.

"I think this is a pretty modest investment in prevention," he said...

The new tax law will take effect on July 1, 2024.

Other bills Newsom signed will:

• Restrict firearms dealers from holding certain game-style promotional events such as lotteries and raffles and create an opportunity for gun owners in a mental health crisis to store their weapons with dealers.
• Prohibit licensed firearm dealers from selling semiautomatic pistols without microstamping verification, beginning in 2028.
• Prohibit certain people in pretrial mental health diversion from owning a firearm until they complete the program.
• Reduce how much time someone convicted of a crime has to hand in their firearms.
• Bar someone from buying or owning body armor, often used by mass shooters, if they?re also banned from owning guns.
• Crack down on unserialized firearms, or so-called ghost guns, and the 3-D printers used to make them.

[redhead]

I?m sorry I watched as much of that signing party as I did. It was truly disturbing. I?m going to have to go take a walk. What a bunch of giddy tyrants

[Franko221]

Not surprised by this, but am hopeful we can get this struck down along with the NFA in it's entirety.

[zeneffect]

Assembly Bill 1089 - right on its face violates 1st and 4th.

[Superben104]

Let's go Benitez, we could use your help on all these and then some.

[live2suck]

Here's a complete list of everything gun-related that our fine governor signed today:

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2023/09/26/go...n-safety-laws/

• AB 28 by Assemblymember Jesse Gabriel (D-Encino) - Firearms and ammunition: excise tax.
• AB 92 by Assemblymember Damon Connolly (D-San Rafael) - Body armor: prohibition.
• AB 97 by Assemblymember Freddie Rodriguez (D-Pomona) - Firearms: unserialized firearms.
• AB 301 by Rebecca Bauer-Kahan (D-Orinda) - Gun violence restraining orders: body armor.
• AB 355 by Assemblymember Juan Alanis (R-Modesto) - Firearms: assault weapons: exception for peace officer training.
• AB 455 by Assemblymember Sharon Quirk-Silva (D-Fullerton) - Firearms: prohibited persons.
• AB 574 by Assemblymember Reginald Byron Jones-Sawyer, Sr. (D-Los Angeles) - Firearms: dealer records of sale.
• AB 724 by Assemblymember Vince Fong (R-Bakersfield) - Firearms: safety certificate instructional materials.
• AB 725 by Assemblymember Josh Lowenthal (D-Long Beach) - Firearms: reporting of lost and stolen firearms.
• AB 732 by Assemblymember Mike Fong (D-Alhambra) - Crimes: relinquishment of firearms.
• AB 762 by Assemblymember Buffy Wicks (D-Oakland) - California Violence Intervention and Prevention Grant Program.
• AB 818 by Assemblymember Cottie Petrie-Norris (D-Irvine) - Protective orders.
• AB 1089 by Assemblymember Mike Gipson (D-Carson) - Firearms.
• AB 1406 by Assemblymember Kevin McCarty (D-Sacramento) - Firearms: waiting periods.
• AB 1420 by Assemblymember Marc Berman (D-Menlo Park) - Firearms.
• AB 1483 by Assemblymember Avelino Valencia (D-Anaheim) - Firearms: purchases.
• AB 1587 by Assemblymember Philip Ting (D-San Francisco) - Financial transactions: firearms merchants: merchant category code.
• AB 1598 by Assemblymember Marc Berman (D-Menlo Park) - Gun violence: firearm safety education.
• SB 2 by Senator Anthony Portantino (D-Burbank) - Firearms.
• SB 241 by Senator Dave Min (D-Irvine) - Firearms: dealer requirements.
• SB 368 by Senator Anthony Portantino (D-Burbank) - Firearms: requirements for licensed dealers.
• SB 417 by Senator Catherine Blakespear (D-Encinitas) - Firearms: licensed dealers.
• SB 452 by Senator Catherine Blakespear (D-Encinitas) - Firearms.

[fireguymfd]

Originally Posted by TrappedinCalifornia

Back on topic... Even The Los Angeles Times appears to be having '2nd thoughts' about this... Column: California Democrats misfired by passing proposed tax on guns and ammo



Similarly, in another piece today from the same outfit... Letters to the Editor: Why California's proposed gun tax doesn't make sense

You have to wonder if Newsom and the Left are planning a VETO in an attempt to come across as 'reasonable' on 'gun control' measures so as to bolster his 'non-Presidential' run given that... Gavin Newsom got grilled on '60 Minutes' about whether he intends to run for president. This time his answer wasn't 'no.'...



In other words, they're running him up the flag pole again and, I suppose, it's possible, that he may be trying to 'temper' his image nationally.

Good Articles? but Gavin Newsom isn?t capable of thinking for himself, he is the mouth piece of the left wing ideologues, fortunately bills like AB-28 and his 28th Amendment proposal will most likely end his Presidential hopes. These are not reasonable gun control. Unfortunately, he will be a Senator when he terms out of his Governorship. Life long politicians dominate the Democratic Party!

[chris]

Originally Posted by Canadadry

I was recently involved in a meeting with Newsom. I can't give too many details. However, we advised him of the difficulty of what he was asking the industry to do. He didn't care. He told us "we make the rules and you follow". Doesn't that just sound like him.

I made some firearms purchases this year and under the new law it would have cost me an additional $1200 in taxes.

Is as big of a douchebag that he appears to be?

That's the definition of tyranny right there. He along with Democrats (Communists) don't care what anyone thinks or cares. It's their way or the highway. These people despise the Constitution.

Of course he signed this bill. But Mulford.

[ProfChaos]

?These laws will not make us safer. They are an unconstitutional retaliatory and vindictive response to the Supreme Court?s affirmation that the Second Amendment protects an individuals? right to choose to own a firearm for sport or to defend your family," Chuck Michel, president of the California Rifle and Pistol Association said. ?They are being challenged, and the second they are signed, the clock starts ticking towards a judgment striking them down.?

Chuck Michel has a good quote. Its all clearly vindictive after Bruen.

I really wish the system was setup to maintain the status quo when a lawsuit is filed as the burden should always be on the government for why they believe the laws are justified. In no sane world should the laws go into effect and remain while they go through the court system.

[chris]

Originally Posted by fireguymfd

Good Articles? but Gavin Newsom isn?t capable of thinking for himself, he is the mouth piece of the left wing ideologues, fortunately AB-28 and his 28th Amendment proposal will most likely end his Presidential hopes. Unfortunately, he will be a Senator when he terms out of his Governorship. Life long politicians dominate the Democratic Party!

Moronic Democrats will still vote for him and so called Independents will vote for him as well. Even when getting royally screwed over they will still pull that lever for the DemoKrat.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Originally Posted by chris

Is as big of a douchebag that he appears to be?

That's the definition of tyranny right there. He along with Democrats (Communists) don't care what anyone thinks or cares. It's their way or the highway. These people despise the Constitution.

Of course he signed this bill. But Mulford.

Originally Posted by chris

Moronic Democrats will still vote for him and so called Independents will vote for him as well. Even when getting royally screwed over they will still pull that lever for the DemoKrat.

Which is why Newsom and Bonta look like this as they announce infringements on Constitutionally protected rights...

[AlmostHeaven]

Originally Posted by TrappedinCalifornia

Rob Bonta is laughing all the way to the courtroom as he defends the state trampling all over the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens using tax dollars provided by many of the very same oppressed individuals.

[FourT6and2]

Originally Posted by live2suck

Here's a complete list of everything gun-related that our fine governor signed today:

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2023/09/26/go...n-safety-laws/

• AB 28 by Assemblymember Jesse Gabriel (D-Encino) - Firearms and ammunition: excise tax.
• AB 92 by Assemblymember Damon Connolly (D-San Rafael) - Body armor: prohibition.
• AB 97 by Assemblymember Freddie Rodriguez (D-Pomona) - Firearms: unserialized firearms.
• AB 301 by Rebecca Bauer-Kahan (D-Orinda) - Gun violence restraining orders: body armor.
• AB 355 by Assemblymember Juan Alanis (R-Modesto) - Firearms: assault weapons: exception for peace officer training.
• AB 455 by Assemblymember Sharon Quirk-Silva (D-Fullerton) - Firearms: prohibited persons.
• AB 574 by Assemblymember Reginald Byron Jones-Sawyer, Sr. (D-Los Angeles) - Firearms: dealer records of sale.
• AB 724 by Assemblymember Vince Fong (R-Bakersfield) - Firearms: safety certificate instructional materials.
• AB 725 by Assemblymember Josh Lowenthal (D-Long Beach) - Firearms: reporting of lost and stolen firearms.
• AB 732 by Assemblymember Mike Fong (D-Alhambra) - Crimes: relinquishment of firearms.
• AB 762 by Assemblymember Buffy Wicks (D-Oakland) - California Violence Intervention and Prevention Grant Program.
• AB 818 by Assemblymember Cottie Petrie-Norris (D-Irvine) - Protective orders.
• AB 1089 by Assemblymember Mike Gipson (D-Carson) - Firearms.
• AB 1406 by Assemblymember Kevin McCarty (D-Sacramento) - Firearms: waiting periods.
• AB 1420 by Assemblymember Marc Berman (D-Menlo Park) - Firearms.
• AB 1483 by Assemblymember Avelino Valencia (D-Anaheim) - Firearms: purchases.
• AB 1587 by Assemblymember Philip Ting (D-San Francisco) - Financial transactions: firearms merchants: merchant category code.
• AB 1598 by Assemblymember Marc Berman (D-Menlo Park) - Gun violence: firearm safety education.
• SB 2 by Senator Anthony Portantino (D-Burbank) - Firearms.
• SB 241 by Senator Dave Min (D-Irvine) - Firearms: dealer requirements.
• SB 368 by Senator Anthony Portantino (D-Burbank) - Firearms: requirements for licensed dealers.
• SB 417 by Senator Catherine Blakespear (D-Encinitas) - Firearms: licensed dealers.
• SB 452 by Senator Catherine Blakespear (D-Encinitas) - Firearms.

Was one of these extending the 10-day wait to 30 days?

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by FourT6and2

Was one of these extending the 10-day wait to 30 days?

Yes.

It was only for those who?s background doesn?t clear.

AB1406

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Originally Posted by FourT6and2

Was one of these extending the 10-day wait to 30 days?

Originally Posted by 9Cal_OC

Yes.

It was only for those who?s background doesn?t clear.

AB1406

I just posted a thread providing the full list of gun bills signed today and inserted links.

See... Full List of Firearms-Related Bills (with Links) Signed Into Law 9/26/23

I think the one you're referring to was AB 1406; i.e., the one which says "Waiting Periods."

As Librarian advised earlier today in a thread in National...

Originally Posted by Librarian

Geez, peeps! 14 posts deleted.

I know you all know better. If it is not directly about Duncan, it doesn't go into this thread - start yer own!

I suspect the same holds true here in relation to AB 28. So, let's take it to the other thread or one specifically dealing with AB 1406 as that seems to be the 'advised' action.

[Steverino]

Clearly Newsom & crew are pissing on the Constitution, and daring the SCOTUS to blink...

Guess the silver lining (if there is one) here is that all this litigation is finally making it the last mile to the SCOTUS... where all the Constitutionally minded folk will finally see whether the SCOTUS has the cojones to actually stand up for the People... or not.

[DCoakley]

This is insane!!!

[QuickDraw]

In typical Democrat fashion, none of these laws go into effect until 2024. By the time the laws go into effect and lawsuits are filed, it could be 4 or 5 years, plenty of time for the Dems to change the make-up of the Supreme Court.
They play the long game.

[johncmng]

How can I sue for money!?!? If enough people sue for money, Newscum may stop all of this BS.

[ar15barrels]

Originally Posted by johncmng

How can I sue for money!?!? If enough people sue for money, Newscum may stop all of this BS.

Google "qualified immunity".

[chris]

Originally Posted by live2suck

Here's a complete list of everything gun-related that our fine governor signed today:

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2023/09/26/go...n-safety-laws/

• AB 28 by Assemblymember Jesse Gabriel (D-Encino) - Firearms and ammunition: excise tax.
• AB 92 by Assemblymember Damon Connolly (D-San Rafael) - Body armor: prohibition.
• AB 97 by Assemblymember Freddie Rodriguez (D-Pomona) - Firearms: unserialized firearms.
• AB 301 by Rebecca Bauer-Kahan (D-Orinda) - Gun violence restraining orders: body armor.
• AB 355 by Assemblymember Juan Alanis (R-Modesto) - Firearms: assault weapons: exception for peace officer training.
• AB 455 by Assemblymember Sharon Quirk-Silva (D-Fullerton) - Firearms: prohibited persons.
• AB 574 by Assemblymember Reginald Byron Jones-Sawyer, Sr. (D-Los Angeles) - Firearms: dealer records of sale.
• AB 724 by Assemblymember Vince Fong (R-Bakersfield) - Firearms: safety certificate instructional materials.
• AB 725 by Assemblymember Josh Lowenthal (D-Long Beach) - Firearms: reporting of lost and stolen firearms.
• AB 732 by Assemblymember Mike Fong (D-Alhambra) - Crimes: relinquishment of firearms.
• AB 762 by Assemblymember Buffy Wicks (D-Oakland) - California Violence Intervention and Prevention Grant Program.
• AB 818 by Assemblymember Cottie Petrie-Norris (D-Irvine) - Protective orders.
• AB 1089 by Assemblymember Mike Gipson (D-Carson) - Firearms.
• AB 1406 by Assemblymember Kevin McCarty (D-Sacramento) - Firearms: waiting periods.
• AB 1420 by Assemblymember Marc Berman (D-Menlo Park) - Firearms.
• AB 1483 by Assemblymember Avelino Valencia (D-Anaheim) - Firearms: purchases.
• AB 1587 by Assemblymember Philip Ting (D-San Francisco) - Financial transactions: firearms merchants: merchant category code.
• AB 1598 by Assemblymember Marc Berman (D-Menlo Park) - Gun violence: firearm safety education.
• SB 2 by Senator Anthony Portantino (D-Burbank) - Firearms.
• SB 241 by Senator Dave Min (D-Irvine) - Firearms: dealer requirements.
• SB 368 by Senator Anthony Portantino (D-Burbank) - Firearms: requirements for licensed dealers.
• SB 417 by Senator Catherine Blakespear (D-Encinitas) - Firearms: licensed dealers.
• SB 452 by Senator Catherine Blakespear (D-Encinitas) - Firearms.

He's signed about 40 bill in his tenure.