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Old 09-10-2019, 10:31 AM
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Default Scales and the RCBS 1010

I'd like to find an old RCBS 1010 scale but I'm not sure it's prudent given that you cannot get parts anymore and thus no warranty if there is an issue. Is the M1000 really that bad? I'm just struggling to spend $80+ on a scale that cannot be fixed if anything happens to it.

Also, any ears to the ground about possible group buys on powder/primers/projectiles? I checked arfcom but there doesn't seem to have been a real group buy over there since 2017.
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Old 09-10-2019, 10:39 AM
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If you have qualms about a used 1010, buy a Chargemaster
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Old 09-10-2019, 10:46 AM
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If you have qualms about a used 1010, buy a Chargemaster
Just to be clear, it's not he used part that bothers me, it's the unserviceable part. I will likely pickup an electronic scale but I want to keep a few beam scales around for good planning. Thought about picking up a couple 502 or 505 since those are a dime a dozen with plenty to scavenge for parts. Pretty sure you need something bigger for some shotgun loads though?
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Old 09-10-2019, 10:50 AM
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I wouldn't worry too much about a GOOD used 10-10. I've had mine since '78-'79, still use it. Never had an issue with it. Don't like the digitals to much, they seem to drift about.
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Unless you drop it, its not going to just become unserviceable.

They are sturdy and simple. They are adjustable and should be calibrated frequently.
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Old 09-10-2019, 11:16 AM
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They are adjustable and should be calibrated frequently.
Not sure what frequently means, but they should be calibrated before use.

If you want to get down into the weeds, you may want to check the scale, re-calibrate, at the end of using it to verify it did not drift.
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Old 09-10-2019, 11:25 AM
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there's a guy that repairs and refines the good scales. Single kernel scales i believe is his business name.
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Old 09-10-2019, 12:20 PM
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Just to be clear, it's not he used part that bothers me, it's the unserviceable part. I will likely pickup an electronic scale but I want to keep a few beam scales around for good planning. Thought about picking up a couple 502 or 505 since those are a dime a dozen with plenty to scavenge for parts. Pretty sure you need something bigger for some shotgun loads though?
Since the 1010 was discontinued, then RCBS aint gonna life a finger. I have been using my 1010 since 2010 without any issues other than a bit slow for my taste. So, I got a Chargemaster and still use the 1010 if I need to check the powder charge.

Read post #7, and check out that FB page. It looks like the phone number of from that FB page is for Scott Parker. Google "Scott Parker scale tuning" as I'm sure that he can help or sell you a tuned 1010 scale.

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Old 09-10-2019, 12:26 PM
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It comes with older stuff... I have an old Sidewinder tumbler; the barrel got bumped around accidentally and cracked badly.

Can't get replacement barrel, so looking in to plastic welding setup. Would be handy for other plastic items too.
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Old 09-10-2019, 1:13 PM
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I'll check with Scott Parker. Heard some mentions that he was MIA for a while but then saw a post on arfcom about someone having him tune a few scales a few months back. Didn't even consider he might have a scale to sell vs repair only. Will reach out to him.

Gonna get back on my search I suppose. Now the question is, if the only version I can find is made in China, does that become a deal breaker? I'd really like made in US but understanding that might be a harder order to fulfill, especially when you're talking craigslist/ebay/etc and used and unknown history.
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The RCBS 5-5, 5-10 and 10-10 are rebranded Ohaus scales. If you want a made in USA one, you can expand your search to inclued Ohaus.
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^^^^This.
I picked an O'Haus up for $20 in a bargain bid at a local gun shop. Took it to the local O'Haus scale store and it was perfect. Made in USA, has the unbroken cover and sits right at eye level for verification.
They don't come much better'n an O'Haus or RCBS 1010.
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Old 09-10-2019, 4:12 PM
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Lucky for me, Peter was quick to respond and he says he has one for me. That's pretty awesome since any other source is likely to be questionable on care, I know Peter is going to send me a solid piece of equipment.


Still gonna troll antique shops and ebay though. Best case I get a second one for cheap and worst case I have a solid one from Peter.

Thanks everyone!

Now onto the group buy thing. I'm guessing nobody knows of anything since not a single mention of it.
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Now onto the group buy thing. I'm guessing nobody knows of anything since not a single mention of it.
No one wants to bother because to many half measures have screwed it up in the past.

Pony up and order what you need like everyone else. Follow the adds Bruno's Third generation shooter supply, Brownell's, Powder valley, they all have free shipping and free haz mat sales.
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Old 09-11-2019, 6:01 AM
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If you are interested, I have access to a group buy on some really edgy "avant-garde" Swedish porn....
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I just did a group buy with my buddies. The order comes in today. You have to make friends with fellow reloader to get a group buy going. Having done a half a million projectile order from xtreme, group buys are a lot of work and most people are flakes.

Find some friends and make orders happen.

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I wouldn't worry too much about a GOOD used 10-10. I've had mine since '78-'79, still use it. Never had an issue with it. Don't like the digitals to much, they seem to drift about.
Hey Tom, remember when I was over and told you I got one on ebay?

This one is the exception. It looks like it broke, was put back in the box and left in a barn with no roof for 25 years. I'd offer it up for parts but I'm not sure anything is usable on it.

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Old 09-12-2019, 7:33 AM
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Dang Mark, that sucks right there. I wonder if that Peter fellow that 'Diceman spoke of could fix it? If not, will keep an eye out for ya.
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I just did a group buy with my buddies. The order comes in today. You have to make friends with fellow reloader to get a group buy going. Having done a half a million projectile order from xtreme, group buys are a lot of work and most people are flakes.

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Dang Mark, that sucks right there. I wonder if that Peter fellow that 'Diceman spoke of could fix it? If not, will keep an eye out for ya.
I'm sure he could, and if not, I'm sure he'd be happy to sell you a different one.
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Mark, have you seen the above answer yet?^^^^^
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Brand new, guarantee accurate to 1/10 of a grain, US Bureau of Standards Approved. See Redding.
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The RCBS 10-10 was an Ohaus 10-10




I assume the Redding was made by Ohaus. I regularly use this in cold weather



Amazon has them new, for $107.

https://www.amazon.com/Redding-Reloa...0CX1HADTJEKMRW

I found electronic scales drift badly in very cold weather. Where I reload, I use space heaters and as the room warms, electronic scales drift. But, luckily, gravity seems to be relatively unaffected by heat.

Some of the older Reddings used agate bearing in the body, I have two of these and one has bearing inserts that must be the agate, and the other is just aluminum bearing seats.
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If you do buy a 10-10, look at the inside/bottom. It should have "Mfg by Ohaus Scale Co., Florham Park, NJ, USA". Anything else is off shore.
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Mark, have you seen the above answer yet?^^^^^
Thanks Tom, I'll check it out. I picked up the sks today. Its covered with cosmoline

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