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Old 03-23-2020, 2:49 PM
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Default You wants 9mm load data? I gots yer 9mm load data...

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Thanks, the link is liked "9mm reload Bible" . Already bookmark it.
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Doesn't list 700x, which is also a good 9mm powder.
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Doesn't list 700x, which is also a good 9mm powder.
There are so many powders out there, and most of them will probably work to some degree.
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Woooo...good find, thank you for sharing
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I don't know...
I am convinced there might be one type of powder I may have overlooked.
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I don't know...
I am convinced there might be one type of powder I may have overlooked.
Is that your website?
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W231 not mentioned, one of the most popular automatic pistol powders (although I realize that HP-38 is basically an equivalent).

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Bookmarked thank you. Has some good data to reference
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Heck no. I don't even know how to post pictures much less build a website.
Non the less it's a great post. Thanks OP.

Why did you ask, did you suspect a missing 9mm powder selection too?

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Yeah, I really wanted to hear what they had to say about 231 in comparison because I've been using it for 9mm since the '80's.
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I wasn't going to say anything because the site showed HP-38. And Hp-38 and W231 are so close I chose
to let this oversight slide. Plus I heard from a commercial Reloader that Winchester is trying to ax W231.

Darn good Post for 9mm powder I must admit.
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I don't know if anybody's mentioned it, but 231 and hp38 use the same load data.
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W231 not mentioned, one of the most popular automatic pistol powders (although I realize that HP-38 is basically an equivalent).

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They are not just equivalent, HP38 and W231 are identical. The only difference is the label on the container. I realize that some manuals show different results, but that is just normal lot to lot variations.
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Perfect! Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks
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Any feedback on 231 vs hp38?
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Any feedback on 231 vs hp38?
231 and HP38 are IDENTICAL. I have even seen 231 and HP38 with the same lot number.
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231 and HP38 are IDENTICAL. I have even seen 231 and HP38 with the same lot number.
So you're saying they're similar?
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So you're saying they're similar?
O, I'm saying that they are more than just similar. They are identical. They are made in the same factory to the same formula. The only difference is the label on the container.
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I wasn't going to say anything because the site showed HP-38. And Hp-38 and W231 are so close I chose
to let this oversight slide. Plus I heard from a commercial Reloader that Winchester is trying to ax W231.

Darn good Post for 9mm powder I must admit.
The pictures of HP38 I've seen don't look anything like the 231 I have.

Maybe one of then has changed over the years.
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Any feedback on 231 vs hp38?
Maybe you could chrony some loads and write-up a comparison for us. You know, to settle the question.
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Could be.
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O, I'm saying that they are more than just similar. They are identical. They are made in the same factory to the same formula. The only difference is the label on the container.
So pretty similar?
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Maybe you could chrony some loads and write-up a comparison for us. You know, to settle the question.
Sure, what's the best chrono?

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Sure, what's the best chrono?



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So pretty similar?
I would not describe them as "pretty similar". They are the same powder. Not just similar but identical.
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Use that website's data with caution. Many +P+ loads are listed so even reducing by 10% may still be at, or over SAAMI max. Even if you can handle it, your guns may not.
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I would not describe them as "pretty similar". They are the same powder. Not just similar but identical.
So it's close?
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So it's close?
No, not close. They are the SAME powder. The factory makes a batch of powder and fills the containers. Some containers get a 231 label the rest of the containers get HP38 labels.
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So it's close?
No, not close. They are the SAME powder. The factory makes a batch of powder and fills the containers. Some containers get a 231 label the rest of the containers get HP38 labels.
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The pictures of HP38 I've seen don't look anything like the 231 I have.



Maybe one of then has changed over the years.
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That is cool, thanks for passing this on.
I use 231 or HP 38 interchangeably depending on which one is available.
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That is cool, thanks for passing this on.
I use 231 or HP 38 interchangeably depending on which one is available.
Same here. I've got almost 8 pounds of each now.
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