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[Citadelgrad87]

Originally Posted by anthracite

Don't understand what you mean by "time limit", just admit everything because they'll know about it already.

Exactly. One non insane speed ticket is not going to cost you ccw.

One, exactly one, omission on your application will cost you ccw.

Act accordingly.

[pblawman]

Originally Posted by chenzilla

Hey Guys here is my current timeline

8/23/20 - Appointment Made (appt date 2/4/21)
1/20/21 - Live Scan
2/2/21 - Live Scan All Completed
2/4/21 - Interview (requested more documents)
2/4/21 - Submitted all requested documents
2/10/21 - Still waiting for approval

That's great. Just curious what additional documents they requested.

[Mike_T]

Is a “fix it ticket” for no front plates considered a moving violation?


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[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by Mike_T

Is a “fix it ticket” for no front plates considered a moving violation?


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Not considered a moving violation but you should still list it anyways.

They’re looking to see if you disclose any police contact.

[Mike_T]

Originally Posted by 9Cal_OC

Not considered a moving violation but you should still list it anyways.

They’re looking to see if you disclose any police contact.

Thank you. Will do.


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[Citadelgrad87]

Originally Posted by pblawman

That's great. Just curious what additional documents they requested.

Just spitballing, but I am always curious about this. Note the date additional docs were requested and the date they were submitted are the same day.

My take is they are asking for documentation to establish what you claim is true. If it is true, it's never a bother to provide them.

Examples, my dad uses remote camping and wildlife photography as part of his GC. They asked for a few photos of his trips. He is a veteran, they asked for his DD214.

It's stuff you will have handy. I think they are making sure the files are complete in case there is ever a state audit of issuing practices.

[dsrtne1]

Originally Posted by triplecelectric

Has anyone had experience coming in contact with LEO while carrying and what was the LEO's reaction when you disclosed you were CCW and armed?

Have had LEO contact twice. Both times just handed over my CCW and DL together. The first time, the officer just took a look at it and said thanks before handing it back. Second time, the officer looked at it and said "Does this mean you're carrying right now?" to which I responded yes and he said "Cool! What do you carry?". Seemed like it may have been his first time seeing a non-LEO with a CCW. Both times were responding to burglary alarms at my business. I'd imagine the reaction during a traffic stop might vary a bit.

Originally Posted by Mike_T

Is a “fix it ticket” for no front plates considered a moving violation?

Originally Posted by 9Cal_OC

Not considered a moving violation but you should still list it anyways.

They’re looking to see if you disclose any police contact.

Not a moving violation and not required. I've disclosed my 1 moving violation and did not mention the 3 or 4 fix it tickets I've had on both my initial and renewal application and I was not asked about them either time. That field in the application specifies moving violations. If they wanted you to disclose any police contact they would probably just ask you to list any police contact. No need to over-complicate it.

[WinchesterBolt]

One thing I wasn't sure whether to include - did not seem to fit in any of the questions asked about any traffic citations, any arrests, etc. - is being sent to secondary inspection on coming back into the country . . .customs and border protection asked a few questions, searched my car, then sent me on my way. Not sure why they sent me to secondary, maybe just the lateness of the hour. Curious if this is something I should mention?

[Guninator]

Originally Posted by anthracite

Don't understand what you mean by "time limit", just admit everything because they'll know about it already.

It's been two+ years since I filled out the application, but IIRC, it asks about tickets within the past 5 years. I certainly didn't mention 15 year old tickets.

Originally Posted by dsrtne1

Not a moving violation and not required. I've disclosed my 1 moving violation and did not mention the 3 or 4 fix it tickets I've had on both my initial and renewal application and I was not asked about them either time. That field in the application specifies moving violations. If they wanted you to disclose any police contact they would probably just ask you to list any police contact. No need to over-complicate it.

I left an HOV lane ticket off of my application. In my interview the investigator asked if there was anything else I'd like to disclose. I told her about the HOV ticket, and told her I left it off because it is not a moving violation. She said the application asks about tickets, not moving violations, and thank you for disclosing it.

Maybe that application question has been changed in the past two years.

[dsrtne1]

Originally Posted by Guninator

I left an HOV lane ticket off of my application. In my interview the investigator asked if there was anything else I'd like to disclose. I told her about the HOV ticket, and told her I left it off because it is not a moving violation. She said the application asks about tickets, not moving violations, and thank you for disclosing it.

Maybe that application question has been changed in the past two years.

It specifies moving violations only and motor vehicle accidents. I believe an HOV ticket is a moving violation. I can see why they would want that disclosed, but don’t think they care too much about correctable violations like no front plate or window tint.

[cmoc]

Is there a way to go back an edit the packet you submitted to add moving violations? I have a speeding ticket that was dismissed a few years ago and one I got recently that I’m waiting for the court date. Do they want both of those disclosed ?

[solidfreshdope]

Originally Posted by cmoc

Is there a way to go back an edit the packet you submitted to add moving violations? I have a speeding ticket that was dismissed a few years ago and one I got recently that I’m waiting for the court date. Do they want both of those disclosed ?

Yes. Better to be open about it. I brought up in my interview things that were dismissed that were not included in my packet.

[EASonBASS]

Originally Posted by cmoc

Is there a way to go back an edit the packet you submitted to add moving violations? I have a speeding ticket that was dismissed a few years ago and one I got recently that I’m waiting for the court date. Do they want both of those disclosed ?

I don’t recall if you can edit but I’m fairly certain you can upload additional docs. You could just write up a brief disclosure and upload.

[Guninator]

Originally Posted by dsrtne1

It specifies moving violations only and motor vehicle accidents. I believe an HOV ticket is a moving violation. I can see why they would want that disclosed, but don’t think they care too much about correctable violations like no front plate or window tint.

No, HOV (CVC 21655.9) is not a moving violation (i.e., it is not an offense that adds a point to one's DMV record). Crossing a double yellow HOV line is, however a mover that will get you a DMV point.

Again, I haven't filled out the application form in 2 1/3 years, so I cannot vouch for what the wording is on the traffic citation question at this time.

[cmoc]

Originally Posted by EASonBASS

I don’t recall if you can edit but I’m fairly certain you can upload additional docs. You could just write up a brief disclosure and upload.

That is pretty smart, I think I'll do that. Thank you!

[Citadelgrad87]

My timeline.

Expiry 3/22/01

Submitted renewal packet less training cert, 12/22/20

Submitted training Cert 1/05/2021.

Email noting approval and saying they will contact me to pay for my permit over the phone and mail me my permit, 02/15/2021.

55 days from initial submission to approval.

[Citadelgrad87]

Originally Posted by Citadelgrad87

My timeline.

Expiry 3/22/01

Submitted renewal packet less training cert, 12/22/20

Submitted training Cert 1/05/2021.

Email noting approval and saying they will contact me to pay for my permit over the phone and mail me my permit, 02/15/2021.

55 days from initial submission to approval.

And today, 24 hours after approval, the SO called and took my payment over the phone. The new permit will be good from 3/22, when my old one expires, so I get the full 2 years.

Always a pleasure to deal with OCSD, at least for us law abiding folks...

[Citadelgrad87]

Originally Posted by Citadelgrad87

And today, 24 hours after approval, the SO called and took my payment over the phone. The new permit will be good from 3/22, when my old one expires, so I get the full 2 years.

Always a pleasure to deal with OCSD, at least for us law abiding folks...

And today I got my permit in the mail.

Dec 22 to Feb 19, permit in hand.

[WingDings]

Anybody do an add/delete weapon amendment lately?

Uploaded everything on Tuesday, no word as of today.

Trying to remember how long the last one took and how quickly I received notice that it was being processed.

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by WingDings

Anybody do an add/delete weapon amendment lately?

Uploaded everything on Tuesday, no word as of today.

Trying to remember how long the last one took and how quickly I received notice that it was being processed.

It’s gonna take a while.

Last I read, about 30-45 days out.

Pre-Covid, about 10 days.

[WingDings]

Originally Posted by 9Cal_OC

It’s gonna take a while.

Last I read, about 30-45 days out.

Pre-Covid, about 10 days.

Cheers, 9Cal. Bummer. Remember it being a relatively quick process last time.

[918JBAM]

Applied: 10/01/20
Training/Livescan - 11/15/20
Appointment/interview after checking 3 times a day - 12/30/20
Extra paperwork - 12/30/20
Still waiting for final decision - 2/22/21

[anthracite]

Originally Posted by 918JBAM

Applied: 10/01/20
Training/Livescan - 11/15/20
Appointment/interview after checking 3 times a day - 12/30/20
Extra paperwork - 12/30/20
Still waiting for final decision - 2/22/21

I check 2-3 times a day and never seen an earlier date open up.

Hopefully you get yours soon.

[pblawman]

Originally Posted by 918JBAM

Applied: 10/01/20
Training/Livescan - 11/15/20
Appointment/interview after checking 3 times a day - 12/30/20
Extra paperwork - 12/30/20
Still waiting for final decision - 2/22/21

Is there anyone that you can reach out to in order to inquire about the status? Was the "extra paperwork" to document your GC, or were there issues that needed to be resolved? There's not enough information here to decipher what's going on.

[Mike_T]

Originally Posted by 918JBAM

Applied: 10/01/20
Training/Livescan - 11/15/20
Appointment/interview after checking 3 times a day - 12/30/20
Extra paperwork - 12/30/20
Still waiting for final decision - 2/22/21

Try calling the unit to see if you can get a status update.


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[918JBAM]

Originally Posted by pblawman

Is there anyone that you can reach out to in order to inquire about the status? Was the "extra paperwork" to document your GC, or were there issues that needed to be resolved? There's not enough information here to decipher what's going on.

Yeah I needed to submit extra paperwork/pictures to support my good cause. I submitted the documents that same day after my interview. Which was on12/30…
But I got a call on February 11 from the case manager and she informed me that she was out due to COVID. I’m assuming she’s trying to catch up and I’m not the only one that was affected by her being out. She confirmed with me that all the requirements have been satisfied and will be forwarding my application to her boss for a decision. I think I’m just being impatient but at the same time I’ve seen some people post their process on Reddit and they applied after I did and received their stuff within 6 weeks. I’ve be on going on 6 months.

[918JBAM]

Originally Posted by anthracite

I check 2-3 times a day and never seen an earlier date open up.

Hopefully you get yours soon.

Thank you.

My original date was 4/25/21 but I kept checking and then got bumped up to 2/17/21. I kept on checking everyday and finally landed a closer date 12/30/20…

Don’t give up keep checking.

[WinchesterBolt]

Just out of curiosity, are the people doing the interviews and the case managers from Permitium, or OCSD? Obviously OCSD has to make the final decisions but just curious how much of the process is outsourced.

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by WinchesterBolt

Just out of curiosity, are the people doing the interviews and the case managers from Permitium, or OCSD? Obviously OCSD has to make the final decisions but just curious how much of the process is outsourced.

No outsourcing from what I know of.

OCSD handles the entire process.

[WinchesterBolt]

Originally Posted by 9Cal_OC

No outsourcing from what I know of.

OCSD handles the entire process.

Thank you, that makes sense. I guess Permitium just provides the website then.

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by WinchesterBolt

Thank you, that makes sense. I guess Permitium just provides the website then.

Correct. Many counties in CA use Permitium.

[Big Jake]

Permitium is just an online application system. They have ZERO to do with the process other than being the application platform. All requirements and decisions regarding issuance of a CCW are still under the total control of OCSD!

[Gman1008]

Did my interview 12/8/20
Uploaded additional documents 12/8/20
Emailed case manager 2/11/21, she says everything looks good just waiting on final approval
It's going on 78 days now still "we are working on your application" in Order Tracker

[Albs]

Renewal sent: 1/8/2021
Renewal approved: 2/25/21
CCW expiration: 4/10/21

[918JBAM]

Originally Posted by Gman1008

Did my interview 12/8/20
Uploaded additional documents 12/8/20
Emailed case manager 2/11/21, she says everything looks good just waiting on final approval
It's going on 78 days now still "we are working on your application" in Order Tracker

I wish they would just tell us wether or not we’ve been approved. The wait is by far the worst. I was told not to call because they are “super busy” but I’m going to ring them anyway lol going on 60 days already after interview.

[9Cal_OC]

Originally Posted by 918JBAM

I wish they would just tell us wether or not we’ve been approved. The wait is by far the worst. I was told not to call because they are “super busy” but I’m going to ring them anyway lol going on 60 days already after interview.

They are very busy. Investigating a potential CCW applicant takes time. With Covid and reduction of staff added onto the fact of the surge of applicants since May 2020, they are busy and doing the best they can.

“Far worst” is not having an option to even get a CCW (think other CA counties).

[anthracite]

Originally Posted by 918JBAM

Thank you.

My original date was 4/25/21 but I kept checking and then got bumped up to 2/17/21. I kept on checking everyday and finally landed a closer date 12/30/20…

Don’t give up keep checking.

Thank you for the encouragement.

Did you always check at the same times every day or random? I typically check once in the morning, once before bed, and sometimes once in the afternoon if I have time from work. Getting two bump ups is amazing, I'd be ecstatic with just one!

[Albs]

Originally Posted by 918JBAM

I wish they would just tell us wether or not we’ve been approved. The wait is by far the worst. I was told not to call because they are “super busy” but I’m going to ring them anyway lol going on 60 days already after interview.

Are you waiting for a conditional approval before you take your CCW training or have you sent all the required documents?