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With respect to the only while transporting issue, the latest info is that SDSO no longer issues permits with restrictions, so if you get a permit, you can carry every day.
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I asked about that and the response was "yes", majority of people get discourage and never come back for the 2nd interview. The panel would get completely swamped otherwise. The 1st interview is to help spice up the good cause statement.
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So... reading this and the SDCGO post I gather that "personal protection" is not good cause?
I was told that nobody had been denied a CCW since Sep 2017. Does anybody know how many have been issued?
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I'm very curious where you heard the information abut no denials since Sept. That may be a statistical "trick" by simply reviewing the applications at the first session and not "accepting" any that are not likely to pass.
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By whom? Best place to get the latest info on what's happening in SD Co re. CCWs is: https://www.facebook.com/SDCGO/ http://sandiegocountygunowners.com/ccw/ You should join them if you live in SD Co. If you look at their FB page, you'll see that yesterday 55 folk attended a free class on applying for a CCW w/the sheriff. That means in ~90 days, SDCGO should have a much bigger data set re. what passes for GC under Gore. Also in ~90 days is the SD Co sheriffs election where "Shall Issue" Myers is running against incumbent Sheriff Gore.
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Just my opinion but I believe the Hero of Ruby Ridge speaks with forked tongue. I love the "reasonable good cause." Sounds like "reasonable, common sense" gun control...
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I'll take "Zero" for a thousand, Alex.
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We HATE sheriffs and chiefs who use unreasonable GC requirements.
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How many of those used "personal protection" as good cause?
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I already answered that in post #46.
From the same post, I'm still waiting for you to tell us who told you there's been zero denials since Sept 2017.
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All has been said Fishkiller. Apply with all reasons others have used referencing SDCGO writings or wait and see. The fact that so many are applying now and the demeanor of the staff at the Licencing Division tells me it's the best time that I've seen for gereral public to apply in last 25 yrs. I applied 2 months ago and am waiting with no expectation as I have been denied 3X and approved 3X in past.
If you're a vulgarian with tatoos north of your clavicles and can't articulate some self defense reason it may be a throw away of $105., freedom is not free. Good luck and PM me with more specs if you like. Marcusrn
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Have a better term? The GC requirement varies in the state and "reasonable" was what we came up with. I'm always open to suggestions....
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I followed up with the clerk since it has been 30 days from submittal. He said it is still in background check. They must have a large backlog or else my background check would come back clean in 30 seconds
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Just saw this interview with Gore:
http://www.kusi.com/sheriff-bill-gor...-in-san-diego/ While he did not discuss CCW directly, he did say that he was against arming teachers because they are not trained in the same way as LEO and because LEO won't be able to identify the good guys from the bad guys at the scene of a shooting, armed civilians represent "a liability" and is "problematic". By extension, this logic would apply to almost any CCW holder situation. He must believe that any civilian with a weapon in public is a "problem". This suggests that his actual opinion has not changed and it would be reasonable to expect his recent uptick in CCW approval rates to disappear after the election. Astoundingly, the indicated that he believes a study that NYPD offers usually miss their targets represents even stronger evidence that defending our lives should be left to professional LEO and not trusted to mere citizens. The last take away is that he described CA as being at the forefront of gun laws. I was left with the impression that he never met a civilian gun restriction he did not like or he felt went too far.
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The "Hero" of Ruby Ridge is ageless....
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Cross posting some REALLY "good news" from San Diego County Gun Owners PAC:
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I called yesterday and asked cleck that I applied with on 01/12/18 about status. She said I was just approved and could get training. I had to disclose in the application that I was recently part of a lawsuit against the Sheriff. As appendix II of my application I inclosed a copy of Justice Clarence Thomas and Justice Gorsuch dissenting from denial of Certiorari for Peruta. I figure Gores a Republican and he'd want to know what the NRA is doing with hundreds of thousands of $ donated from citizens.
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Kind thanks to Michael Schwartz and all SDCGO as well as Paladin with Calguns for their tireless efforts for our civil rights.
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I second both of those. I would also add Gore's opponent in the next election, Dave Myers, to that list. I suspect that without his unequivocal stance that SD=GC, no change whatsoever would have been possible.
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Now join SDCGO to thank them. We wouldn't be where we are today without their efforts.
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It is almost impossible not to get re-elected in san diego. He will win and after 2 years retire and his deputy will be appointed. I wish the county board would put a stop to this shoe in business.
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Based on your application date it looks like turnaround is about 70 days. I did hear of one other recent person getting approval right at the 90 day mark. In either case it is good to hear positive results!
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Could you share with us any insight regarding any reasons behind the mixed results? Different GC statements? Different Sheriffs? Any rhyme or reason to this you can make out prior to your current approval?
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In 2005 the lic div did not want to give me a licence because I worked as an RN and they had not given LTC to a nurse. My application was so strong with six letters of approval from retired,reserve, and active LEO that it was embarressing to have on file. My application had various police reports of death threats from dangerous people with history and jail tatoos. I worked traveling to hospital Emergency Departments and police stations all over Orange County from 1999 until 2005 doing psychiatric evaluations. I would decide who who stay and who would go. I put people on 5150 holds and many were psychotic due to drugs. Some would refuse blood and urine draws. People who speed for 4 days and don't sleep present with same symptoms as schizophrenics in crisis. Some people with psych histories are thugs as well as folks who have drug induced psychosis. The hospital I worked out of (WestMedAnaheim) had guns taken from cops in the ER two times the last yr I worked there. One nurse shot at and patient was shot, killed and chewed on by police dog. Also West Anahiem hosp on Beach Blvd that I served had 3 staff shot and killed by an irate family member of a patient. Several SDS LIC DIV employees asked me numerous times to ****can my application and walk away and were not in the least embarassed about it. Well, thats not entirely true. The clerk(Jerry Quinlinn now retired) doing my interview let me know that my documentation was very strong and he was troubled. So what does one do, one joins the august group of Honorary Deputy Sheriffs ***. Long story short I got a flat badge and LTC. The pict below my Avatar is Sheriff Bill Kolender presenting me with a flat badge and expensive leather wallet. I renewed the LTC the next year and quit the HDSA. When I reapplied for same reasons they denied me. I joined the plaintiffs of Peruta and they said "Oh, you didn't appeal your denial". I told the Sean Brady at Michel and *** that I'd appeal and magically they gave me my 3rd LTC in late 2010 because they had egg on their uniforms. I stayed with Peruta because of the harm and disrespect I'd indured. I promised myself in 2005 that I would apply for LTC every two yrs with SDSD even if denied. There was a desk rat deputy named "Inspector"Tom Morton that I particularly disdained. He actually told me that if I didn,t throw away my app that it would be harder to get licence in the future.WAT? Yes' my head did explode! Here I am, a nurse being threatened and doing everything legal to protect myself and he has to get involved. There were civilians already telling me to go away but I wouldn't go and this guy with all the money spent training him. He could have parked outside a school and protected school children or hung out at a bank . He chose to shake down this diminutive nurse. Sworn officiers are a big deal, my wife is retired LASD, my cousin retired Asst Chief of San Bernadino PD, my Grandpa Captain Chicago and two Uncles same. It's a mean thing to shake down a civilian that goes out of their way to obey the law. I will not abide rude,servile behavior in man or maid.There I've shared my 15 minutes and even before I get the hard copy license. When you deal with people like this for 25 yrs you realize that no piece of paper is going to make a big difference. You will always be responsible for your own safety.
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SD Co could even be "dark green" since, it appears, SDCGOPAC does not know what GC won't fly with Gore and since dark green includes more than just counties that only require "SD/PP" = GC. baggss and I are discussing all this re. the map.
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Thanks for all the detailed info. So it looks like your three prior approvals were results from your membership in the HDSA. How sad that that is what it took.
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I really wonder if some CGNers would rather make a point than get a CCW.... Per my previous post quoting SDCGOPAC, they say that they know of "hundreds" that have been issued since Sept and that "not one" was denied for lack of/insufficient GC.
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I already submitted a application with self defense as good cause; it's probably sitting in a pile somewhere collecting dust.
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It's not "see, I regularly shoot and compete, therefore I'm competent with guns and should be entrusted with a CCW." That's NOT addressing GC, but training. The IA assumes if you've passed the training and pass the range test, you've got sufficient "prowess." Understand the difference?
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Does anyone know if/when the SDSO will switch to an online CCW application process and not just having the application online which you then download, print out, fill out and mail/drop off?
http://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html IMO, if SDSO doesn't go to an online process very soon, that will become a bottleneck that backs up applications and delays issuing CCWs. I think once word gets out re. the change by Gore, there's going to be a flood of applicants....
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On more than one occasion in the process I was told that the bottleneck in the process is at the end--the committee that meets on an ad hoc basis to make the actual GC determination and approval. If that is the case, unless they are going to streamline that process or devote more time to it, that will set the limit on how many applications can be processed per month, and opening the funnel wider at the beginning won't really accomplish much. If I understand, the state law requires them to decide within 90 days of getting the fingerprint results back, so if they don't improve the final step, in order to comply with the law they will have to begin delaying submittals of fingerprints or delay initial appointments. I believe I read somewhere that Riverside County is backed up close to two years.
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