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Old 12-09-2016, 9:12 PM
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Thanks, I was under the impression that the permit was a lot bigger than a standard ID slot.
Mine is slightly wider than a credit card, but substantially taller. I keep mine in a slot behind my driver's license (it's like an access area behind the ID slot with the window), secure and out of view. I just checked, and it fits in the credit card slots, but it sticks out too much because of its height. If you're not sure, just ask them to trim it down as much as possible, and then take it with you when you shop for a wallet. Mine fit nicely in the wallet I already had.
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Old 12-09-2016, 9:17 PM
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Anyone know of internal modifications are allowed by San Joaquin county for ccw weapons?

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Anyone know of internal modifications are allowed by San Joaquin county for ccw weapons?

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Not sure if theirs any official regulations, but personally don't think it a good idea because if you have to justify a shooting in court, every decision you make will be scrutinized. Including why you modified your weapon. In ccw class they said sights are OK, but nothing inside. But don't know if the county or state has any rules against.
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Old 12-10-2016, 3:59 PM
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Not sure if theirs any official regulations, but personally don't think it a good idea because if you have to justify a shooting in court, every decision you make will be scrutinized. Including why you modified your weapon. In ccw class they said sights are OK, but nothing inside. But don't know if the county or state has any rules against.
I personally think it is a mistake to go crazy modifying the inside of a CCW it most likely would come up in court even though in my thinking it has no place as an argument for non justification but a form of slandering the shooter's character.

I have done nothing to my carry... inside.

I looked for a time on that very subject and did not run across any "laws or rules" myself. However, that doesn't mean there are not any.
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I installed short reset triggers on two of my CCW guns, and an Apex Duty/Carry trigger kit on the third. All three were inspected by my CCW training instructor. All three are now better carry guns, and with better triggers, I am far less likely to pull shots and hit innocent bystanders in the unlikely event that I ever need to use them in self-defense. None of these modifications would be related in any way to the question of whether I used deadly force under a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily injury. While these internal modifications could conceivably be relevant in a case involving a negligent discharge, they are simply irrelevant to a situation involving intentional use of deadly force in self-defense.
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Old 12-10-2016, 5:29 PM
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I installed short reset triggers on two of my CCW guns, and an Apex Duty/Carry trigger kit on the third. All three were inspected by my CCW training instructor. All three are now better carry guns, and with better triggers, I am far less likely to pull shots and hit innocent bystanders in the unlikely event that I ever need to use them in self-defense. None of these modifications would be related in any way to the question of whether I used deadly force under a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily injury. While these internal modifications could conceivably be relevant in a case involving a negligent discharge, they are simply irrelevant to a situation involving intentional use of deadly force in self-defense.

I completely agree. Well said.
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I installed short reset triggers on two of my CCW guns, and an Apex Duty/Carry trigger kit on the third. All three were inspected by my CCW training instructor. All three are now better carry guns, and with better triggers, I am far less likely to pull shots and hit innocent bystanders in the unlikely event that I ever need to use them in self-defense. None of these modifications would be related in any way to the question of whether I used deadly force under a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily injury. While these internal modifications could conceivably be relevant in a case involving a negligent discharge, they are simply irrelevant to a situation involving intentional use of deadly force in self-defense.


I completely agree, and have done the same myself. Long story short, I have not been able to find a single case that has actually gone through the court system where somebody has been "challenged" regarding internal modifications like a trigger kit in their CCW. I understand why someone might be concerned that it could be used against them in court, but I'd rather be alive to have that fight in court personally...
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Old 12-11-2016, 10:10 AM
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I have the apex carry/duty trigger in mine. It's not super light, but not 7-8lbs either. I think around 4.5-5lbs.

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I installed short reset triggers on two of my CCW guns, and an Apex Duty/Carry trigger kit on the third. All three were inspected by my CCW training instructor. All three are now better carry guns, and with better triggers, I am far less likely to pull shots and hit innocent bystanders in the unlikely event that I ever need to use them in self-defense. None of these modifications would be related in any way to the question of whether I used deadly force under a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily injury. While these internal modifications could conceivably be relevant in a case involving a negligent discharge, they are simply irrelevant to a situation involving intentional use of deadly force in self-defense.
Good point. I guess as long as you don't have a negligent discharge or shoot an unintended target then you should be ok.
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Old 12-12-2016, 8:11 PM
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Default San Joaquin CCW Starting Month 14

Interview & Livescan - 11/16/2015
Investigator call to update - 10/15/2016
On Sheriff's desk - 10/31/2016
Still waiting, this week starts month 14 and 6 weeks on sheriff's desk.

Was told to expect 12 months, really expected sheriff to finish a few weeks ago.
They tell me, he's out of the office a lot lately and they are backed up.
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Old 12-12-2016, 8:53 PM
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Don't know what to tell you other than with even minor questions the Sheriff may send it back to the investigators to answer... which can slow you down on the approval process. Call Rinda Webber or Kaitlin Pearson, both are nice people.
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Interview & Livescan - 11/16/2015
Investigator call to update - 10/15/2016
On Sheriff's desk - 10/31/2016
Still waiting, this week starts month 14 and 6 weeks on sheriff's desk.

Was told to expect 12 months, really expected sheriff to finish a few weeks ago.
They tell me, he's out of the office a lot lately and they are backed up.

I was told the other day he was back logged. I am coming up on a year in a couple weeks. Got the call from the investigator on 10/31
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Old 12-15-2016, 7:10 AM
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Initial interview 9/14/15
Got "the call" 9/6/16
Interview with Sheriff 10/25/16
Approval email 11/15/16
2 yr. Permit in hand 12/14/16

Total process took 1 year and 3 months. I could have taken my training class sooner but I didn't want to risk anything given the uncertainty after meeting with the sheriff. Just relieved that I got approved and it's over with.
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Old 12-15-2016, 8:01 AM
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Old 12-16-2016, 8:06 AM
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1/4/2016 - Application/interview/livescan

10/1/2016 - took 1 day 16hr. ccw class @ Best Handgun Training in Lincoln. Highly recommended, Mike Davis was a great instructor.

11/14/2016 - Got "the call". Investigator just asked if anything has changed in the last year. Said app. going to sheriff's desk today and should get a call in a few weeks if approved.

12/7/2016 - got approval call and email

**Update**
Picked up my 2yr. permit Tuesday 12/13/16. Not a word said about me taking my ccw class 2-1/2 months early ( for those who are considering taking the class beforehand). They told me to start the renewal process 3 months before expiration.

11 months from interview to approval

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Old 12-19-2016, 9:54 PM
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Update, 13 months to the day in San Joaquin, I got the call.
Interview 11/15/2015
Investigator call 10/05/2016
Investigator complete 10/31/2016
Approval 12/15/2016
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Old 12-20-2016, 10:45 AM
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01/11/16 -Application submittal
11/03/16 - First phone interview. Interviewer needs letter from workplace and updated info on new gun. I'll keep you guys posted on the outcome.
Since my post above, I have not heard anything from the Sheriff's Office. Hopefully soon.
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Old 12-20-2016, 2:03 PM
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Someone w/a contact in the SJ CCW dept should pass along:
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/cri...121987214.html

Sacramento, San Bernardino, Fresno, Placer, and Monterey county SOs have now all gone online w/their CCW apps: initial and renewals. For Sac, this means only 1 apt for new apps and NO apts for renewals! Saves both sides time, expenses and effort.
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And you can have 5 weapons on the Sac County CCW.

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Old 12-21-2016, 8:33 AM
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Anyone else get only a 1 year initial CCW in San Joaquin?
I did have some application issues. I had a couple interactions with police in the early 80's. Not arrests, so I didn't list them. Actually completely forgot about them. On the background they show like possible arrests. Application says arrests, not discussions. No rights, no cuffs, no charges. To me not an arrest. To the background they count. I was told in the future to list them.
Would this cause me to have gotten the 1 year? Or is this the way San Joaquin does it?
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We had another member who received a 1 year license. Kind of like a probabtional period. He had issues as well I think. It's probably a couple pages back if you want to read it.

I received the standard 2 years.
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Started the process 12-28-15
Investigator call 10-31-16
Approval 12-22-16
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Anyone else get only a 1 year initial CCW in San Joaquin?
I did have some application issues. I had a couple interactions with police in the early 80's. Not arrests, so I didn't list them. Actually completely forgot about them. On the background they show like possible arrests. Application says arrests, not discussions. No rights, no cuffs, no charges. To me not an arrest. To the background they count. I was told in the future to list them.
Would this cause me to have gotten the 1 year? Or is this the way San Joaquin does it?
I got a 1 year. I think because of a few traffic tickets. All disclosed.

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I think that was their intent too, a probationary period. I don't see why though, they can take it away any time they want. It's more like a penalty, pay for 2 years and get 1 year. It should be prorated. Oh well, still got it.
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We had another member who received a 1 year license. Kind of like a probabtional period. He had issues as well I think. It's probably a couple pages back if you want to read it.

I received the standard 2 years.
I think that was their intent too, a probationary period. I don't see why though, they can take it away any time they want. It's more like a penalty, pay for 2 years and get 1 year. It should be prorated. Oh well, still got it.
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went in for my renewal today basically my investigator said i was more then likely going to get denied on my renewal.

I've had my ccw for just about 2 years at the time i worked at a gun shop doing retail since then my occupation has changed i am now a correctional office.

today i went in for my renewal filled out the application went in for the interview. my record has always been squeaky clean my reason still hasn't changed "self protection". the investigator starts asking about work making small talk asking if my views on people have changed i said no. he asked if i was able to get my ccw through work i said yes but figured what the heck I'm up for renewal might as well renew it.

(becideds the range master at work told me to keep up with my regular ccw )

my investigator tells me theirs a 99% chance ill get denied on my renewal just because i am able to get it through work. i run into parolees on the street often enough and get threatend at work on a fairly regular basis... just being a peace officer puts me at a risk of being ambushed....the fact that I'm going to get denied on my renewal just because my occupation changed is complete bull crap....is this even legal?
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Scheduled my Renewal for 1/18/17.

Current permit EXPIRES 4/1/17

Crossing my fingers everything goes fine!!
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Scheduled my Renewal for 1/18/17.

Current permit EXPIRES 4/1/17

Crossing my fingers everything goes fine!!
My renewal was approved in about 4 weeks.
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Since my post above, I have not heard anything from the Sheriff's Office. Hopefully soon.
Still haven't heard from the Sheriff's Office. Applied 01/04/16. Not sure what is going on.
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Via email, Ivan advised me to give it a little more time, as the holidays mess with the routine at the office. My app was sent up the chain eight weeks ago.
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I was able to renew yesterday. In and out in less than 20 minutes.��
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Five weeks to renew. Thank you Sheriff Moore!
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Can anyone here who's gone through the CCW renewal process in San Joaquin tell me how long they had to wait, from application to actually getting the renewed permit? Mine expires in October. Thanks.
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Can anyone here who's gone through the CCW renewal process in San Joaquin tell me how long they had to wait, from application to actually getting the renewed permit? Mine expires in October. Thanks.
My renewal was approved in 27 days. I applied 3 months before my original expires. Went down and took my certification class. Will be down to pick up my renewal on Feb 21.
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My renewal was approved in 27 days. I applied 3 months before my original expires. Went down and took my certification class. Will be down to pick up my renewal on Feb 21.
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I submitted my renewal 3 months early. Then completed the 4hr refresh training and obtained certificate. About 1 week before the expiration date I made an appointment to pick up the new permit. Keep in mind the new expiration date will be 2 years from the date you get your new one.

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Still haven't heard from the Sheriff's Office. Applied 01/04/16. Not sure what is going on.
Finally got the approval! One year and two weeks wait time.
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Can anyone here who's gone through the CCW renewal process in San Joaquin tell me how long they had to wait, from application to actually getting the renewed permit? Mine expires in October. Thanks.
To those wondering how long the renewal process is, I emailed the Sheriff and I received the following reply:

"HELLO Mr. XXXXXXX, you can call to schedule your renewal three months before expiration. Have a great week!!"
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Finally got the approval! One year and two weeks wait time.
Well, that gives me hope. I applied about a month after you. Guess, I'll just wait some more.
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I applied one week before you, dylan199, and am still waiting. Any day now, any day now, I shall be approved. Maybe the app fell off the table and behind a desk!
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