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Old 08-21-2019, 7:01 AM
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Default Commander vs Officer frame dimensions? Slides that fit?

Check the safe and forgot I had a frame that wasnít finished. I canít figure out if itís a commander or officer. Iím thinking commander but not 100%.

From the rear to dust cover itís I think 5Ē. It was about 1/4Ē shorter than the frame on a Springfield 1911 I have. That leads me to believe itís a commander and not officer.

If it is a commander, whatís the smallest slide I can put on it? Iím thinking about sourcing a complete slide/upper instead of fitting all the parts.
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Old 08-21-2019, 9:36 AM
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Commander and officer frames are around 1/4" shorter dust cover than a full size frame.
Grip screw spacing is where you can quickly measure the differences between commander and officer.
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Old 08-21-2019, 9:40 AM
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That explains it.

Will it look weird to have an officer’s slide on a commanders frame?
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Will it look weird to have an officerís slide on a commanders frame?
I don't think you can even do that due to the differences in slide rail lengths and recoil quide rod systems.
I suppose you could re-cut the rails and guide rod seat to accept officer parts though.
It would be easier to get a proper officer frame though.
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Actually I'm fairly sure you can. The rails and recoil shoulder are already cut back the .1" on the commander frame. You could run into issues on the length of the dust cover on the commander frame being too long for the officer slide, but those vary a bit by manufacturer.
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Old 08-23-2019, 10:06 AM
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^thats of course assuming you do in fact have a commander frame and not a gov frame that just had the dust cover chopped down*
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Old 08-23-2019, 2:03 PM
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I’ll measure tonight. Pretty sure it’s a commander.

My recent research show colt made a 1911 for a year two callled the Lt. Commander or something, officer slide on commander frame. Kimber has a variant. I haven’t touched the frame in a bit. I’d really prefer a 9mm Officer slide so I can run 147gr and not a super heavy 45 round.

I think certain complete para hawg 9mm slides will work.
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Old 08-23-2019, 3:35 PM
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Many manufacturers have a variant like that, with the full size grip and short slide they're put out at one point or another.
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The Para P13 frame with a Warthog 3" slide and barrel.
You will still need to cut back the VIS another .100 and also the dust cover needs trimming. I also use an extended ejector and trimmed it. And you will need one of these if you go with a 45acp.
http://www.egwguns.com/1911-parts/19...-45-acp-blued/
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I have an Essex made Detonics style frame, that I have a Colt Officer Model 45 acp slide installed on. I have also fitted a Para Ordnance Commander style slide with a 40 cal breech face to that frame. I can run 9mm, 38 Super, and 10mm with that set up.
I have played with, just to see if it could be done, mounting the Officer's slide on a standard 1911 Govt frame. It can be done, but I did not try to shoot it. It was simply and exercise in "can it be done".
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I have an original Colt Officers barrel, bushing and guide rod parts available if anyone is interested.
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