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Old 05-08-2019, 2:47 PM
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Seems all the kayak fishing threads are older... anyone here into this sport? Thinking of getting a kayak for fishing the local lakes. I doubt I'll do any ocean fishing. I was curious if you guys that have experience would share some knowledge or tips? Not looking for a $2500 peddle. Actually looking to find a good stable used one and add a trolling motor and fish finder.
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With motor it needs registration remember. If to lazy to paddle pay the price. Use sail and or peddles instead.
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With motor it needs registration remember. If to lazy to paddle pay the price. Use sail and or peddles instead.
Darn it! You're right. I thought I wouldn't but I just double checked and even if it's an electric motor it needs registered. Oh well... looking for thoughts regardless.

Edgerly did you sell that jon boat you had? That would be the only other option I see for me.
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I do a fair amount of kayak fishing and also belong to "NCKA" NorCal Kayak Anglers. Tons of up to date info on that site that you can read up on.
I mostly saltwater fish so not much help here, But I will help with any questions you may have
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I fish my kayak in mission bay in San Diego and it is a blast. So easy and quick to get on and off the water. I say do it. One piece of advice I would give. Try to get a kayak with the petals that propel the boat. I only have a paddle and so I canít fish and paddle at the same time. The petals are especially useful if there is wind or current pushing you around. You can petal to hold yourself in one place while you fish there. With the paddle I have to put it down, fish, wind blows me off the spot, then I have to pick it up and paddle back and repeat the process. Also with the peddles it is one less item to get in your way when you are fishing. Tight lines my Man.
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I do a fair amount of kayak fishing and also belong to "NCKA" NorCal Kayak Anglers. Tons of up to date info on that site that you can read up on.
I mostly saltwater fish so not much help here, But I will help with any questions you may have
Thanks I'll check it out!

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I fish my kayak in mission bay in San Diego and it is a blast. So easy and quick to get on and off the water. I say do it. One piece of advice I would give. Try to get a kayak with the petals that propel the boat. I only have a paddle and so I canít fish and paddle at the same time. The petals are especially useful if there is wind or current pushing you around. You can petal to hold yourself in one place while you fish there. With the paddle I have to put it down, fish, wind blows me off the spot, then I have to pick it up and paddle back and repeat the process. Also with the peddles it is one less item to get in your way when you are fishing. Tight lines my Man.
Problem is peddles start at $2k. I have read tons about the advantages but I cannot bring myself (or convince my wife) to spend $2k plus accessories on a plastic boat. I figure a used kayak, trolling motor and fish finder can be done for less than $1k easy and progressively. Registration is something I'm looking into and had not previously considered. Some of these kayaks do not have hull numbers thus making registration a potential pain in the neck which is not worth it to me in the long run.

Really my goal is find something to get me "in the water" for relaxation and enjoyment... also to land some hawgs, crappie and catfish.
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Once you go peddle yak you never go back.
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Check Craigslist. Lots of ohhhhh boy my buddy bought a Kayak I should get one too. Cheap Kayaks out there. Used once or Twice and sitting around for year or more.
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I do not fish from a kayak. So I can't offer specific advice on that.

However, I have been kayaking for about 17 years on lakes, oceans, and larger rivers. I have taught several people to kayak. I have paddled many boats and taken several classes. From that experience I offer:

You can probably get what you want in a used boat. There are lots of good used kayaks out there. You can save a bunch this way. Check paddle shops, craigslist, and other buy, sell, trade sites.

Paddle several kayaks before you even consider buying one. You will save a lot of money and frustration this way.

Consider taking an introduction to kayaking class. You will learn some techniques that will save your shoulders, maybe save your life, and certainly make kaying more enjoyable. You will probably meet some people who will let you try their boats.

There are some really good books on kayaking "Flat Water". If you have an interest in reading some books, I will compile a list. Again you can save your life, your shoulders, and have more fun with knowledge.

Fishing optimized kayaks seem to have some big advantages for dedicated fishing. The dedicated storage, stability, pedal drive systems, fish finders, etc. I know many people are happy with theirs. But I have also met many successful fisherman who use general purpose sit on top or sit inside kayaks and do quite well.

At first, a wide boat might lure you in with the stability it offers. But after you have developed some skill, you might be very bored with the short, wide, slow boat. With boats a longer boat offers greater speed; or another way of looking at it is efficiency. You can cover far greater distances with the same effort. I frequently see people get bored with their short, wide, ultra stable boats. They cannot cover nearly the same distance that I can.

We have "Sea Kayaks" that are about 17 feet long, sit inside, with sealed storage front and rear. They have rudders that make straight tracking in the wind or current much easier. We frequently kayak camp from them on our lakes and rivers. It is easy to carry what you need for 4 or more days. I have seen many people fish from similar kayaks. They seem to be very successful and happy with their choices.

I have helped several people find used boats at great prices. I have mostly used networking with paddlers and general ads on Craigslist for this. Kay swap meets area great way to sit inside a lot of boats and determine what might works best for you; or discover what to avoid.

Once you have a rack to transport your kayak, it becomes pretty easy to borrow, rent, demo a kayak to try.

Buy a good paddle if you go with a conventional paddle kayak. It can really make the experience more fun. Lightweight, properly sized for you, and for your activity. If you use a pedal drive kayak, carry two part paddle with you. I have seen some of these systems fail.

Wear your life jacket. Dress for the water temperature. Carry a dry bag with dry clothes. Be wary of foot entrapment in a kayak. I know people who have nearly died because they violated one of the above rules.

Have FUN! Seriously kayaks open up a new world to you. Have FUN!

DM me if you want more information.
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Yes I sod the jon boat to duck hunter he took down to salton sea to store. He has a mud motor for it Ideal for shallow water. With a mud motor you can run in 6 inches of water.
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Kayaks are cool. But if you have the room I’d look for a 15-16 Foot aluminum boat with a small four stroke.

Sort of like a motorcycle vs a car. Sure motorcycles are fun and will get you there. But sometimes you just want to chill out and eat a sandwich.
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Get a skiff. Way more fun. Kayaking can be dangerous and it’s a pain in the ***. If you feel the need, row around your skiff for a few hours and then fire up the motor and never look back.

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I have been kayak fishing for a many years and I kayak fish at least 2-3 times a week.

If you plan on doing kayak fishing for a long term then go ahead and invest in a kayak that you will use for years. If you are new to the sport then Iíd suggest borrowing a friends or rent one to try out.

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Excellent feedback from you guys! Thank you so much. My original plans were to get a small aluminum Jon boat and convert to bass boat but I realized I don't really want to leave a boat and trailer in my driveway. I have minimal storage in my garage but could fit a kayak with some rearranging and decluttering or put it behind my house under cover.

Xeng... what are you peddling? That just looks soooo relaxing. The idea of getting a kayak gives me the ability to easily go anywhere I want with minimal gear. I am strongly reconsidering a peddle yak as opposed to putting on a trolling motor. I rode road bikes for years and actually wouldn't mind peddling again plus it would give me a little exercise as well. The areas I plan to fish actually wouldn't require much effort if I decide to just paddle but I do not want to limit my range because of my paddling capability.

Any more thoughts? I love the photos too so if any of you all have pics please feel free to post them...
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I have a 10 ft aluminum jon boat. Very versatile and actually easy to store. And stable as heck.

You can lean it up against a wall of garage vert or horizontal, inside or out. Even if not fenced. You can run a cable under the seats and lock to an I bolt in wall or steel stake.

Mine I lift to ceiling of garage with sand rail under it. I-bolt in each corner of gunwal. Rope across bow and stern. 2 others from them to I bolts in ceiling joist. Raise it up....tie it off, with gear in it. Bingo done deal. Anchor and line, beer cooler, bait bucket, rods, oars etc. All overhead out of way.

I could even "walk it" to the beach a block away. [retractable wheel kit on transom] But easier for me to load into full size pick up bed and drive.
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I do not fish from a kayak. So I can't offer specific advice on that.

However, I have been kayaking for about 17 years on lakes, oceans, and larger rivers. I have taught several people to kayak. I have paddled many boats and taken several classes. From that experience I offer:

You can probably get what you want in a used boat. There are lots of good used kayaks out there. You can save a bunch this way. Check paddle shops, craigslist, and other buy, sell, trade sites.

Paddle several kayaks before you even consider buying one. You will save a lot of money and frustration this way.

Consider taking an introduction to kayaking class. You will learn some techniques that will save your shoulders, maybe save your life, and certainly make kaying more enjoyable. You will probably meet some people who will let you try their boats.

There are some really good books on kayaking "Flat Water". If you have an interest in reading some books, I will compile a list. Again you can save your life, your shoulders, and have more fun with knowledge.

Fishing optimized kayaks seem to have some big advantages for dedicated fishing. The dedicated storage, stability, pedal drive systems, fish finders, etc. I know many people are happy with theirs. But I have also met many successful fisherman who use general purpose sit on top or sit inside kayaks and do quite well.

At first, a wide boat might lure you in with the stability it offers. But after you have developed some skill, you might be very bored with the short, wide, slow boat. With boats a longer boat offers greater speed; or another way of looking at it is efficiency. You can cover far greater distances with the same effort. I frequently see people get bored with their short, wide, ultra stable boats. They cannot cover nearly the same distance that I can.

We have "Sea Kayaks" that are about 17 feet long, sit inside, with sealed storage front and rear. They have rudders that make straight tracking in the wind or current much easier. We frequently kayak camp from them on our lakes and rivers. It is easy to carry what you need for 4 or more days. I have seen many people fish from similar kayaks. They seem to be very successful and happy with their choices.

I have helped several people find used boats at great prices. I have mostly used networking with paddlers and general ads on Craigslist for this. Kay swap meets area great way to sit inside a lot of boats and determine what might works best for you; or discover what to avoid.

Once you have a rack to transport your kayak, it becomes pretty easy to borrow, rent, demo a kayak to try.

Buy a good paddle if you go with a conventional paddle kayak. It can really make the experience more fun. Lightweight, properly sized for you, and for your activity. If you use a pedal drive kayak, carry two part paddle with you. I have seen some of these systems fail.

Wear your life jacket. Dress for the water temperature. Carry a dry bag with dry clothes. Be wary of foot entrapment in a kayak. I know people who have nearly died because they violated one of the above rules.

Have FUN! Seriously kayaks open up a new world to you. Have FUN!

DM me if you want more information.
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Get a skiff. Way more fun. Kayaking can be dangerous and it’s a pain in the ***. If you feel the need, row around your skiff for a few hours and then fire up the motor and never look back.
Worst advice ever....


Kayaks can be a breeze and extremely safe if you actually know what you’re doing.

Kayak fishing is awesome OP. Nothing like hooking into a monster sturgeon and getting towed around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjpo3qBAWQc


Make sure you get a sit on top. I know you don’t want a fancy peddle but they are awesome...

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Although I have a boat now, I kayak fished for over 10 years here in SoCal. 90% was ocean. Local Kelp beds from La Jolla to PV. I actually had 2 kayaks. My main ride was a Cobra Fish n Dive. Great boat, super stable and dry ride, but a b#@ch to paddle into the wind. Since I'm in the metal fab business, I outfitted it with an alum bait tank, and a Minn Kota trolling motor. I also had a color fishfinder w/GPS as well as running lights for night runs and lobstering. I can tell you only once did anyone ever tell me I needed CF numbers..Coasties & harbor patrol could care less. I killed a lot of big fish with that rig and fish many of the same spots now with my boat. The only downside to that rig was, when loaded with battery (Optima blue top) and gear, you could not safely beach launch. That's why I bought a 2nd, lighter& faster Yak...A Malibu Pro-ex. It was no where near as stable as the cobra, but it was fast so beach launching thru the breakers was a breeze. It also made a good buddy boat for anyone that wanted to join me.
How do you plan to transport it? I have a full sized bed pickup and I just lowered the tailgate and thew them in the bed with a red hankerchief tied to the bow..perfectly legal. If you don't have a truck, you need to add the cost of racks...they can be as much as the boat.
So my advice to you is to try a few yaks out at a rental place and see what feels good to you. Then hunt around & buy used (also most rental places sell their old boats cheap). Angryoldmans comments were very good. 1st thing you need to buy is a manually inflatable life vest..do not get the auto inflates unless you want to have to buy a $20 recharge kit everytime you get real wet (you will). 2nd thing (as AOM said) is invest in a good, light, carbon fiber paddle.These are pricless out there. I good source to look is the classifieds on Bigwatersedge.com......Good luck in your yaking adventures and feel free to PM me with any questions....especially about rigging a motor.
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I highly recommend a Viking Profish Reload. Best combination I've found of speed, stability, and gear/fish storage. Look up some videos showing the Tackle Pod, stores all your gear, including fishfinder, battery and transducer and all comes out of the kayak at once. I regularly load mine down with 100lbs of fish plus all the the gear.
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I highly recommend a Viking Profish Reload. Best combination I've found of speed, stability, and gear/fish storage. Look up some videos showing the Tackle Pod, stores all your gear, including fishfinder, battery and transducer and all comes out of the kayak at once. I regularly load mine down with 100lbs of fish plus all the the gear.
Nice looking yak. Iív Never seen one out here though.
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I have a 10 ft aluminum jon boat. Very versatile and actually easy to store. And stable as heck.

You can lean it up against a wall of garage vert or horizontal, inside or out. Even if not fenced. You can run a cable under the seats and lock to an I bolt in wall or steel stake.

Mine I lift to ceiling of garage with sand rail under it. I-bolt in each corner of gunwal. Rope across bow and stern. 2 others from them to I bolts in ceiling joist. Raise it up....tie it off, with gear in it. Bingo done deal. Anchor and line, beer cooler, bait bucket, rods, oars etc. All overhead out of way.

I could even "walk it" to the beach a block away. [retractable wheel kit on transom] But easier for me to load into full size pick up bed and drive.
A Jon boat isn't completely out of the question but these yaks sure look like fun!!

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Worst advice ever....


Kayaks can be a breeze and extremely safe if you actually know what youíre doing.

Kayak fishing is awesome OP. Nothing like hooking into a monster sturgeon and getting towed around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjpo3qBAWQc


Make sure you get a sit on top. I know you donít want a fancy peddle but they are awesome...
Definitely getting a SOT! Is that your video? Crazy stuff!!

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Although I have a boat now, I kayak fished for over 10 years here in SoCal. 90% was ocean. Local Kelp beds from La Jolla to PV. I actually had 2 kayaks. My main ride was a Cobra Fish n Dive. Great boat, super stable and dry ride, but a b#@ch to paddle into the wind. Since I'm in the metal fab business, I outfitted it with an alum bait tank, and a Minn Kota trolling motor. I also had a color fishfinder w/GPS as well as running lights for night runs and lobstering. I can tell you only once did anyone ever tell me I needed CF numbers..Coasties & harbor patrol could care less. I killed a lot of big fish with that rig and fish many of the same spots now with my boat. The only downside to that rig was, when loaded with battery (Optima blue top) and gear, you could not safely beach launch. That's why I bought a 2nd, lighter& faster Yak...A Malibu Pro-ex. It was no where near as stable as the cobra, but it was fast so beach launching thru the breakers was a breeze. It also made a good buddy boat for anyone that wanted to join me.
How do you plan to transport it? I have a full sized bed pickup and I just lowered the tailgate and thew them in the bed with a red hankerchief tied to the bow..perfectly legal. If you don't have a truck, you need to add the cost of racks...they can be as much as the boat.
So my advice to you is to try a few yaks out at a rental place and see what feels good to you. Then hunt around & buy used (also most rental places sell their old boats cheap). Angryoldmans comments were very good. 1st thing you need to buy is a manually inflatable life vest..do not get the auto inflates unless you want to have to buy a $20 recharge kit everytime you get real wet (you will). 2nd thing (as AOM said) is invest in a good, light, carbon fiber paddle.These are pricless out there. I good source to look is the classifieds on Bigwatersedge.com......Good luck in your yaking adventures and feel free to PM me with any questions....especially about rigging a motor.
Excellent advise and input and all things have been considered. I'm planning another $500-$1000 for PFD, paddle, anchor, fish finder, and accessories to set the yak up the way I want it but all that can be done over time.

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I highly recommend a Viking Profish Reload. Best combination I've found of speed, stability, and gear/fish storage. Look up some videos showing the Tackle Pod, stores all your gear, including fishfinder, battery and transducer and all comes out of the kayak at once. I regularly load mine down with 100lbs of fish plus all the the gear.
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Myself and others have mentioned "anchors". Another advantage of a J-boat anchor is inexpensive procurement of same.

Mine was free as a "pick-up" from a construction sight. But here is a pic of a replacement. For a very reasonable price.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Angelus-...0400/100318647


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In all my years of Kayak fishing, the thought of paddling around an anchor never entered my mind...you want to keep as light as you can. Of course, the majority of my outings were in the ocean and I had been known to tie off on a kelp stringer to stay in place.
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For the guys that ocean fish in a Kayak.

Any interesting stories about big sharks?


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For the guys that ocean fish in a Kayak.

Any interesting stories about big sharks?


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The only sharks I ever saw were Threshers..never saw a white (thank god) I did run up the back of a whale once. I also had a baby seal hitch a ride. Here are a few pics of my old rig.
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The only sharks I ever saw were Threshers..never saw a white (thank god) I did run up the back of a whale once. I also had a baby seal hitch a ride. Here are a few pics of my old rig.
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nope, see my post #18
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For the guys that ocean fish in a Kayak.

Any interesting stories about big sharks?


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I’ve done a ton of diving off my kayak. About 5 minutes after getting out of the water and starting to paddle back my buddy next to me started freaking out. White had come up right underneath me to check me out. Nothing crazy, just sunk back down out of sight.

Although watching my buddy try to board some random guys boat who was crabbing almost in tears was pretty great.
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This looks fun! Will also be trying to get into kayak fishing this year, hopefully!
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For the guys that ocean fish in a Kayak.

Any interesting stories about big sharks?


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Biggest shark I've caught out of a kayak was a big blacktip that looked like it was pushing about 7ft. I was jigging trying to catch some bait, and was reeling in a small fish. I had it at the surface towards the front of my kayak when the shark came up out of the water chasing the fish on my line. It missed the fish, and landed in the water right next to the kayak. Could have reached out and touched it from my seat. Then it came and grabbed a bare hook that was dangling above the water from a rod that was in a rod holder behind my seat. Fought it about 25 mins before I got it back to the kayak.
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Choices today... tandem 12' Hobie Kona kayak with hole in it for $300

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12' Jon boat with 5hp motor and trailer $400???????
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Well unless you really like to work out I suggest the Jon boat. A lot of these responses are tailored to ocean fishing off yaks. Lake fishing I find different as you need to cover lots of ground and a yak isn’t best for that. Can’t tell you how many times the other side of the lake was biting better.

I have a nice ocean yak and it’s fun don’t get me wrong but I prefer it for diving rather than trying to fish off it.
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Because beerman was never cited or forced to register yak with a motor that makes it ok to not register I guess. Fail in his post #18.
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Let me add this
Rent first. If you have Bad back your gonna find this type of fishing is painful
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Since he 5hp is a 2 stroke watch where you can use it. I have 2- 4 strokes on my boat. Yamaha 4hp for trolling and a mercury 60 for power. I have 10" yak and an inflatable 2 person yak as well. Just sold my 12' jon boat on trailer for 400bucks. Kept my trolling motor may use it in mexico for yak fishing.

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