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I mean either way. If he receives them during a potential stay that he asked for... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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gov newsom over reaches and tries taking all HCMs... judge Benetiz smacks him with a no nonsense 2A judgement making all mags legal to own, manufacture, acquire. gov newsom "whoops my bad lets go back to before i tried to take everything.." |
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The very *best* part about all these magazines having been bought up, is that the overwhelming majority of them are coming in from out-of-state - which means the state will see but a scant portion of the sales tax that would have been collected had the magazines been sold in state.
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I've turned this into a news thread, lets keep discussion to a minimum and keep it clean and tidy. Report new developments or media stories, etc.
If you want to discuss this go to the discussion thread. If you want to see a list of retailers go to this thread.
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I'm just saying... if he does grant the stay, he is admitting that LCMs pose a public threat and should be banned. That's the AG's entire argument for the stay. By granting the stay, the judge must concede that point. |
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I still don't understand what the basis is for the appeal? Is it just, I don't like your decision so I appeal? What is claimed to be wrong or amiss with the decision that warrants an appeal?
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So if a person has mail incoming should they buy a hurricane door from Florida and install it expecting a visit. seems like the DOJ is stark crazy mad and wants blood. Can anyone gage how butt hurt nesome and the AG's office are? Their social feed has been kind of quiet and the normal liberal rags have been silent. (the trace, mothers, giffords)
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The way I see it, Gavin/Becerra are young and ambitious enough to lay it all out on the line for the glory... in Gavin's words... "be bold."
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Question for the legal eagles. What keeps benitez from allowing a stay without any teeth. This is hard to articulate, but could Benitez say "stay granted to allow the enforcement of no part of the penal code." Essentially he'd call it a stay, but it's not a stay. He could even be more direct like stay granted but the citizens shall be free to acquire, buy, sell, x, y, z."
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We should start a drive collecting all the 10 round magazines that have been replaced with free state magazines. We than place small “Join the NRA” sticker on them and place them all around the state capital under our 1st Amendment rights as free speech.
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The irony.
This idiot law to get rid of mags has them flooding into the state. From their perspective, they really should have left well enough alone. Biggest gun control fail ever.
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This is so funny
When the law banning possession became law, the plaintiff sought an injunction arguing the need to preserve the status quo.. the state argued against it. Now with this new judgment the state is requesting a stay to preserve that same status quo they argued against before and the plaintiffs are arguing against it. Lol
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You sir have said it the best. I can only pray to God for Judge Benitez to read your post.
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Can I convert a 10 round mag into a 30 round mag? I have a Hexmag that I can remove the limiter and replace the spring with a longer 30 round spring and it is now high capacity. Is this allowed or do I have to purchase a manufactured high capacity magazine?
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As I understand the ruling, yes, you can do that now. It is now standard capacity, btw, not high capacity. Do not use the (misleading, dishonest) legal terms if you can.
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Otherwise they will just keep adding more nuisance laws, more parts laws, etc. If you believe every single one of these PCs must be litigated before any relief can be had, then I’m not even sure why we bother fighting them. Because they aren’t going to stop until there is a Come to Jesus moment - and if this Duncan ruling isn’t one then I don’t know what will ever be. Last edited by SkyHawk; 04-01-2019 at 10:57 PM.. |
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Hear hear!! Going around, completely legal following the laws, but somehow followed by some uneasy feeling that you are doing something wrong.
It's disgusting. Another persecuted minority. I never feel that way when I'm at my home in Arizona. |
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EDIT: some things were posted as I was typing...I must have bought my springs and base plates after they changed the law...I'm glad I did but that jive about no parts at all ... what bs! I'm glad we are finally making headway against bad laws. Last edited by Sputnik; 04-01-2019 at 11:08 PM.. |
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