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I read in another thread the signature verification was intense and only half are good so far. Of course democrats care about signature verification suddenly. Magic!
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All for Larry Elder but doubtful he'd take the position. Would also consider John Cox, but who knows want to read more about his proposed policies first.

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Yeah... um, pretty sure signature verification on recall petitions has always been a thing.
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Yeah... um, pretty sure signature verification on recall petitions has always been a thing.
Pretty sure CessnaDriver is making a comparison to the lack of accountability in the voter registration and election process, to the stringent signature verification requirements of the recall petition process. But you already knew that, didn't you.
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As reported by Newsweek on Saturday... Gavin Newsom Edges Toward Recall as Officials Accept More Than 80 Percent of Signatures

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More than 668,000 signatures have been accepted by California Secretary of State Shirley Weber as valid in the latest recall campaign aimed at unseating Newsom. Under California state law, 1,495,709 valid signatures are required by March 17 in order to get the recall on the ballot. That number makes up 12 percent of the 12,464,235 votes cast in the previous gubernatorial election and is being closed in on by the nearly 1.1 million signatures that have already been submitted as of February 5, the Los Angeles Times reports. More than 296,000 of the 1.1 million turned in simply haven't been reviewed by election officials across the state's 58 counties.

Compared to past California recall efforts where signature verification only hovered between 40 and 60 percent, this latest recall effort has seen election officials verifying more than 80 percent of the submitted signatures. At least 130,108 signatures have been deemed invalid during the review process...
I'm not up to speed on the deadlines. Do the 1.5 - 2 million signatures organizers claim to have or are about to achieve have to simply be submitted by 3/17 or must they be submitted and verified by 3/17? If it's the latter, could the SoS simply 'slow walk' the verification process to run out the clock?
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Major Williams is who I would like to see voted in as the next Governor of California.
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Any updates? Last I heard they had 1.8 million collected but not verified. With about 2 weeks to go I'd think 2 million is quite possible.
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That is odd because the news was reporting yesterday that they were at 1.9million and 1.5 were verified, which meant there was enough to be submitted but the organizers were going to collect until the last minute to make sure as some of the verified would be contested.
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WHat's this I'm hearing about Christine Pelosi and the dems have a back up plan to get Newscum to step down if they think the recall will go through?

https://www.politico.com/states/cali...ret-it-1369438

""...In September, he could be doing great and we’ll proceed," said Democratic political strategist Christine Pelosi, daughter of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. "But if he’s really underwater, it may be that no Democrat could win. Then, he should step down as governor and Eleni Kounalakis should be the governor, and they should cancel the election. In that case, the Democratic Party would retain the governorship.""
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WHat's this I'm hearing about Christine Pelosi and the dems have a back up plan to get Newscum to step down if they think the recall will go through?

https://www.politico.com/states/cali...ret-it-1369438

""...In September, he could be doing great and we’ll proceed," said Democratic political strategist Christine Pelosi, daughter of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. "But if he’s really underwater, it may be that no Democrat could win. Then, he should step down as governor and Eleni Kounalakis should be the governor, and they should cancel the election. In that case, the Democratic Party would retain the governorship.""
If they pull that crap, I hope it bites them in the @z$ in 2022.
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WHat's this I'm hearing about Christine Pelosi and the dems have a back up plan to get Newscum to step down if they think the recall will go through?

https://www.politico.com/states/cali...ret-it-1369438

""...In September, he could be doing great and we’ll proceed," said Democratic political strategist Christine Pelosi, daughter of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. "But if he’s really underwater, it may be that no Democrat could win. Then, he should step down as governor and Eleni Kounalakis should be the governor, and they should cancel the election. In that case, the Democratic Party would retain the governorship.""
There's a lot of "should" type of assumptions in that theory, and as we know what politicians should do vs what they actually do often conflicts.

Perhaps D still retain control, but I think it's premature to even think about his replacement. It's like thinking about how to do the PAT when the touchdown is still uncertain.
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Would not put it past the Radical Leftists to attempt anything immoral and illegal to 'save' Newscum. Time will tell what will happen. Whom do you suggest should replace him?
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I remember when I was fooled by the Schwarzenegger 'Total Recall' lol, never again . . It might annoy Newsom personally to be recalled but whoever is elected in CA with the numerous shady voting practices installed today , it'll be another psycho puppet

We're not turning this around at the voting station, we've only gone backwards through policy the past 30+ years or stalemated something that was later implemented.
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I remember when I was fooled by the Schwarzenegger 'Total Recall' lol, never again . . It might annoy Newsom personally to be recalled but whoever is elected in CA with the numerous shady voting practices installed today , it'll be another psycho puppet

We're not turning this around at the voting station, we've only gone backwards through policy the past 30+ years or stalemated something that was later implemented.
Stalemate is better than nothing, at least the Dems might lose momentum for a while.
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According to a poll done, over 50% of those asked would still vote for Newsom in a recall election.

https://www.kcra.com/article/new-pol...ction/35990997

I can't tell if people here in California are confused, dumb, or still like living under tyranny. Hell, Davis was recalled for a legitimate but lesser of a reason!

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According to a poll done, over 50% of those asked would still vote for Newsom in a recall election.

https://www.kcra.com/article/new-pol...ction/35990997

I can't tell if people here in California are confused, dumb, or still like living under tyranny. Hell, Davis was recalled for a legitimate but lesser of a reason!
All of the above, sadly.
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That is sad and ridiculous. I hope the poll is skewed to discourage us form voting him out.
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According to a poll done, over 50% of those asked would still vote for Newsom in a recall election.

https://www.kcra.com/article/new-pol...ction/35990997

I can't tell if people here in California are confused, dumb, or still like living under tyranny. Hell, Davis was recalled for a legitimate but lesser of a reason!
Aside from not having a clearly laid-out plan for Newsom's replacement, such... uh... 'thinking' on the part of the majority of California voters is part of why I'm suspicious that the whole 'recall' thing is simply someone's idea to 'slow down' the "fundamental changes." For instance...

Newsom asked for a fracking ban. He may get more than he bargained for with ambitious plan

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With his future on the line, Newsom might be reluctant to cross California’s trade unions, an influential force in Democratic politics, and voters in the oil-rich San Joaquin Valley.

“The problem with the recall is that it becomes quite distracting,” said Kathryn Phillips, director of Sierra Club California, who supports the legislation. “It’s one way of essentially shutting down activity and so I worry that, not just for the fracking bill, but that everything is going to be hard to get done this year.”...
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it yet. ...or maybe I missed it?

Gov. Gavin Newsom to face recall election as Republican-led effort hits signature goal

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ecall-election
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Don't forget, according to the pollsters Trump would never be elected president. As for me, Caitlin is the one.... That would really be one for the lib's: first trans governor and a Republican to boot....

After all, Arnie did a better job than most of them...
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There is a map in this piece (posted last night)... Newsom recall: What happens next with California's recall process for governor... showing where support for the recall is strongest. Let's just say that the recall petition didn't garner the best percentage voters that provided signatures from the population centers. That doesn't necessarily mean the overall numbers aren't there; but, it's not necessarily promising either.

What still has me concerned is the lack of a solid alternative. As NPR observes...

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The only time a California petition succeeded in forcing a gubernatorial recall election was in 2003, when Democratic Gov. Gray Davis was removed and Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger was elected to replace him. There were 135 names on the replacement ballot, and many are expected again should Newsom face a recall.

Several candidates have already declared themselves, most recently Republican Caitlyn Jenner, the 1976 Olympic decathlon gold medalist, reality television star and transgender rights activist. CapRadio reports that others include former San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulconer, businessman John Cox and former U.S. Rep. Doug Ose, all Republicans...
The AP is a bit more pointed...

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...Republicans running to replace Newsom include former San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulconer and reality TV star and former Olympic decathlon champion Caitlyn Jenner, who has never run for elected office. Businessman John Cox, who lost badly to Newsom in 2018, and former Congressman Doug Ose, also are running...
The point is not to get your hopes set too high. Remember, there are two questions... 1.) Newsom goes, Yes/No, (2.) If #1 is "Yes," who replaces him? That's two hurdles, not just one. Without a viable replacement, it might be difficult to get a "Yes" to the first question. While "anyone but Newsom" might work for most of us, the issue would be whether it works for the majority of voters in this State.
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Isn't today the day the counties verify their recall signatures and the state declares the recall is on? I've been monitoring the news during the day and nothing. I thought there was something significant about today (29th) in relation to the recall.
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Today was the final day for counties to certify their counts Secretary of State Calendar.

Easily enough signatures, recall electioneering is in process.
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Easily enough signatures, recall electioneering is in process.
some commie judge will block it ... watch
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Well, I guess the recall process is not popular with the Left, at least here in California...

Letters to the Editor: Recall foes are seriously mistaken if they think Newsom can coast to victory

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To the editor: Nicholas Goldberg’s column predicting that recall elections may become a permanent Republican strategy in California is flawed in several respects.

First, even if the recall mechanism isn’t perfect, it serves as a last-resort voter tool to remind our politicians that they ultimately report to the people.

Second, Goldberg implies that qualifying a recall for the ballot is easy...

Third, Goldberg says that the recall could cost the state up to $400 million...

...if Senate Bill 10, which would end single-family zoning in much of the state, makes it to Newsom’s desk and he signs it before the election, even Democrats and independents who are homeowners will take a hard look at voting yes. This is one wildcard that recall foes aren’t considering.

You can’t just blame the recall exclusively on Republican extremists...
Naturally, 2 of the 3 letters were negative...

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... It would be reasonable that those who want to remove Newsom from office should pay for this election. Why should those who do not want to recall our governor have to pay for it?...

...I thought he missed one simple change that would reduce the appeal to Republicans of pursuing recalls.

Instead of having a simultaneous election on whether the governor should be recalled and who should replace the governor if more than 50% vote to remove him, just hold the yes-or-no recall vote. If the governor is recalled, the elected lieutenant governor would fill the vacancy to become the new governor...
Unfortunately, at least for me, the link in the first letter to the Goldberg column is hidden by a paywall.
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Newsome will survive, he'll then cite a vindication and claim a mandate. Having gotten past the recall he'll feel embolden to do almost anything he wants.

Winning the recall will become a badge of honor, the martyr who made it through. There will not be a recognition that a significant portion of the population wanted him gone only that those that did had taken their best shot and they've had their say.

Around that time some portion of the trillions will hit and some roads will get paved, your neighbors will be down at the car dealership looking to buy an EV and all the masks will be off. For many, Newsome getting past the recall will be like a breath of fresh air until the next big fire.

That was always the risk of the recall, if it didn't work whatever was seen as bad will only go faster and father in that direction. Its like the speeder doing 120 and the cop chasing them runs out of gas, the radio doesn't work and there is nothing but 20 miles of straight road ahead. Think they'd slow down and go back and say "You know what? I was wrong, give me the ticket and I'll slow down"
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Not sure if this was answered already, but why is there such a long period of time between the recall vote being certified, and the actual recall election happening? I'm hearing September???

By then, yes, everything SharedShots said will have become true, and Californian's will have largely forgotten exactly why they were mad at Newsom in the first place.

Politics is fickle...
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The recall election, not counting the cost to the State of certifying signatures and handling paperwork, will be close to $400,000,000. Four hundred million dollars... what a waste. That money could go to such better uses, since Newsom will survive the recall, obviously.
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The democrats control the entire state government. He's been doing what he wants anyway.
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The recall election, not counting the cost to the State of certifying signatures and handling paperwork, will be close to $400,000,000. Four hundred million dollars... what a waste. That money could go to such better uses, since Newsom will survive the recall, obviously.
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The recall election, not counting the cost to the State of certifying signatures and handling paperwork, will be close to $400,000,000. Four hundred million dollars... what a waste. That money could go to such better uses, since Newsom will survive the recall, obviously.


$400 mil for a recall vs. $30 billion in EDD fraud. scott peterson got unemployment money before actual people needing it.


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Newscum is now openly bribing Californians. Newscum Proposes More Stimulus Checks.
https://www.npr.org/2021/05/10/99562...timulus-checks
Well, from the story you linked, it's state law requiring he send the money back. In this case, at least, he's doing his job.
"State law requires that taxpayers get a rebate when a budget surplus hits a certain size, which has only happened once in California in more than 40 years. A spokesperson for the California Department of Finance said the numbers for this year's state budget won't be finalized until 2023."
I'm no fan of Newsom, but the recall is an utter waste of money which will fail to remove the governor. Indeed, as others have noted, it will embolden him and he'll claim his victory as a mandate.
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Do others think Newscum will beat the recall efforts? If so is it partly attributed to the lack of a viable candidate?
How I see it and I hope I'm wrong: He beats the recall easily. The reason is simple, when you take away things from people they initially become concerned and then later on some of then become angry. Its the angry ones that go to action and that is where the recall originated. Some of the concerned will also join in figuring why not? Who knows, someone better might come along.

So the takers take and take and take until the drum beats get real loud signaling the tolerance for having things taken away has been reached. Then it happens, something like a recall or whatever. The astute politicians (and no one can say in this case they aren't good tea leaf readers) then start to incrementally give back some little things. Ahhhhh, relief. The concerned group gets a hint of fresh air and thinks: see, it was only temporary and things are going to go back to as before which wasn't perfect but wasn't any worse than they voted for in the first place. Politicians know exactly when to let the air out of the expanding balloon.

So he beats the recall. Getting signatures on a petition isn't close to getting actual votes because a significant percentage of the people signing petitions like the ones donating to some cause in a grocery store only do so at the moment and aren't really passionate about the whole process or cause anyway, they are the jellos, the ones who go with the flow. They are never the ones at the ends of the spectrum getting hammered they are always in the middle somewhere flicking their flippers so they don't get too close to the rocks and get beached nor too far out to sea where they might eat eaten by the sharks.

I'd be happy to be wrong on this but right now more people are just wanting to take off their masks and guess what? While the CDC has given new guidance California and the counties have not. What happened to the science? The science of winning votes is very alive and well. Newsome will make an announcement at the perfect time telling everyone that they can now run around mask free and better yet, their kids will be in school full time in the fall. Well hells bells, what more could a concerned voter want than that? Just imagine getting to sit around at Starbucks sucking another triple pump, 4 squeeze, spit in the cup latte for hours on end happily watching Youtube videos and posting on Fantasybook for free courtesy of the wide open WiFi. Anyone think they are going to support the recall even if they signed a petition?

What does any candidate have to offer? They can't give back what Newsome took and none of them say they will. Newsome on the other hand already has a list of what he took and giving back 25% or even less secures his position. It doesn't matter that there is still 75% gone. When you are thirsty and your throat is parched that first little sip of water is so sweet isn't it? Not so fast, don't drink it all at once, have a little, more is on the way.

All you have to do is look where the petitions were, mostly in places where latte slurpers dare not go because their flip-flops might not protect their delicate toes. You know, places like sporting goods stores, guns shops, anything to do with hammers and 2x4s (you gotta love the people wearing flipflops in a hardware store). A significant percentage of the people who signed were just angry and why not just sign the recall, yeaaaaa, I did something - woo woo woo!!!!

California isn't ready for a recall and its too bad because there is far worse to come and then no one is going to have the stomach to go that route again. The recall was meant for when things hit rock bottom so that there can be a lasting change. There was none with Schwarzenegger and there won't be this time either even if Newsome gets ousted.

A drug addict doesn't stop using until they hit rock bottom and realize just what happens if they don't stop. Ever hear of a druggie who having started drugs and gotten into it before the really bad things happen decided to clean up? It rarely happens. So far Californians are all on some drug, the drug of government checks, promises of free housing and college and the drug of thinking socialism is the way to go and their party and guy are the golden path to get there. They aspire to be the model picture of the smiling couple sitting on a redwood deck over looking the ocean with the never empty glass of wine in their hands as they wait for their beach friends to show up with a bad of Lobster tails while junior gets to smoke his dope while he tunes into the latest Fortnite video and nothing and no one is getting in the way of that, especially some recall. It doesn't matter one bit who the opposing candidates are because not one of them can offer better than the promise of a politician.

California has to hit rock bottom before a recall can work. What did the last one accomplish? Nothing. No mater how bad it seems, rock bottom is a lot farther down.
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Well, from the story you linked, it's state law requiring he send the money back. In this case, at least, he's doing his job.
"State law requires that taxpayers get a rebate when a budget surplus hits a certain size, which has only happened once in California in more than 40 years. A spokesperson for the California Department of Finance said the numbers for this year's state budget won't be finalized until 2023."
I'm no fan of Newsom, but the recall is an utter waste of money which will fail to remove the governor. Indeed, as others have noted, it will embolden him and he'll claim his victory as a mandate.
Your quoted law says taxpayers get a rebate, not to hand out FSA stimulus checks to lower income citizens and illegals.
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Agree with SharedShots. My take the only ways Newscum gets recalled is if Kamala sees him as a threat in 2024 or DNC sees him as a liability and engineer a backstabbing.
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