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Old 05-06-2021, 11:42 PM
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SGAmmo should go on the WILL NOT SHIP list.
This is very old news.
Like years old.
SGAmmo has not shipped to CA since the ammo shipping prohibition law went into effect.

They are not on the list with their name crossed out as those crossed-out companies are the companies that DID ship to 03/coe and then STOPPED shipping later.
SGAmmo refised to ship from the start so they never got on the list at all.

The list of companies that would never ship is not in this thread of kept anywhere because it's basically all the companies that are not on this list.
Perhaps if you think it would be helpful, you can start such a list in a new thread and then maintain it every week or two in perpetuity.

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I have been trying to compile a list of "Unfriendly" ammo vendor who will not ship ammo to CA.
Some have have been made aware that an FFL03 + CoE exemption exists but will not alter their policies.
Some simply refuse to ship to CA to individuals holding a current FFL03 + CoE.
The below list is not exhaustive. Keep in mind I have not tried to personally confirmed the validity of each vendor.
I'll try to keep this list updated. Feel free to PM me if you want to add an "Unfriendly vendor" to this list.
Also please feel free to PM to update me if any on this list should not be there or have changed their policy.

BELOW VENDORS WILL NOT SHIP TO FFL03 + COE INDIVIDUALS IN CA (VENDORS MADE AWARE OF THE EXEMPTION ARE NOTED "MA"):

MIDWAY USA "MA" (confirmed by Agent Akin)

BOTACH "MA" (confirmed by lweinlan)

IMPACTGUNS "MA" (confirmed by lweinlan)

OPTICS PLANET "MA" (will NOT answer emails about shipping to FFL03 + CoE CA customers.)

TACTICAL SHT (confirmed by Flanders)

DVOR (confirmed by Flanders)

OPTICSandAMMO, LLC is a SCAM - cash, money order, Zelle only for ammo sales but will never ship (see BBB reviews)

ATLANTIC FIREARMS (confirmed by AbrahamBurden)
please add Rainier Arms to the no ship, below is the email reply
"Unfortunately, we are not able to ship ammunition to an 03 FFL even with a COE, because the CA DOJ does not provide a way to verify the validity of a COE. We can ship to an 01 or an 07 FFL."

Scott Wagner - Customer Support Manager
Rainier Arms, LLC - "Pursue Your Passion™"
4611 E. 31st S. Wichita, KS 67210
P.253.218.2999 / F.253.218.2998

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Old 05-07-2021, 3:13 PM
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please add Rainier Arms to the no ship, below is the email reply
"Unfortunately, we are not able to ship ammunition to an 03 FFL even with a COE, because the CA DOJ does not provide a way to verify the validity of a COE. We can ship to an 01 or an 07 FFL."

Scott Wagner - Customer Support Manager
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There is no "will not ship" list.
Maybe you and syn-ack-bang could team up to set one up in a new thread and manage it though.
Thanks for helping all the people that need a list of places they can't do business with in case they ever want to not do business with them.

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There is no "will not ship" list.
Maybe you and syn-ack-bang could team up to set one up in a new thread and manage it though.
Thanks for helping all the people that need a list of places they can't do business with in case they ever want to not do business with them.
This has been hashed out previously so I put a link in the OP to a post that a member is maintaining - not sure when the last time it was updated.
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Member lweinlan will be keeping a running list of VENDORS CONFIRMED WHO WILL NOT SHIP TO FFL03 + COE INDIVIDUALS IN CA. You may view this in THIS POST.
Maybe PM lweinlan for NO GO vendors?
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Thanks for confirming that they are still good to go. Good to get feedback on successess.
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Tactical **** will ship to CA. I just got an order in
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I confirmed that Ammo & More NC (north carolina) will ship to 03 FFL + COE. www.ammoandmorenc.com.
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Top Gun Supply and Outdoor Limited wil ship. I just sent them my renewed certs
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Creedmoor Sports says they'll ship to CA FFL:

https://www.creedmoorsports.com/Ammunition_Restrictions

Just placed an order then spoke to them on the phone. They said to just email a copy of FFL along with order number. I attached my newly minted COE as well though they were a little unclear on that requirement.

I assume your order went through without issue?

I just called them to clarify and they said it has to go to an actual store. Could just be the person I spoke to?
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Sorry to hear about SGAmmo, they were my goto ammo guys before the no shipping ammo law the CLOWNS put in place. But I will buy from SGAmmo when I get to FREE ground.
Right there with you. I purchased from SGAmmo during the last short window to have ammo sent to CA. I just received my FFL03 and COE, and then contacted them so that I could update my file and place an order. Sam sent a short reply saying they are not shipping to CA. It is really disappointing because I think they are a stand up family and would be a preferred ammo dealer.
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Sucks for SGAmmmo, I understand its more work and aggravation for them, but im sick of these companies and their policies going above and beyond the already ridiculous laws that we have to deal with. Anytime I buy a C&R from a dealer I have to educate them on the laws, and sometimes they refuse to accept the law due to their policies. Again, I understand their stance and CYA, but it bothers me.

Ill stick to Buffalo Bore, Target Sports USA and Underwood for my ammo purchases, and whoever else will take my business. Much respect to Buffalo Bore and their statement (Link below)


https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...uct_list&c=179
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The whole purpose of CA guns and ammo laws is to make everything so complicated that nobody dares to buy or order ammo or guns locally or online. It is way to circumvent the 2nd Amendment. They do understand that in Sacramento.
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Just received an order from Red River Reloading. They'll ship to California if the product isn't from "Warehouse 2". Emailed them my 03FFL+COE after ordering. Fast customer service over email!
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Top Gun Supply and Outdoor Limited wil ship. I just sent them my renewed certs
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Just received an order from Red River Reloading. They'll ship to California if the product isn't from "Warehouse 2". Emailed them my 03FFL+COE after ordering. Fast customer service over email!
Top Gun Supply and Red River Reloading added to list. Thanks and Thank you.
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The whole purpose of CA guns and ammo laws is to make everything so complicated that nobody dares to buy or order ammo or guns locally or online. It is way to circumvent the 2nd Amendment. They do understand that in Sacramento.
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Nailed it perfectly! Anyone who doesn't understand the above post needs to stop and reread it until it's crystal clear.



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Looks like 300 Blackout Club is good to go. I'll post an update when I receive my order.

https://www.300blackoutclub.com/
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https://www.300blackoutclub.com/
Just got shipping confirmation.
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Just want to give a shoutout to https://mtncitysupply.net/ I just received my order and am impressed with the quality of the ammo. Highly recommended.
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https://www.300blackoutclub.com/
Received my order. Definitely add them to the list.
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I'll second this: TacticalS**t just shipped my ammo order with no questions at all. I simplly responded to their emailed FFL request with my CDL/03/COE and included the text of the ammo statute with the exemption highlighted.




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We got another one to add to the list! Reached out through reddit didn't take much for them to say "Yeah I'll ship to y'all"

https://wekickbrass.com/

Got great price on range friendly AK food right now $12 to ship 20 boxes

https://wekickbrass.com/store/Centur...Box-p291094340

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What is CoE?
Its my recollection that an 03 cc's cannot sell ammo...or at least ammo that they made themselfs
You need an 06 which is a zoning nightmare, to produce and sell. The only place to sell is at gun shows, which in trying to do in Las Vegas. Ordered 3 roading presses and case processing equipment.
So if you are planning to come to vegas you can put ohhh n an advanced order and i can meet you at a gunshow!
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COE = Certificate of Eligibility

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/cert-eligibility

It's a California only thing that establishes your eligibility to purchase firearms. You have to renew it every year.

There are some parts of California firearm law that are made possible if you have a COE
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Please add 2Awarehouse to the list. Now shipping to Ca.
https://2awarehouse.com/
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What is CoE?
Its my recollection that an 03 cc's cannot sell ammo...or at least ammo that they made themselfs
You need an 06 which is a zoning nightmare, to produce and sell. The only place to sell is at gun shows, which in trying to do in Las Vegas. Ordered 3 roading presses and case processing equipment.
A COE and on 03 FFL exempts you from needing to use an FFL to transfer ammo to you in California.
That allows you to simply order ammo online to be shipped directly to you.
That's what this WHOLE THREAD is about.

03/COE also exempts you of the 1 per 30 day limit for handguns and semi-auto rifles.
03/COE also exempts you of the waiting period for C&R firearms.

03/COE has nothing to do with SELLING ammo.
03 FFL's can not sell ammo.
06 FFL is to manufacture ammo for sale.
No FFL is required to manufacture for your own use.
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What is CoE?
Its my recollection that an 03 cc's cannot sell ammo...or at least ammo that they made themselfs. You need an 06 which is a zoning nightmare, to produce and sell.
So, you have an understanding of what a COE is, yet you ask what it is?
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The only place to sell is at gun shows, which in trying to do in Las Vegas. Ordered 3 roading presses and case processing equipment.
So if you are planning to come to vegas you can put ohhh n an advanced order and i can meet you at a gunshow!
And then, we can run the risk of illegally importing your home loads into CA?

You’ve just bought equipment, so I’m sure that your production QC will eventually be solid, but what production capacity do you envision and what’s your scalability. Also, what’s your CPR going to be?
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You need an 06 which is a zoning nightmare, to produce and sell.
The only place to sell is at gun shows, which in trying to do in Las Vegas.
Ordered 3 roading presses and case processing equipment.
So if you are planning to come to vegas you can put ohhh n an advanced order and i can meet you at a gunshow!
Read this thread from a guy who started an ammo business 12 years ago so you don't make his same mistakes:
https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...d.php?t=314780
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Read this thread from a guy who started an ammo business 12 years ago so you don't make his same mistakes:
https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...d.php?t=314780
My Spidey Sense leans towards not trusting FlorideInMyWater. The open invite to purchase illegally manufactured ammo kind of closed it for me.

While I hate California's and the Federal government's 2a infringing laws, I will not deliberately break them for any reason or temptation.

Our founders gave us a process regarding laws that keeps order and a civil and free society. I served in the military to protect that system, and I'll stick with it no mater the glacial pace of regaining our right. Without law and order, we'll have nothing in the end.


Interestingly, I've been approached by more than one casual acquaintance about buying ammo online for them. I would never break the law and do that, but the message is clear. Be very, very careful out there COE-FFL03 holders, It is not paranoia if they really are trying to get you. And someone just might be.
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Collector Rifle & Ammo (https://www.308ammo.com) appears good to go.

I ordered a bit of 8mm Mauser from them and immediately emailed my paperwork. They never replied but shipped the order out a week later.
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Some new contributions to the list. Thanks guys.

Precision Delta
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Collector Rifle & Ammo

All added to the OP list.
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We got another one to add to the list! Reached out through reddit didn't take much for them to say "Yeah I'll ship to y'all"

https://wekickbrass.com/
I'll second this one! Also nice sale on .458 right now!
thanks again for posting!
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https://trueshotgunclub.com/
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2A Warehouse came through today. They are good to go. Madison Guns is great also.
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2A Warehouse came through today. They are good to go. Madison Guns is great also.
Seriously? 2A Warehoue told me in May they would only ship to FFLs…
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Velocity Ammunition sale is good to go.

I ordered from them last Friday and emailed my docs. Order is arriving tomorrow.

I had ordered from them for the first time back in March and thought that they kept a record of my FFL03 & COE. I received an email stating that they needed more info regarding my order. I called and they told me that they don’t keep records of past orders with FFL03’s and COE’s. I emailed them another copy of my docs and received another email stating that my order is on it’s way. It’s arriving tomorrow.
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Old 07-20-2021, 10:08 PM
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Seriously? 2A Warehoue told me in May they would only ship to FFLs…
An 03FFL IS an FFL...

Maybe you asked them the wrong question and got the wrong answer.
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Old 07-21-2021, 3:23 AM
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An 03FFL IS an FFL...

Maybe you asked them the wrong question and got the wrong answer.
I specifically asked if they shipped to Californians with an 03 FFL and a COE, and I explained that it was legal for us to recieve ammunition orders shipped to our residence rather than to a dealer. They said no, they only ship to FFLs…

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