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Illuminated reticles for hunting???
I read a whole bunch of different terms being tossed around haphazardly. It can be quite confusing.
Especially since it's difficult to find high quality optics these days that don't have illuminated reticles. Infra-red (IR) is NOT an "illuminated reticle". Illuminated reticles do not sense/amplify or"see" heat from an object/animal. They do not pick up the infra-red wavelength. My understanding of "night sights" is that they are are either fiber optic (Light gathering) or tritium painted (light reflecting). They also do not make the ambient light of the environment brighter like with classic night vision (IR). They do not make the darkness brighter and they do not sense heat from an animal like with "thermal imaging". Illuminated reticles and night sites, either fiber optic or painted, merely illuminate your sight pattern. So my question, before I drop $500 on a scope, is "Can you use an illuminated reticle for hunting"??? Last edited by McTrigga; 04-22-2020 at 9:50 PM.. |
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After digging a little deeper on the CDFW site, this is the wordage of the regulation on illuminated scope reticles for hunting:
Chapter 3: Big Game SS352: Shooting Hours On Big Game Sub-section (j) "Except as otherwise provided, while taking or attempting to take big game under the provisions of this section or Section 354 of these regulations, it is unlawful to use any device or devices which: 1) throw, cast or project an artificial light or electronically alter or intensify a light source for the purpose of visibly enhancing an animal; or 2) throw, cast or project an artificial light or electronically alter or intensify a light source for the purpose of providing a visible point of aim directly on an animal. Devices commonly referred to as "sniperscopes", night vision scopes or binoculars, or those utilizing infra-red, heat sensing or other non-visible spectrum light technology used for the purpose of visibly enhancing an animal or providing a visible point of aim directly on an animal are prohibited and may not be possessed while taking or attempting to take big game. Devices commonly referred to as laser rangefinders, ***"RED DOT" SCOPES*** with ***SELF-ILLUMINATING RETICLES***, and *FIBER_OPTIC SIGHTS*** with self-illuminating sight or pins which do not throw, cast or project a visible light onto an animal ***ARE PERMITTED***." Again, thanks to Smoothy8500 for additionally clarifying my ignorance. Last edited by McTrigga; 04-22-2020 at 9:47 PM.. |
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You've still got some definitions wrong.
Fiber optic are NOT "night sights" as they need a light source to operate. They are for daytime and low light conditions. Tritium is a gas. It is NOT painted on anything. Tritium is enclosed into glass capsules which are then inserted into sights. Tritium sights are "night sights" as they do not need other sources to amplify their presence.
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For a hunting rifle the answer is simple.
Leupold VX3i 3.5X10X40 Duplex reticle Non-AO 1" tube sighted in 2.75" high at 100 yards and hold on the animal for meat in the freezer . Been working since the 1970's. If you feel a need for a lit reticle then the Leupold VXr 3X9 with Firedot reticle will work well and not break the bank. There are many scopes that do not have lit reticles. Not sure where you were looking.
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Funny how the invention of First Focal Plane and "Christmas-tree" reticles have made things so difficult...Although I can see the merit in a (slightly) lit dot/reticle as the light starts to wane before dusk.
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I second Diver hunters sentiment on the Leupold. When you hunt, less gimmicks the better. You want simple, reliable, good optics , basic duplex reticle. streamline, lightweight. Good optics with good duplex reticle is all you need, illumination not needed even in low light.
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Also looking at Burris. Because weight is another enemy I also consider weight. Did anyone see that post about getting new eyes in five years? Now if I can just get the rest of my body bionic I can fulfill the bucket list |
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I ended up buying an Athlon Talos 4-14X44 FFP MRad Illuminated. Got it for $389.00 on sale. Got great ratings. I probably won't even touch the turrets. Zeroing at 200 yards.
We'll see how it performs in the field. It's taken me nearly 3 months to find and buy my left handed rifle, and I'm still in the DROS process. |
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let us know how it works out especially in bad weather and rough use.
That is a fairly new brand on the USA market as I remember. I will stick with Leupold on all my hunting firearms myself
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