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Old 02-03-2020, 10:03 AM
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god chooses his instruments. who are you to judge him?

Well, Cal.Bar does appear to think he is divine...
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Pretty much agree with CV. People in this era really see many of the stories in the Bible as metaphorical. There are many good things in it, but much of it is like the Greeks and Romans, Egyptians and other religions of the Mideast in that era. No one is God's chosen, rather they are the Americans chosen leader whether it be Obama, Trump, Bush or Clinton.
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My Dad used to tell me that in the past when our Republic was threatened by destruction or decline someone would show up and put us back on course, Abe Lincoln, Reagan and so on.

I did not believe him, hoped for it- but doubted it.

Then Trump showed up and beat the hell out of the imo evil Socialist/Communist Democrats, the Rino's and the "never Trumper" nay sayers. Astounded and gob smacked the world. No one thought it possible.

I could not believe it just stunned the hell out of me was happy and shocked.

Divine intervention? dunno but for damn sure the Neo Communist Democrats were and are not a force for good in our nation or the world. And Trump knocked them back on their devilish rears damn good for four years maybe if we are lucky eight.

Have to see what happens in November- I am hoping for a second chapter of the American revival.

God Bless President Trump.

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How about Trump's performance at the National Prayer Breakfast?

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" How about Trump's performance at the prayer breakfast ? " How about the way Jesus treated the Pharisee's and scribes when He rebuked them ! Eh? Offspring of the devil, generation of vipers etc etc. It happened more than once, read your Bibles and do some consideration of your attitudes towards Mr T. I am only one voice, but I absolutely support his words dealing with the likes of political and religious HYPOCRITES.

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"I absolutely support his words dealing with the likes of political and religious HYPOCRITES."

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"Generation of vipers" Trump is surrounded by subversives who are trying to undermine his efforts to set the ship of state back to the correct Constitutional course. Deep state traitors who stab him in the back every chance they get.

Every word he spoke about the fake impeachment snakes was true- I do not blame him at all for speaking out about it.

Trumps mistake was not firing the Obama hold overs when he came into office- allowing them to subvert his correct efforts. Obama fired Bush holdovers and then put in place Neo-Communist/Socialists who supported his "fundamental change" of America.

Trumps mistake was thinking they would work for him without Communist/Socialist bias and/or 'resistance'

He should have cleaned out the rats nest as soon as he was sworn into office.
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So... god is down to choosing a loser who's on his third wife whom he cheated on with a porn star while she was pregnant with their child. Then lied about it, and paid $130K in hush money in violation of Federal Law.

Lowering the bar just a smidge from Jesus wouldn't you say? Must be a tough market for messiahs?
You know who Saul was ? How about all the others in the Old Testament?
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Nancy prayed and God listened and acted. And a day later she cursed!
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So... god is down to choosing a loser who's on his third wife whom he cheated on with a porn star while she was pregnant with their child. Then lied about it, and paid $130K in hush money in violation of Federal Law.

Lowering the bar just a smidge from Jesus wouldn't you say? Must be a tough market for messiahs?
I'll bet you vote for anti gun politicians.
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Nancy prayed and God listened and acted. And a day later she cursed!
I remember a preacher who said, “God always answers our prayers and sometimes the answer is no.”
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Is Trump God's chosen one? Don't know for sure if Trump is or is not, but am quite certain Romney isn't.
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So... god is down to choosing a loser who's on his third wife whom he cheated on with a porn star while she was pregnant with their child. Then lied about it, and paid $130K in hush money in violation of Federal Law.

Lowering the bar just a smidge from Jesus wouldn't you say? Must be a tough market for messiahs?
Hey man, St. Peter thrice denied Christ,....all the saints were imperfect people like us....the point is, we can do great things DESPITE being losers...


Heck St. Paul murdered Christians! Now he wrote most of any other writer what you read in scripture....!

This is Gods great gift...
The ability to convert and work in favor of God. There’s more reason to celebrate a son who returns, even for the wrong reason as long as the fruit he beats is good...
I’m mixing metaphors, but the prodigal sin didn’t return cuz he was sorry, he returned cuz he was broken, but that’s what it takes sometimes for us to become part of the family again. Many times people are forgiven before their miraculous conversions .....
Er I should really Say underdogs.

Trump is the first president to EVER speak out against abortion to the world in them public forum with the March for life ....

He’s the first president to point out that we each are made in the holy image and likeness of God!! Have any of us done this in the fight against abortion?

He is doing some serious good

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I haven’t read one single response here. But I do know that the only “chosen one” is Jesus Christ.

Next question?
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So... god is down to choosing a loser who's on his third wife whom he cheated on with a porn star while she was pregnant with their child. Then lied about it, and paid $130K in hush money in violation of Federal Law.

Lowering the bar just a smidge from Jesus wouldn't you say? Must be a tough market for messiahs?
Trump isn't even a Christian. Christianity at its most basic belief is that mankind is in a fallen state and mankind everyone needs to ask god for forgiveness.

When Trump was asked if he ever asked god for forgiveness he said no he didn't see the need.
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Is Trump God's chosen one? Don't know for sure if Trump is or is not, but am quite certain Romney isn't.
Romney lives a more Christian life than Trump. Ya know where it says in the bible about by their works ye shall know them.
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God works through who ever HE wishes; some willing and some not so willing.
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I haven’t read one single response here. But I do know that the only “chosen one” is Jesus Christ.

Next question?
Well Jesus wasn’t technically chosen—He actively chose to incarnate ; the Word made flesh..

(Now Anakin Skywalker was “the chosen one”. Brought balance to the Force when he killed Emperor Palpatine.)

Although there was a pious monk, also a mystic, who in 1985 said that Trump would be the man to bring God back into the White House ...wrote trumps name on a brick and laid it behind a pair of doors at the basilica, I be.ieve, in Rome as a prayer intention.

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Well Jesus wasn’t technically chosen—He actively chose to incarnate ; the Word made flesh..

(Now Anakin Skywalker was “the chosen one”. Brought balance to the Force when he killed Emperor Palpatine.)

Although there was a pious monk, also a mystic, who in 1985 said that Trump would be the man to bring God back into the White House ...wrote trumps name on a brick and laid it behind a pair of doors at the basilica, I be.ieve, in Rome as a prayer intention.
God chose Him. Christ affirmed Isaiah's prophesy:

Mt12:18 “BEHOLD, MY SERVANT WHOM I HAVE CHOSEN; MY BELOVED IN WHOM MY SOUL is WELL-PLEASED; I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT UPON HIM, AND HE SHALL PROCLAIM JUSTICE TO THE GENTILES.

Christ also affirmed this back to His Father in the High Priestly prayer:

Jn17:4 “I glorified You on the earth, having accomplished the work which You have given Me to do.

The problem is that biblically, we most often use the word "chosen" with respect to election/predestination. But, the Bible does use it with respect to Jesus Christ being chosen to come to incarnate and die for our sins.
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So... god is down to choosing a loser who's on his third wife whom he cheated on with a porn star while she was pregnant with their child. Then lied about it, and paid $130K in hush money in violation of Federal Law.

Lowering the bar just a smidge from Jesus wouldn't you say? Must be a tough market for messiahs?
Still better than Alah’s pick for Mullahs
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God chose Him. Christ affirmed Isaiah's prophesy:

Mt12:18 “BEHOLD, MY SERVANT WHOM I HAVE CHOSEN; MY BELOVED IN WHOM MY SOUL is WELL-PLEASED; I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT UPON HIM, AND HE SHALL PROCLAIM JUSTICE TO THE GENTILES.

Christ also affirmed this back to His Father in the High Priestly prayer:

Jn17:4 “I glorified You on the earth, having accomplished the work which You have given Me to do.

The problem is that biblically, we most often use the word "chosen" with respect to election/predestination. But, the Bible does use it with respect to Jesus Christ being chosen to come to incarnate and die for our sins.

I find myself ill equipped to discuss the nature of God. After all, God created me and not the other way around. I see God as beyond my comprehension. That said I lean towards the earlier version of the Nicene Creed "being of one substance with the Father." Always there together before the beginning of time. And maybe time itself is nothing more than a creation of God. Again, stuff above my pay grade.
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God, Santa, Easter Bunny... take your pick of mythical beings.
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I haven’t read one single response here. But I do know that the only “chosen one” is Jesus Christ.

Next question?
Okay, so maybe he is like the new Samson.
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There is nothing wrong with the idea that God chose Trump. There is a bit of difference between being "the" chosen one, and being "a" chosen one.
After all, Noah was chosen. Mary was chosen. Abraham was chosen. Sometimes, being the right one for the job means having some issues.

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Remember the OLD Testament story about a man with sons from his wife and one son from another woman not his wife ? In other words a bastard by OT
standards back when. When the father died the wife's sons kicked out the other son and he grew up on the streets and had a rough life. Problems arose and so no one could intervene for rescue of " the righteous folks " to save the community so they turned to the bastard to save them. He got some goons together and whipped ( killed ) the bad guys for them. Etc. Look it up with your concordance. Maybe you will understand how God uses men and women not as smooth, lovely, righteous etc as society chooses or likes.

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The Coronavirus may be Trump's Come to Jesus moment.
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So... god is down to choosing a loser who's on his third wife whom he cheated on with a porn star while she was pregnant with their child. Then lied about it, and paid $130K in hush money in violation of Federal Law.

Lowering the bar just a smidge from Jesus wouldn't you say? Must be a tough market for messiahs?
Just like Saul.

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Look who God used as servants in the Bible, Thieves, prostitutes, ect. So to answer your question, Yes, God chose Trump, and is there a better choice out there? like Clinton? and now Biden it looks to be the next to go against Trump, is He better than Trump? Not by a long shot, guy is going senile and He's been in politics for 30+ years and has done nothing to speak of thats good, only using His position for profit, Trump is not without His faults, but He's actually doing a great job as President, setting record after record, and He'll be the first to tell you about them, LOL, :>) - Thank God for Trump...
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God chose Him. Christ affirmed Isaiah's prophesy:

Mt12:18 “BEHOLD, MY SERVANT WHOM I HAVE CHOSEN; MY BELOVED IN WHOM MY SOUL is WELL-PLEASED; I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT UPON HIM, AND HE SHALL PROCLAIM JUSTICE TO THE GENTILES.

Christ also affirmed this back to His Father in the High Priestly prayer:

Jn17:4 “I glorified You on the earth, having accomplished the work which You have given Me to do.

The problem is that biblically, we most often use the word "chosen" with respect to election/predestination. But, the Bible does use it with respect to Jesus Christ being chosen to come to incarnate and die for our sins.
Correct....and I meant not “chosen” ....as if chosen from amongst many, .....you can say Jesus, being God ( ....and the Word was God) , chose Himself, or decided to sacrifice Himself for us.

God humbled Himself and expressed the greatest love one can achieve which was that he lay His life down for each of us.
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God, Santa, Easter Bunny... take your pick of mythical beings.
Santa was based on a real saint...

Nobody ever died for the Easter bunny....

You tell that to the 6 million Jews And million more Greeks, romans and other samaritans who believed jesus was the messiah after He resurrected from the dead, returned, taught some more and then as ended to Heaven.

Prove Jesus didn’t exist and you’ll get a Pulitzer....there’s too much extra biblical reference out in the wild that they can’t deny His existence, impact, and resurrection historically speaking......
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God, Santa, Easter Bunny... take your pick of mythical beings.
If you’re going to be disrespectful to people of faith on this thread, why don’t you not waste your time, and ask some real questions if you want a real discussion...you’re not one of those people who defines themselves by what they don’t believe in are you? Or just trying to ruffle feathers, or get people to believe in nothing?
I don’t really care whether or not you believe in a God, but don’t be trying to puff yourself up because you think you have a better education somehow.
And if you have a university education ....you can thank the Church for inventing the a University with Cambridge and Oxford even before the Aztec empire was born....

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So... god is down to choosing a loser who's on his third wife whom he cheated on with a porn star while she was pregnant with their child. Then lied about it, and paid $130K in hush money in violation of Federal Law.

Lowering the bar just a smidge from Jesus wouldn't you say? Must be a tough market for messiahs?
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God once used a donkey. This could possibly be the same scenario. Either way the Government rests on Gods shoulders (Isa 9) , the book is written let’s watch it unfold till the last Trump


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If Trump was “chosen” by God it was surely to give us all a laugh. Next to Biden, Trump may be the biggest moron I’ve ever seen given a post they were entirely ill-equipped for. Good News is, after he finishes bungling the Covid response we will all get to meet God and just ask this question directly.
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If Trump was “chosen” by God it was surely to give us all a laugh. Next to Biden, Trump may be the biggest moron I’ve ever seen given a post they were entirely ill-equipped for. Good News is, after he finishes bungling the Covid response we will all get to meet God and just ask this question directly.
Which of Trump's policies do you believe have been harmful to American citizens?
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