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California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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Probably shaped that way on purpose by the legislator to garner Newsome's signature, as it won't be usable against him if he tries to run for President that year.
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CA is a lost cause unless we can get enough people at the federal level willing to do something about them, that includes the president and congress and the DOJ. Also the supreme court needs to start weighing in on many of these cases as well. I predict in the next 5 to 10 years there wont be any legal gun owners left in CA and if there are they wont be able to use the guns for self defense under any circumstances. Again I say unless there is federal intervention CA is lost along with NY and NJ and a few other states.
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This kind of **** is why I have abandoned doing anything with firearms in this state. Not purchasing any, not buying ammo, not shooting, not training, and I gave up my CCW. It isn't worth it. Too many anti-gun LE agencies and DA's. The anti-gun pols hate us. Have fun finding a jury of your peers that won't come back with a guilty plea if you have to shoot some one. And don't tell anyone you work with, or in a relationship with, that you are a gun owner. Don't even discuss it in public with anyone. Just hoping I can get the **** out of this state as soon as possible.
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Before he leaves office, he will sign a ban on all semi-auto rifles/shotguns.
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i will continue to exercise my first amendment rights right along with the rest. sign all the laws he wants since i am already an outlaw and been one for decades. i will not be muzzled or bow down to a man i would not waste my spit on much less some precious toxic lead.
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I’m also taking every single firearm I own out of state next month. I work with some waffletwat communist coworkers who are hardcore Anti 2A and they all know I’m pro-gun. I fully expect one of them to start the process for a red flag seizure against me now that dickhead has signed that bill into law. |
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"Make Rifles Evil Again" is my motto... |
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That doesn’t bode well. |
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What we need is a community organizer. No joke. We need a leader/figurehead to organize all of us into actually showing up, in person, to demonstrate en masse. I’m not quite ready to give up.
Also how did this turn into a debate about Jews?? A lot of Jews are college educated and from the coasts.. they’re liberal. A lot are hardcore conservative as well. Just like everyone else. These types of sweeping comments about conspiracies and the supposed involvement of certain ethnic groups lowers the level of discourse at Calguns and only benefits our enemies. |
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All those politicians seem to have something in common, but I just can't quite put my finger on it.. hmmm
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Sorry. In another fire fight too busy to look it up. So same question. What is effective date so I can put it on my calendar. Not an urgency thing so 01 JAN 20? Good grief! It's already October. Does anyone know how to create a clone???? |
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This should not be a debate about Jews because this takes away from the core subject of the second Amendment defense. However everyone needs to look at what our opposition has in common from money, to positions, to last names, and so forth while looking for common denominators we can use against them. But expect them to raise the issue the moment they need to. It doesn't mean we have to play into their hands but be aware of it along with other factors. we need to get back on point if we have not lost it already.
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I laugh at all of you who believe you still live in an American state. Take a look at what was written in the declaration of independence some time soon. We now have the following:
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. (have fun calling the state DOJ) He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance. He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures. For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent Nevermind the idea that red flag laws are a usurpation of your 4th and 5th amendment rights, as they're also GENERAL WARRANTS. California represents the worst qualities of human society and will only become close to the autocratic Chinese "communist" party. Anyone staying in this state for much longer is a GOD DAMN FOOL. |
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They know that having a vague description won't pass court muster and too detailed a description is like a 400 yard section of border wall. Easy to walk around. |
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Federally, the issue is whether or not it "may readily be converted to expel a projectile." at which point it's a firearm. For AR receivers, BATFE currently believes that to be any machining in the fire control area, including a center punched pin location or take down pin pocket more than 0.800" in length. At the state level, it's what constitutes Quote:
Last edited by Drew Eckhardt; 10-14-2019 at 8:41 PM.. |
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If CA had only passed a small amount of anti-gun laws in the last decade, and had made the smallest attempt to keep them less stringent, that would have been one thing. If they had done that, then the gun people in this state might have made a decision to live and adapt.
But, noooooo. CA decided to instead double down almost every year, for the last several years. Like zombies with bloodlust, there are never enough laws for them. Each year, they pile on more and more. Each year, they either re-submit laws that didn't pass in previous years, or they write and pass laws that would have been impossible to even conceive of just a couple years ago. So I ask, when a person lives in a state where the anti-gun laws are passed at this extreme rate, truly where is the incentive for people to try for 100% compliance? When a society makes almost everything illegal, than that sheer quantity of laws and regulations becomes little more than noise. My wife once taught me how to talk to our kids. She said, "Keep the instructions and corrections short. To the point. Less is more. After the first few seconds, they tune out." CA government doesn't understand this basic human psychology. These guys truly believe that it's all about the quantity of the laws they pass. They've accomplished nothing, except to lessen the respect that voters have for all pols, and to make not only gun laws worthless, but almost all laws worthless.
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The progressive-communists embedded as legislative aides in Sacramento are neither clueless or ignorant. This incremental disarmament is quite deliberate. It is they and the State legislators they hide behind who need to be removed from their offices. |
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The majority of those that remain do. If others had not left we might have some push-back here.
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NO, FOOL. It's due to importing third-world socialist-loving supporters since 1965. We were outnumbered then, we are beyond outnumbered now. 1. They have more kids than you. 2. More of them immigrate than people emigrating Only a masochistic idiot would stay to get hammered by a top-down communist government. |
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i think a lot of people are going to find that immigrants have plenty of weapons and when gavin starts his crackdown and it reminds them of where they came from and they have no place to run to now you may find a lot of Little mexicos, Viet Nams, Chinatowns, etc in this uprising as communities wall themselves off against the government. this mess could go any which way and anti-gun laws don't scare them because they have lived under that rule most of their lives elsewhere. It is the white person who is losing his or her rights not the immigrants.
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I would love to see a flight of sky writing planes do a bullseye directly over the Excremento capitol buildings and write 'nuke here-->" next to it...
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ALSO,ANYONE SEE THE BILL HE SIGNED ALLOWING ILLEGALS TO SERVE ON GOVERNMENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS!?!?!?!.... TRULY W....T...F...
JUST HANDING THIS STATE TO ILLEGALS AND STACKING THE DECK TO INSURE THEY ALL STAY IN POWER.... AND THEY SAY THERE IS NO VOTER FRAUD IN CALIFOR.....SOUTHAMEXIFORNIA...... Every state legislator should be tarred feathered and given 20 lashes and banned from any public office for their treason...i am going light on the punishment so some can still feel warm and fuzzy on the forum.
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Negative ghostrider, I've witnessed the fall of the once great State since the 70's and it's never gotten better.
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We are all taking stock of the impacts of this. I am making changes at my place of work as well. It is only prudent that everyone does.
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I love this state of California... How each year newer laws for gun control comes out. It puts me to the point where I just don't give a $%&# anymore... I'm not saying I want to be that person but because of them it puts most of the goods to say forget them laws. That why some leave CA and the ones that can't ends up with what I state above.
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usually they go into effect 1/1/ the following year unless there is an emergency clause in it. and don't worry the price will go up if not for the initial cost then for the maintaining on renewal. It is the new cash cow for the sheriff's and police department and you can bet the supervisors in each county/city are going to want their taste.
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