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Old 12-03-2020, 9:37 PM
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Default 10/22 why so popular

ive always been a Marlin guy when it came to .22 rifles , the first rifle i ever bought was a Marlin Model 60 , unfortunately i do not have that particular rifle ay longer but i have owned a model 60 for the last 25 years as well as a Marlin .22 mag Mod 783 for a few longer than that
they are dependable and accurate ,i can shoot a cotton mouth in the head with iron sights at 10-15 yards ive never had a instance where i needed or ran out of ammo so the added capacity of a 10/22 really was never a selling point for me
if you have one what exactly is your personal reasoning that gravitated you to it
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Vast of parts cater to 10/22.
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Because you can spend a thousand bucks to assemble a high end 10/22 clone that might be worth $400. All kidding aside they are a lot of fun. Get one and change a couple parts at a time until you have two rifles.






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They're the Jeep Wranglers of the .22lr world, so many aftermarket parts that you can practically build one from the ground up into darn near any configuration/standard that your heart desires.

That and its a reliable rifle that'll take a lickin' and keep on tickin'. So I guess its also the Timex of the .22lr world as well.
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It was cheap on a Black Friday sale... that's how they hook ya. And as soon as you start fiddling around with aftermarket upgrades and customizing, they multiply like rabbits. So many possible configurations, there's something to appeal to pretty much everyone!

Marlins are nice rifles too, but you won't find one gussied up in tactical, bullpup, folding stock w/evil features, takedown, etc...

Don't forget, you can build a 10/22 based "clone" without a single Ruger part!
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And now, thanks to Winchester and Thompson Center, you can buy one that isn't a Ruger. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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marketing - by most accounts the Marlin model 60 is a better gun but the 10/22 has a better publicist
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massive aftermarket magazine market
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They are popular because the IDF uses them as a sniper rifle. And everyone wants to use the rifles that the IDF uses.

Seriously, they’re just common as common can be. Also tried and true for many years.

I actually own a Marlin 795 and I love it a lot. It’s a tack driver - I can put 10 shots into 1” square at 25 yards with iron sights.

But I will also be buying a 10/22 someday (because the IDF has em).
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Ruger made an outstanding, cheap to make, design with the 10/22. There are two primary reasons for its popularity: 1) cost and 2) the magazines. Instead of making cheap magazines that wear out quickly, Ruger put a steel insert for the feed lips. Hence, the magazines feed until the spring wear out, or it is filled with wax and powder residue.

If an excellent trigger and barrel are fitted, the thing is as accurate as an Anschutz target rifle, no joke. At some level of barrel quality, ammunition is the difference in accuracy. In large part due to its long manufacturing life, since the early 1960's, there is a huge aftermarket of parts for the things. I am quite certain there is a turbo charger that can be fitted on top!
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The guns that seem to be the most enduring and popular, are guns that have huge aftermarket support. They're also easy on the wallet and are easy to work on and upgrade.

.22 rifle: Ruger 10/22

9mm handgun: Glock 19

.45 ACP handgun: 1911

Semi auto rifle: AR-15

12 ga. shotgun: Remington 870

Bolt action rifle: Remington 700
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22s are just popular, always have been. Still a Marlin guy myself. But I have owned a stock 10-22 scattered over the years. Decent Rifles..But they always go, my Marlins stay,LOL
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I think it's because they are good,cheap, and compact.semi- auto .22s
They are great for kids as well.
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Decades of proven reliability, unparalleled aftermarket options, and one of the funnest guns you'll ever shoot. They are a no brainer for any firearms owner
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Vast of parts cater to 10/22.
^ This right here. I'm a Henry guy for 22s, but the 10/22 is fairly cheap, reliable, iconic brand, and it's the Chevy small block 350 of rifles. Everyone makes parts for it.
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Like a Remington 870 - there are a ton of them out there, making them cheap. A lot of aftermarket products are made for them so you can customize for its purpose. Once you have one, you have mags and ammo so when looking at another .22 rifle, I got another 10/22 because I have mags, parts, and familiar with the platform.
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Was at SW in Rancho Cordova and the sales guy was saying how he didn’t like .22’s. What’s not to love? Lightweight, quiet, cheap, and fun.

A different salesman thought he was trying to overcompensate for something because he didn’t like the small .22’s. ��
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Because you can do this to it.

And all that will still not make it out shoot a stock Marlin Model 60
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I originally bought mine in 1973 because it resembled an M1 carbine. It was my first firearm. All original parts still. Many 1000's of rounds thru it. No problems...still shoots. I can knock soda cans over at 50 yards all the time. Stock sights.
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Well, all of the above. I'm sure the Marlin is a superb rifle, as I've never owned one, but as the owner of a few 10/22's, some modified, some stock, you can't deny their cost , dependability and after market support. They're just plain fun.
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love the old school Ruger stuff.

10/22, 44 carbine, PC9/40, mini14 are all-time fun guns with iron sights.
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The guns that seem to be the most enduring and popular, are guns that have huge aftermarket support. They're also easy on the wallet and are easy to work on and upgrade.

.22 rifle: Ruger 10/22

9mm handgun: Glock 19

.45 ACP handgun: 1911

Semi auto rifle: AR-15

12 ga. shotgun: Remington 870

Bolt action rifle: Remington 700

What! No .357 lever gun ?


OP, I'm with you, I prefer the model 60 over the 10/22. The model 60 is easier to load and you don't forget your mags.
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The hidden advantage of the 10/22 is it can be completely taken apart with common hand tools on your kitchen table.
For those who like to tinker and modify, this is the deciding factor.
For those who want to buy a gun and leave it as is, the 60 is a great gun.
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Well, all of the above. I'm sure the Marlin is a superb rifle, as I've never owned one, but as the owner of a few 10/22's, some modified, some stock, you can't deny their cost , dependability and after market support. They're just plain fun.

Nothing wrong with variety or competition but- the market has spoken. The 10/22 is the best all around semi-auto .22lr.
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Widely available, large market of Ruger and aftermarket parts to make modifications to it, they're easy to maintain and clean compared to other .22 semi-auto's I've shot and handled, and frankly once I got out of California the detachable 11+ round magazines were a selling point for me. Got a large stack of 15 round Ruger magazines for mine that make reloading a breeze compared to having to deal with the almost two-handed affair of yanking a flush-fit 10 round magazine out.
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I put together a 10-22 for myself and liked the results.
I also wanted to give my kids their own rifles, personalized to their likes.
The 10-22 is just the ticket for that. Using bare receivers and a mix of new and lightly used parts
I put them together and tuned them for reliability and good triggers.
All have had the bolts modded by a pro gunsmith for reliable operation.
Mine:

Oldest Daughter:

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I own stoning jigs and many other gunsmithing tools so I feel confident in maintaining and repairing my stable of long and short guns.
The 10-22 is a good gun to get a feel for whether you are a tinkerer or not.
I own several older Marlin single shots and repeaters and like them very much, some needed considerable TLC.
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I would respectfully disagree with the first part. Out of the box, I would replace "Outstanding" with "Average".

I've shot too many single shot, bolt, pump and semi-auto 22's that shoot better than 10/22's out of the box.

Your second point is correct; if you throw away most of the parts and get aftermarket, the 10/22 can be made in to a tack driver.

They are fun to shoot; I have one. But Outstanding is stretch(IMHO after 50 years of shooting)

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Ruger made an outstanding, cheap to make, design with the 10/22. There are two primary reasons for its popularity: 1) cost and 2) the magazines. Instead of making cheap magazines that wear out quickly, Ruger put a steel insert for the feed lips. Hence, the magazines feed until the spring wear out, or it is filled with wax and powder residue.

If an excellent trigger and barrel are fitted, the thing is as accurate as an Anschutz target rifle, no joke. At some level of barrel quality, ammunition is the difference in accuracy. In large part due to its long manufacturing life, since the early 1960's, there is a huge aftermarket of parts for the things. I am quite certain there is a turbo charger that can be fitted on top!
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Price, parts and nostalgia.
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I bought it because of the takedown model. I was running out of space in my safe. The takedown meant I could shove it under the bed.
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Why would anyone only own one 10-22?
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I bought it because I read that they have the most reliable drum mags. I could not confirm it yet because drum mags were out of stock during Freedom Week 1.0 and 2.0.
Plenty of other great 22lr rifles out there. You're not missing out by not having a 10/22.
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I have a few Marlin model 60's and my first 10/22 I purchased in 1980 I also own Marlin and Remington bolt actions along with my Henry Golden Boy. Out of the box IMHO the Marlin is king, For after market add-ons and Mods the 10/22 all day you can configure it to out shoot almost any .22 for a change a pace my Golden Boy gets the job done.
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I can't speak for anyone else, but I was a die-hard Marlin guy with my old reliable model 60...then I bought a 10/22.


Now I own multiple 10/22s in multiple configurations. They are awesome little rifles that are inexpensive and fun to shoot. They are reliable, and they have a million aftermarket parts and accessories available.

I still have my model 60 and I still love it...but I only have one of them. I think that is indicative of something...
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Bought a 795 because it was $150 and the 10/22 was $250. No regrets but the availability of different things you can do 10/22 make it pretty awesome there's no where near as much after market stuff for the 795
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Bought a 795 because it was $150 and the 10/22 was $250. No regrets but the availability of different things you can do 10/22 make it pretty awesome there's no where near as much after market stuff for the 795
My 10/22 was $85.00 but a long time ago, my first Marlin was $62.00 at Kmart out the door.
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My 10/22 was $85.00 but a long time ago, my first Marlin was $62.00 at Kmart out the door.
I have a model 60 my dad bought at Kmart in Monrovia in the mid 80s. Probably was $50 to $60.
I shot it all the time as a kid but i always liked my friends 10/22 because magazines.
Eventhough, now i know, with a tube loader, the 10/22 is much easier and quicker to load.
I also have a stainless 10/22 i bought about 15 years ago from turners.
I rarely shoot either anymore infavor of the ar-22 i made out of an evil xm-177 clone ( pinned and welded flash hider) i converted with a clymer kit.
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Because they’re just plan fun to shoot.

I also have a Marlin Model 75, a S&W 15-22, a GSG-522, a Browning lever, and a couple of Crickett bolt actions in my rifle collection. They’re all fun to shoot.
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The guns that seem to be the most enduring and popular, are guns that have huge aftermarket support. They're also easy on the wallet and are easy to work on and upgrade.

.22 rifle: Ruger 10/22

9mm handgun: Glock 19

.45 ACP handgun: 1911

Semi auto rifle: AR-15

12 ga. shotgun: Remington 870

Bolt action rifle: Remington 700
He nailed it. The versatility of a rifle that can grow with you. A 10/22 can be an off the shelf plinker from BassPro or a fully custom Volquartsen/Kidd sub MOA precision custom job that shots 1 hole groups.

A stock Marlin may be better, but it cannot be upgraded to near the point of the ruger.
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Nothing wrong with a Marlin Model 60. Likewise, nothing wrong with a Ruger 10/22. I wouldn't turn up my nose at either.

Why are they so popular? Other posters have pointed out several good reasons. For me, it was just a comfortable shooter. Wife loves it.

The 10/22 is, like the Marlin 60, a quality, well-made firearm. The ease of reloading a 10/22 with another magazine is a very nice thing. The fact that we can get 25-round factory magazines is another. The fact that those magazines are high-quality is a third.

I guess it's like Ford/Chevy/Dodge, or Honda/Nissan/Subaru/Toyota, or Audi/BMW/Mercedes-Benz. It's all a matter of personal taste. Get what you like.

EDIT: OK, there is one major advantage to the 10/22 that I just thought of. Since you can get a 25-round factory magazine for it, that qualifies it as "A SALT WEPPEN", because it is "capable of accepting a HIGH CAPACITY CLIP!" All you need after that is a shoulder thing that goes up.
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