Where should I retire?

[jemswirl]

I'm a year and a half-away from retiring and want to free myself and family from commiefornia.

Where's the best red ( conservative ) State to move to that won't in a few years turn blue? Like Nevada did.

Narrowed down to Arizona, Texas ( high property tax ), Tennessee or Florida.

Scared that Arizona and Texas can turn along with Idaho from Kali libs moving up there.

[PaperTarget]

Pick a state that starts with the letter "T"

[PaperTarget]

So you don't want to infiltrate a Blue state and help take over the majority of the voting population?

[Tere_Hanges]

Utah

[Danodog]

Idaho is the safest of them all. Texas will turn blue before Arizona in my opinion. Tennessee is definitely a good choice too.

[BajaJames83]

My vote is Texas.
Which is also on my shortlist of places to move to before retirement

[The War Wagon]

East Tennessee - Free State of Franklin area. Beautiful scenery, ZERO libtards, State tax-FREE.

[jemswirl]

Baja, I've been fighting this blue state for decades, would like to actually enjoy what freedom is really like before I'm dead.


My top was Texas before I saw their property taxes, wow and they keep gong up? Any town's in Texas that don't have hight prop. taxes?

Too bad Nevada turned to the dark side.

[bombadillo]

There are no safe States anymore. Well I don't think Idaho is going to turn blue anytime soon, it can turn a slightly more darker shade of purple if we allow it to. All these damn Californians moving in who don't want freedom Firearms God and family are the ones causing issues in the state

[sigstroker]

Originally Posted by jemswirl

I'm a year and a half-away from retiring and want to free myself and family from commiefornia.

Where's the best red ( conservative ) State to move to that won't in a few years turn blue? Like Nevada did.

Narrowed down to Arizona, Texas ( high property tax ), Tennessee or Florida.

Scared that Arizona and Texas can turn along with Idaho from Kali libs moving up there.

Originally Posted by PaperTarget

Pick a state that starts with the letter "T"

Pick a state that starts with the letter "M"

[brix]

Originally Posted by jemswirl

I'm a year and a half-away from retiring and want to free myself and family from commiefornia.

Where's the best red ( conservative ) State to move to that won't in a few years turn blue? Like Nevada did.

Narrowed down to Arizona, Texas ( high property tax ), Tennessee or Florida.

Scared that Arizona and Texas can turn along with Idaho from Kali libs moving up there.

Property tax is high but you pay no personal income tax, if you live in the right area (outside the metro areas) you can save a ton of money with things like Electricity because they have more than one provider which allows for competition which is good for the consumer. Land is also cheap, depending on where you want to live you can get acreage for a decent price. Even if you live in a metro area homes are more reasonable in terms of price. A lot of people opt to live right outside of major metro areas where costs are cheaper. I worked it to where I was able to rent out my home in CA (we had a ton of equity and property tax protected by prop 13, for now) and buy a home in a great area in San Antonio for under 300k 3500sq ft house on a 8k lot in a great neighborhood with a good school system which was very important to me. We chose in the metro area because we still have kids and my wife got a good gig at the UTHSA hospital here. So you have to look at it as a trade off. I get the feeling that most transplants from CA to Tx are conservatives, but Texas used to be blue when it was a more moderate state. I know a lot of companies are bringing their business here like Tesla, but I feel a lot of the more liberal Texans (there are a number of them) are turned off by the riots. One thing Texas loves is law and order and their military. You can get veteran marked license plates that give you things like free parking at airports. Getting a LCH has gotten better too, they are now doing online course for the class room portion so you just need to do a review and qualification which general takes an hour in person. There is also a bill being introduced at the beginning of 2021 for constitutional carry. I can't tell you how great it feels to drive down the street seeing by neighbors flying the Red White and Blue both the American and Texas flags....its awesome.

[PaperTarget]

Originally Posted by sigstroker

Pick a state that starts with the letter "M"

Massachusetts. Nah, that doesn't work.

[Cowboy T]

Originally Posted by PaperTarget

Massachusetts. Nah, that doesn't work.

But Maine might. They voted in Constitutional, a.k.a. Vermont Carry, into law a few years ago. Heck, Vermont itself would be a good state even if The Bern's gone anti-2A.

Until recently, I might've suggested Virginia, but the Bloom-boy Democrats have taken over.

OP would do well to consider West Virginia or South Carolina also. West Virginia is not Virginia, rest assured.

[AtomicOrange]

I am one year away and have been researching Tennessee and South Dakota. Both are conservative, and tax and business friendly. Why does no-one ever mention S. Dakota? Am I missing something? Aside from good medical drawing in "liberals" I can't find anything wrong going on there. Colder weather is obvious coming from CA.

[PaperTarget]

Originally Posted by AtomicOrange

I am one year away and have been researching Tennessee and South Dakota. Both are conservative, and tax and business friendly. Why does no-one ever mention S. Dakota? Am I missing something? Aside from good medical drawing in "liberals" I can't find anything wrong going on there. Colder weather is obvious coming from CA.

There is much more in Tennessee than South Dakota. South Dakota is flat and windy. All states have more than South Dakota (in the way of weather, terrain, access to transportation and medical) except North Dakota.

[Tere_Hanges]

Originally Posted by PaperTarget

There is much more in Tennessee than South Dakota. South Dakota is flat and windy. All states have more than South Dakota (in the way of weather, terrain, access to transportation and medical) except North Dakota.

Tennessee and Kentucky are the only two states I'd want to live in east of the Mississippi. Kentucky is one of the most beautiful states I've been to. I've heard TN is very similar.

Maine is also very beautiful, when it isnt winter. The winters are long and brutal.

[oddjob]

OP,

Besides the taxes, gun laws & etc I would also look at medical care for older folks. I have friends who have moved out of state and they had to deal with heart attacks and cancer treatments. Just something to consider. Consider your life expectancy as far as another state turning into a California. A friend of mine was ranting about other states turning blue until I told him he would be dead by then!

[GW]

Originally Posted by oddjob

OP,

Besides the taxes, gun laws & etc I would also look at medical care for older folks. I have friends who have moved out of state and they had to deal with heart attacks and cancer treatments. Just something to consider. Consider your life expectancy as far as another state turning into a California. A friend of mine was ranting about other states turning blue until I told him he would be dead by then!

That's excellent advice. Washington has some stupid laws but still way better than the PRK plus No sate income tax Plus, if you live in southwest WA, you hop across the border into Oregon to buy your big ticket items like furniture and TVs etc. because Oregon has no sales tax. Add fine dining in the non-rioting areas and excellent hospitals in the area make it a nice place to retire to. AND California cannot tax your pension if you live out of state.

[VictorFranko]

Originally Posted by oddjob

OP,

Besides the taxes, gun laws & etc I would also look at medical care for older folks. I have friends who have moved out of state and they had to deal with heart attacks and cancer treatments. Just something to consider. Consider your life expectancy as far as another state turning into a California. A friend of mine was ranting about other states turning blue until I told him he would be dead by then!

True. I've had friends move only to find out local doctors weren't accepting new patients, something to do with a mass exodus out of California overwhelming the local medical capacity.

[Garand Hunter]

I and one of the son in laws are checking out South Dakota after our october hunt in Wyo this year. The Black Hills region has beautiful country to look over and consider. First order of business is Rapid City and north of it. Tennessee is too far east and my Ya'll is very rusty now. I escaped from Texas when my Dad brought us out to California in 1945, but now Kaw lee forn yuh is bad news ! But NO never back to Texias as bugs bunny call it.

Psalm 1

[Danodog]

Originally Posted by AtomicOrange

I am one year away and have been researching Tennessee and South Dakota. Both are conservative, and tax and business friendly. Why does no-one ever mention S. Dakota? Am I missing something? Aside from good medical drawing in "liberals" I can't find anything wrong going on there. Colder weather is obvious coming from CA.

South Dakota winters are absolutely brutal. I know some don't mind the cold, but that dang wind on top of it.

[jigenax]

I was hoping to move to Nevada and telecommute from Carson City area but by the time my employer (CA State govt) can figure out labor laws for out of state telecommuting employees, my grandchildren will probably be long dead and forgotten.

I'm now back to my original plan of leaving after I reach 20 yrs of service. My initial thoughts were focused on South Dakota, Wyoming, and Texas but now Tennessee is on the map and starting to look viable.

Anyone there know if a conservative disabled vet with a State pension would be welcomed there?

Particularly if he's of Asian descent?

And dates White women?

[swruger]

Arizona; your other options have too much humidity for me. I lived in San Antonio Texas for one year in the 1980s. Humidity and I are not friends.

jus sayin

[M1NM]

Originally Posted by PaperTarget

Massachusetts. Nah, that doesn't work.

I really like the areas history but the weather sucks and every traffic engineer should be taken out and shot! We stated at a hotel last year where we had to drive past the place make a right and a loop around to line up with a light where we could turn left to get back to the hotel a block and 1/2 away.
We're going to end up in NV. No income tax reasonable property tax my health insurance will transfer there. If we could move farther than the wife's 3 hours from the grandson dictate I'd go as far as Oklahoma.

[coronaman]

Originally Posted by jigenax

I was hoping to move to Nevada and telecommute from Carson City area but by the time my employer (CA State govt) can figure out labor laws for out of state telecommuting employees, my grandchildren will probably be long dead and forgotten.

I'm now back to my original plan of leaving after I reach 20 yrs of service. My initial thoughts were focused on South Dakota, Wyoming, and Texas but now Tennessee is on the map and starting to look viable.

Anyone there know if a conservative disabled vet with a State pension would be welcomed there?

Particularly if he's of Asian descent?

And dates White women?

You would be welcomed here in the great state of Tennessee. They love veterans here.

I'm about thirty miles east of Nashville and love it here, and I was born and raised in southern California.

[Bert Gamble]

Well, is it important to you how the state votes, or how your city/town votes? If you are worrying about gun rights, I think both Texas and Arizona are safe for your lifetime even if they turn blue. Just look at Nevada. It is blue because of Las Vegas, but it is bright shiny red everywhere else and shall issue CCW is the law.

If you think of it as any state being better than California, you can pick a place you want to spend your golden years.

Oh. Texas has higher property taxes, but no state income tax, so there is that.

[Bert Gamble]

Originally Posted by jigenax

I was hoping to move to Nevada and telecommute from Carson City area but by the time my employer (CA State govt) can figure out labor laws for out of state telecommuting employees, my grandchildren will probably be long dead and forgotten.

I'm now back to my original plan of leaving after I reach 20 yrs of service. My initial thoughts were focused on South Dakota, Wyoming, and Texas but now Tennessee is on the map and starting to look viable.

Anyone there know if a conservative disabled vet with a State pension would be welcomed there?

Particularly if he's of Asian descent?

And dates White women?

Depending on your level of VA disability, you will get a discount on your property tax in Texas. If you have 100% rating, you pay no property tax. It is as simple as taking your award letter to the tax office and they do the rest. Less rating means less tax discount.

[sigstroker]

Originally Posted by Bert Gamble

Well, is it important to you how the state votes, or how your city/town votes? If you are worrying about gun rights, I think both Texas and Arizona are safe for your lifetime even if they turn blue. Just look at Nevada. It is blue because of Las Vegas, but it is bright shiny red everywhere else and shall issue CCW is the law.

Las Vegas isn't moving. State laws affect the whole state. Kalifornia had concealed carry before Arizona did. Any state that gets blue is at risk. It only takes a couple months for gun bans to be voted in.

[Ex Pat]

Originally Posted by jemswirl

..My top was Texas before I saw their property taxes, wow and they keep gong up? Any town's in Texas that don't have hight prop. taxes?..

Huh ? I'm on 20 acres with a 3000sqft home w/swimming pool (1/2 way between Dallas and Shreveport, just north of Tyler, Tx) - my property tax bills for the end of 2020 are : $3098 School & $862 County (no HOA dues) - City Services (Water/Sewer/Garbage/Tax) $51 for October - Electrics are a bit "high" (in my opinion) but not unreasonable

Just looked up a piece of junk house in Glendale, Ca (my old stomping grounds) - a very small house built in the 1940s (and really ugly) - price is over 3/4 million with taxes of approx $11000 per year

[-hanko]

Originally Posted by jemswirl

I'm a year and a half-away from retiring and want to free myself and family from commiefornia.

Scared that Arizona and Texas can turn along with Idaho from Kali libs moving up there.

Idaho is in no danger of "turning". There's a Republican super-majority in the Legislature. No Democrats in the US house or senate, and a large number of LDS folks in government. Idaho is a constitutional carry state and Idaho LE is prohibited from enforcing federal gun laws. The state Constitution forbids gun registration.

[thbat]

Been thinking about this topic to. My choice is between Reno and Dallas. Reno mostly because it is close to family here in CA. But house prices are higher compared to Dallas. TX do have high prop tax but their value is low, so kindda evens out. Dallas has big city services and served by major airport so its convenient. Cons are it is further, dry and flat.

[slamfire1]

Just found this over the weekend, it is worth looking at

State-by-State Guide to Taxes on Retirees

https://www.kiplinger.com/kiplinger-...rees/index.php

Take a look at what states tax pensions, retirement and property taxes.

[gwanghoops]

I looked into different retirement places prior to retirement and there's no way to determine with confidence:
- best location/community/politics to retire if you haven't lived there before
- what you are really going to enjoy and do in retirement
- financial costs because you don't know exactly what you'll be doing (worldwide traveling, RV, sit at home prepping...)

Wait until you retire and get into a stable retirement routine to determine your likes and dislikes and then AirBNB living in different places for months.

[sonofeugene]

How are the mosquitoes in all the discussed states? I HATE mosquitoes.

[jdogg2000]

Originally Posted by sonofeugene

How are the mosquitoes in all the discussed states? I HATE mosquitoes.

I love it here in TX but that is one thing I still hate... the mosquitoes here are voracious. They devour me in the summer here. I never got bites in LA, although i hear the mosquitoes are starting to invade there?