What to do?, 2 Democrats for Senate..

[rockD]

We have De leon and Feinswine for Senate. Both lousy candidates, both anti guns, both sanctuary state supporter, etc., all bad! We cannot not vote for either. I guess we need to look at it strategically. If we vote Feinstein, she may get impeach (hoping)later on for the Kavanaugh leaks and all the other **** that they're investigating her for , and that may open up her seat and maybe a republican can sneak in. De leon on the hand pretty much nothing on his record that can compromise his candidacy. If he got the seat, we're screwed even more.
So,...what is there to do?

[larkja]

I created a similar thread - http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1484685

Makes me sick!!!

[CessnaDriver]

Fineswine for the "win".

She is old and probably will get replaced before she can serve out her term.
Cox wins, he gets to replace her!
Newscum wins, he won't pick DeLeon, they do not like each other.

So the goal here is to send De Leon back to political obscurity as he is term limited out.
With some luck maybe Cox gets to choose.

Cold logic sucks. But there it is.

[rockD]

Originally Posted by CessnaDriver

Fineswine for the "win".

She is old and probably will get replaced before she can serve out her term.
Cox wins, he gets to replace her!
Newscum wins, he won't pick DeLeon, they do not like each other.

So the goal here is to send De Leon back to political obscurity as he is term limited out.
With some luck maybe Cox gets to choose.

Cold logic sucks. But there it is.

Good point! Fineswine then. It hurts but got to do it.

[C.G.]

Originally Posted by CessnaDriver

Fineswine for the "win".

She is old and probably will get replaced before she can serve out her term.
Cox wins, he gets to replace her!
Newscum wins, he won't pick DeLeon, they do not like each other.

So the goal here is to send De Leon back to political obscurity as he is term limited out.
With some luck maybe Cox gets to choose.

Cold logic sucks. But there it is.

Well said.

[digger2]

Nothing on deleons record? Take a look at his burying of sexual harrasment claims in the senate

[RozaShanina]

Originally Posted by CessnaDriver

Fineswine for the "win".

She is old and probably will get replaced before she can serve out her term.
Cox wins, he gets to replace her!
Newscum wins, he won't pick DeLeon, they do not like each other.

So the goal here is to send De Leon back to political obscurity as he is term limited out.
With some luck maybe Cox gets to choose.

Cold logic sucks. But there it is.

Both Feinstein and DeLeon suck, but the idea of Cox winning is laughable. Newsome like Feinstein is a wholly owned subsidiary of corporate America.

The only way corporate America loses is if the riots in the sanctuary cities Trump was talking about get bigger.

[Jimi Jah]

If you get down with the pigs you will feel dirty and the pig will enjoy it. Let the commie's here pick their own comrades.

[POLICESTATE]

Originally Posted by CessnaDriver

Fineswine for the "win".

She is old and probably will get replaced before she can serve out her term.
Cox wins, he gets to replace her!
Newscum wins, he won't pick DeLeon, they do not like each other.

So the goal here is to send De Leon back to political obscurity as he is term limited out.
With some luck maybe Cox gets to choose.

Cold logic sucks. But there it is.

Best strategy under the circumstances. DeLeon in the Senate is every bit as bad as Kamala Harris in the Senate.

[Kokopelli]

DeLeon needs to fade into political obscurity.

DiFi needs to get to the point that a Governor Cox can replace her.

That's our choices, unless DiFi pulls a Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

[larkja]

Originally Posted by RozaShanina

...but the idea of Cox winning is laughable.

That's what they said about Trump. If people believe this, they will not get out to vote. I would like to believe we still have a chance.

[M1NM]

NEVER voted for any demonrat NEVER will

[Kokopelli]

Originally Posted by larkja

That's what they said about Trump. If people believe this, they will not get out to vote. I would like to believe we still have a chance.

They laughed when Ann Coulter said Trump would win. Who's MAGA now?

[HUTCH 7.62]

Feinstein

[Dano3467]

DiFi by a landslide.

Don't want or need DeLeon..that is unless you don't want your firearms/rights any longer.

[FullMetalJacket]

If your senator must be a Democrat, choose old and spent. Curtail De Leon's ambitions.

Vote Feinstein!

[Offwidth]

Write in candidate: Cthulhu.

[Paladin]

Watch this excellent Prager U. video.



After watching it, if you believe Feinstein is a Liberal and DeLeon is a Leftist, the question pretty much answers itself: Feinstein FTW!

[bigstick61]

Leave it blank. Neither is worth a vote, and the pros and cons of voting for either kind of balance out, anyways.

[sonofeugene]

Originally Posted by CessnaDriver

Fineswine for the "win".

She is old and probably will get replaced before she can serve out her term.
Cox wins, he gets to replace her!
Newscum wins, he won't pick DeLeon, they do not like each other.

So the goal here is to send De Leon back to political obscurity as he is term limited out.
With some luck maybe Cox gets to choose.

Cold logic sucks. But there it is.

This.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by M1NM

NEVER voted for any demonrat NEVER will

Originally Posted by bigstick61

Leave it blank. Neither is worth a vote, and the pros and cons of voting for either kind of balance out, anyways.

By voting for Liberal Feinstein you are voting against Leftist DeLeon, and that is vital.

[bigstick61]

Originally Posted by Paladin

By voting for Liberal Feinstein you are voting against Leftist DeLeon, and that is vital.

LOL, they are both quite far to the Left, one just moreso than the other. When both choices are sufficiently evil, the "lesser of two evils" mantra no longer applies. Feinstein has seniority that would be lost with her gone and she has much to answer for that would make her defeat satisfying. De Leon is even more radical and would be able to sustain his rise were he to win election, but he would be at the bottom of the Senate totem pole. It's basically a wash. But, again, both are evil enough, far enough to the Left, that neither is worth voting for, and I think a large percentage of voters sitting out of that race would send more of a message than voting for either one would.

I refuse to vote for either and encourage all to do the same. The idea that an individual can strategically vote in a meaningful fashion in a large electorate is foolish, anyways.

[ja308]

Pick the lessor of 2 ! NO ONE CARES if GOP voters abstain from the fixed process. In fact democrats like it !

Im voting for Feinstein in hopes John Cox pulls an upset !

Leon should be forgotten,forever!

[Jimi Jah]

Both are "F" rated by the NRA. I will not vote for an F rated poll.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by bigstick61

LOL, they are both quite far to the Left, one just moreso than the other. When both choices are sufficiently evil, the "lesser of two evils" mantra no longer applies. Feinstein has seniority that would be lost with her gone and she has much to answer for that would make her defeat satisfying. De Leon is even more radical and would be able to sustain his rise were he to win election, but he would be at the bottom of the Senate totem pole. It's basically a wash. But, again, both are evil enough, far enough to the Left, that neither is worth voting for, and I think a large percentage of voters sitting out of that race would send more of a message than voting for either one would.

I refuse to vote for either and encourage all to do the same. The idea that an individual can strategically vote in a meaningful fashion in a large electorate is foolish, anyways.

Then you can always use other issues to decide how you vote.

Not voting is for p---ies. Don't be a p---y.

[estrom]

I don't understand the not-voting concept, especially in this case. Obviously, neither candidate will help our cause, BUT, one candidate is definitely WORSE for our cause. Therefore vote against "worse". It sucks, but that's what we have. Vote for the old bag.

[ja308]

Originally Posted by estrom

I don't understand the not-voting concept, especially in this case. Obviously, neither candidate will help our cause, BUT, one candidate is definitely WORSE for our cause. Therefore vote against "worse". It sucks, but that's what we have. Vote for the old bag.

To put the non voting issue in perspective. How many cal gunners would be bothered if the entire democrat party boycotted an election!

[MultiCaliber]

Cry. Vote DiFi/leave blank. Cry again. Move. Hopefully far away.

[stevebla]

To say DiFi is better for our cause (gun rights) is wrong she almost got Kavanaugh.

[spalterego]

The polling clearly indicates that DiFi will win by a large margin. This means that our votes are practically meaningless. We are not going to change the result, DiFi is going to win.

This frees you up to use your vote, if you wish, to send a message. You can choose to vote for DiFi to indicate she is the lesser of 2 evils. You can vote for DeLeon to protest DiFi's anti 2A history. You can write-in a candidate (I think) to make your position even more clear (i.e. write in NRA). You can abstain to indicate your contempt for the choices placed before you.

[bigstick61]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Then you can always use other issues to decide how you vote.

Not voting is for p---ies. Don't be a p---y.

What you say is nonsensical.

By all measures, both are horrendous candidates not worthy of a vote. Since there are no other choices, the only right choice is not to vote at all in that race. If you think that make someone a ***** then that says one hell of a lot about you, and not in a good way.

[bigstick61]

Originally Posted by estrom

I don't understand the not-voting concept, especially in this case. Obviously, neither candidate will help our cause, BUT, one candidate is definitely WORSE for our cause. Therefore vote against "worse". It sucks, but that's what we have. Vote for the old bag.

Both are terrible judged any way. There is no real "lesser of two evils" situation here. They are both so extremely bad that one being a tad less so is largely academic. Voting is more than just a number, it is an exercise of power and can be judged from a moral perspective. Voting for evil, especially when it will not prevent greater evils, is simply, well, evil. It has no redeeming quality.

[bigstick61]

Originally Posted by ja308

Pick the lessor of 2 ! NO ONE CARES if GOP voters abstain from the fixed process. In fact democrats like it !

Im voting for Feinstein in hopes John Cox pulls an upset !

Leon should be forgotten,forever!

Neither is significantly better than the other. Both are extremely bad. Whether or not one votes in this race has absolutely zero bearing on the gubernatorial race, so your statement makes zero sense.

[CessnaDriver]

Originally Posted by bigstick61

Neither is significantly better than the other. Both are extremely bad. Whether or not one votes in this race has absolutely zero bearing on the gubernatorial race, so your statement makes zero sense.

Fineswine if very old.
De Leon is young and term limited out.

So yes both are bad but they are also different.

One has a fast approaching expiration date
where the other could be around for eight years as Senator and then run for Governor even.

Sink De Leon now while we have the chance.

[C.G.]

As much as I hated doing it, I voted for Feinstein, the lesser of evil to come.

[bigstick61]

Originally Posted by CessnaDriver

Fineswine if very old.
De Leon is young and term limited out.

So yes both are bad but they are also different.

One has a fast approaching expiration date
where the other could be around for eight years as Senator and then run for Governor even.

Sink De Leon now while we have the chance.

He seems sunk regardless.

[Wordupmybrotha]

Feinstein is the way to go.

[Blade Gunner]

Originally Posted by Wordupmybrotha

Feinstein is the way to go.

Feinstein might not be pleasant but DeLeon is a complete leftist lunatic. When Feinstein beats him, he’s out of office with no place to go. All the State offices are locked up with incumbents for years to come. All the open or contentious house seats will be resolved. Newsom hates him, so no cushy state appointment. DeLeon ends up in the trash bin of political has beens.


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[Silent Pulse]

Don't like either of the choices. Especially Kevin De Leon. The media will just brand him as the latino obama if he gets in. He needs to stay far away from the senate.

[dchang0]

Originally Posted by stevebla

To say DiFi is better for our cause (gun rights) is wrong she almost got Kavanaugh.

This.

I was going to vote for Feinstein to block De Leon, but after Feinstein's Borking/Thomasing of Kavanaugh, I knew she was just as evil as De Leon. I left that race blank (knowing all the while that Feinstein will win anyway.)