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Old 11-25-2020, 2:59 PM
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I'm seriously considering a CCW. In that process, I'm looking at my actions, mindset and my situational awareness. If I do this, I need to know what I'll need to change, improve and or modify within myself. I feel like I've always had better than average situational awareness. I try to always be aware of the people and things around me. As of late, I've been watching people more closely. One resent trip to costco, I know I spotted one person carrying and one I was pretty sure about. Yet another who was always scanning the area like myself.

I've already identified areas where I need to improve. What I'm wondering is how others have addressed this in themselves. What exercises have you used to keep focused on your main task, yet still keep situational awareness engaged? For me, it seems like one or the other. Doing both at the same times has proved challenging.
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Keyword = Avoidance.
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I found it was a lot like hunting. Keep your ears and eyes to what is going on around you and decide what seems out of place.
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Old 11-25-2020, 7:34 PM
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Add to the above to NEVER violate the three rules of stupid.

They are as follows...

1. Do not go to stupid places
2. At stupid times
3. Where there is a good chance of there being stupid people
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Add to the above to NEVER violate the three rules of stupid.

They are as follows...

1. Do not go to stupid places
2. At stupid times
3. Where there is a good chance of there being stupid people
Spot on. Bad things happen 100x as often in predictable places. Not that a CCW is unnecessary, but you can choose to improve your chances of an uneventful day. Your call.
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Here are some I do

-Never be on cellphone when in an area I do not know
-When possible always keep distance between myself and others
-If I get a 'bad vibe' I leave
-If I see someone acting strangely I keep an eye on it or leave
-I NEVER get in any kind of arguments, I am armed so nothing is worth arguing over
- When eating out I choose seats that I am facing the door and not right next to the door
-Acknowledge people who are around me, sometimes a simple 'hello' to just let them know I see them.

Those are the once I can think of.
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Here are some I do

-Never be on cellphone when in an area I do not know
-When possible always keep distance between myself and others
-If I get a 'bad vibe' I leave
-If I see someone acting strangely I keep an eye on it or leave
-I NEVER get in any kind of arguments, I am armed so nothing is worth arguing over
- When eating out I choose seats that I am facing the door and not right next to the door
-Acknowledge people who are around me, sometimes a simple 'hello' to just let them know I see them.

Those are the once I can think of.
A great list! Little things go a long way.
One other thing I do is back.my vehicle in every time, so if I need to scoot fast, it's faster.
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Add to the above to NEVER violate the three rules of stupid.

They are as follows...

1. Do not go to stupid places
2. At stupid times
3. Where there is a good chance of there being stupid people
I agree 100% with your 3 simple rules.
I used to go places before carrying that I would always have my knife out.
One day I told myself this is stupid..
Today I'm a little smarter
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A great list! Little things go a long way.
One other thing I do is back.my vehicle in every time, so if I need to scoot fast, it's faster.

My wife finally backing in .
It just safer in many ways.
I also park in less crowded areas.
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I'm seriously considering a CCW. In that process, I'm looking at my actions, mindset and my situational awareness. If I do this, I need to know what I'll need to change, improve and or modify within myself. I feel like I've always had better than average situational awareness. I try to always be aware of the people and things around me. As of late, I've been watching people more closely. One resent trip to costco, I know I spotted one person carrying and one I was pretty sure about. Yet another who was always scanning the area like myself.

I've already identified areas where I need to improve. What I'm wondering is how others have addressed this in themselves. What exercises have you used to keep focused on your main task, yet still keep situational awareness engaged? For me, it seems like one or the other. Doing both at the same times has proved challenging.
If you've been able to avoid getting into a fist fight as an adult then you're probably going to be all right.

Situational awareness is always dialed up or down depending on surroundings. Listen to your inner voice that starts getting louder and act accordingly. Intuition plays a bigger part that we think it does.

I've been carrying in Kali since the 80's. Thinking too much can over torque your emotions and survival instincts. The more you carry the more you'll find your balance.
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I’ll add only this.

If you carry because you’re going somewhere that you “think” you might need it, rethink your plans.
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Add to the above to NEVER violate the three rules of stupid.

They are as follows...

1. Do not go to stupid places
2. At stupid times
3. Where there is a good chance of there being stupid people
I was always taught that it was the 4 Rules of Stupid:
Don't go to stupid places
At stupid times
With stupid People
Doing stupid things

I would also suggest subscribing to the ASP YT Channel. He details in very good detail everyday situations that go horribly wrong for someone. He will breakdown both the good and the bad. It has tremendously helped me to identify areas where I'm lacking, how to improve and even equipment to have on my person. High lumen/candela light (invaluable for a LOT of things), pepper spray & a individual first aid kit (not just band-aids). A lot of things that cover not just when out and about, but also when at home or in the car etc.

He also goes over and breaks down LEO encounters, the good, the bad and the very ugly.
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The stupid rules are all good and I try to follow them every day.
Unfortunately for me, I am not retired and my work dictates when and where I go even to the location that is an undesirable place to be.

Yes, people have told me to find another job but I am making a good living doing my job as a service engineer.

In addition to the rules, I observe the surroundings before heading to my car; what are my exit routes if things got worse; once I got in the car, leave quickly.

De escalation and escape are my main objective but sometimes you have to stand your ground if the above are not available. Fight or flight scenario.


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I'm seriously considering a CCW. In that process, I'm looking at my actions, mindset and my situational awareness. If I do this, I need to know what I'll need to change, improve and or modify within myself. I feel like I've always had better than average situational awareness. I try to always be aware of the people and things around me. As of late, I've been watching people more closely. One resent trip to costco, I know I spotted one person carrying and one I was pretty sure about. Yet another who was always scanning the area like myself.

I've already identified areas where I need to improve. What I'm wondering is how others have addressed this in themselves. What exercises have you used to keep focused on your main task, yet still keep situational awareness engaged? For me, it seems like one or the other. Doing both at the same times has proved challenging.
I won't be able to enjoy conversation with my wife and friends if I'm constantly looking for threats.
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One thing I would like to add.

Once you have detected a possible threat, what's the plan?

Develop a set of code words, like two unrelated words and everyone in your family unit should know them. Words like Sacramento- Spaghetti. Can't use real world phrases like ice cream.

But the code words are verbalized, move quickly in the opposite direction.

Awareness without a plan just means you see your demise as it happens........

Best plan is avoidance.
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I won't be able to enjoy conversation with my wife and friends if I'm constantly looking for threats.
It is not about being paranoid. It is about being aware of your surroundings!
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Head on a swivel and all that...

Carry pepper spray as well if you aren't already. It'll give you another option.
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If you've been able to avoid getting into a fist fight as an adult then you're probably going to be all right.



Situational awareness is always dialed up or down depending on surroundings. Listen to your inner voice that starts getting louder and act accordingly. Intuition plays a bigger part that we think it does.



I've been carrying in Kali since the 80's. Thinking too much can over torque your emotions and survival instincts. The more you carry the more you'll find your balance.

Very true. The more you carry, the more it becomes part of you. No need to be amped up unnecessarily. Just a quick scan, look for things out of place, people acting erratically and go about your business.


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In addition to the input already given,

When I go to a restaurant I always sit facing the entry.

Always be vigilant about groups of males.

Critic other males fashion, e.g why does buddy have a trench coat/thick jacket on a hot day? It's not that cold why is your hoodie up?

Body language is important.

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