"Under God" Removed from Pledge

[harbormaster]

at the DNC.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ng-the-pledge/

Dear Christians don't let them win.

[tziggs]

Meh, as patriotic as I am, Biblical Christianity isn't a political movement...it's an individual movement in the hearts of people.

Forcing people to say their "nation is under God" when the nation is clearly not under God, seems like a misguided focus. Christians should be sharing the gospel (and praying for those who are unsaved) so their hearts are changed by Jesus. THAT is where the change will come from.

I truly hope that one day people can truly say that the USA is "under God" (for realz)

[78marz]

It's not a rewrite it's the original pledge. I agree with separation of church and state and agree it should be officially reverted to the original.

[wpage]

Under Allah?

[General]

Originally Posted by 78marz

It's not a rewrite it's the original pledge. I agree with separation of church and state and agree it should be officially reverted to the original.

God is not a church so...

[larkja]

The original pledge read:

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

I remember my dad telling me he remembered reciting it in school without "under God." That was added in the 50's. Interestingly, the original pledge was written by a socialist minister.

https://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm

In 1954, in response to the Communist threat of the times, President Eisenhower encouraged Congress to add the words "under God," creating the 31-word pledge we say today.

[Barang]

demonrat party had voted God out 3X during their last convention. 3X! they are godless and demonic party. look at what they support:
abortion
gay marriage
trans-woman competing in women's sports.
antifa
blm
looters/rioters
illegal aliens
releasing criminals due to covid
banning church to open while allowing abortion clinics to remain open
.......

[The War Wagon]

I'm surprised SlowJoe didn't change it to, "one nation under allah."

He seems keen on having MORE mohammedanism taught in grade skrule.


Bet they WON'T be teaching THIS proud moment in moahmmedan/American relations.

[harbormaster]

Thought the left was in favor of change for the better?

Originally Posted by larkja

The original pledge read:

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

I remember my dad telling me he remembered reciting it in school without "under God." That was added in the 50's. Interestingly, the original pledge was written by a socialist minister.

https://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm

[Jeepergeo]

The founders clearly intended for God, the father, to be part of every action in the U.S. If it had not been for the reverence to the One God, this country would not have been formed they way it was.

[vintagearms]

Originally Posted by 78marz

It's not a rewrite it's the original pledge. I agree with separation of church and state and agree it should be officially reverted to the original.

There was never any intention of making a separation of Church and state, only no state sponsored religion. People don't pay attention to history anymore?

[Garand Hunter]

The ONLY restriction in the Constitution regarding " RELIGION " is on Congress not about keeping God and the gov separate. Read it again. There is NOT a separation of church and state in the First Amendment. AS for the original pledge I recall the addition of " under God " being added when I was in the 6th grade in the 60's.

Psalm 1

[Dvrjon]

Source.

1893: If you like your Constitution in Originalist terms, then you should also like the original 1893 Pledge:

“I pledge allegiance to my flag and the Republic for which it stands—one Nation indivisible—with liberty and justice for all.”

1923: “my flag” was replaced by “the flag of the United States” because some foreign-born people might have in mind the flag of the country of their birth, instead of the U.S. flag.

1924: “of America” was added after “United States.”

1942: Congress officially recognized the Pledge.

1945: The official name of The Pledge of Allegiance was adopted.

1951: Knights of Columbus added “under God” for their uses and petitioned the Congress to accept the change.

1954: President Eisenhower signed legislation to codify “under God” in the current version.

So, the Roman Catholics, through the KoC changed the Pledge by driving the inclusion of “under God” 50+ years after its writing.

The Islamists (and others) appear to be working from much of the original script.

[kingransom]

2 less words for Nancy to slur. Clearly the motive behind the omission

[Wordupmybrotha]

Originally Posted by vintagearms

There was never any intention of making a separation of Church and state, only no state sponsored religion. People don't pay attention to history anymore?

^^THIS

Originally Posted by Garand Hunter

The ONLY restriction in the Constitution regarding " RELIGION " is on Congress not about keeping God and the gov separate. Read it again. There is NOT a separation of church and state in the First Amendment.

^^THIS

I think it's intentional that people misunderstand this in order to keep God out everywhere.

[IronsightsRifleman]

"And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle." - - George Washington

[Garand Hunter]

Good to see the Bros who have actually read the wording of the 1st amendment sounding ( typing ) off on this topic. Thanks.

Psalm 1

[CVShooter]

The "Establishment Clause" was about not allowing the government to sponsor or endorse a religion. Too much blood has already been shed on that idea. But you can keep religion out of politics about as easy as you can keep flies off $***. Religion always turns political. But it's much easier to keep a clean environment -- one where religion is kept out of the political process, at least on the surface.

For those who think that our country was founded on Christianity, that's only a half-truth. SOME of the founders were Christian. Some were staunch Christians. But many were deists. God, to these folks, wasn't the Christian or Jewish YHWH. It was a more passive, distant, benign "providence" or something of that nature. Some were only even deists in public but privately pretty darned atheist. As many of you know, Jefferson had a copy of the Bible where he cut out or redacted all the miracles & obvious supernatural events. Those founding statesmen of our country were a complicated & motley crew -- especially when it came to ideas of the divine.

As for the "under God" phrase, as many have pointed out, this was just the latest revision to the pledge. It was added to help distinguish us from "those Godless Communists."

[pennstater]

Originally Posted by Barang

demonrat party had voted God out 3X during their last convention. 3X! they are godless and demonic party. look at what they support:
abortion
gay marriage
trans-woman competing in women's sports.
antifa
blm
looters/rioters
illegal aliens
releasing criminals due to covid
banning church to open while allowing abortion clinics to remain open
.......

Maybe some here should read this post again. Spot on Barang.

[Barang]

Originally Posted by CVShooter

As for the "under God" phrase, as many have pointed out, this was just the latest revision to the pledge. It was added to help distinguish us from "those Godless Communists."

and so they are announcing to the world that they are now officially godless commies.

[Barang]

Originally Posted by pennstater

Maybe some here should read this post again. Spot on Barang.

any chrisitians who support this godless party is no friend of God and Jesus. yes! i'm making a judgement based on their fruits and what the Father and the Son determined to be sin.

[mossy]

Originally Posted by sgt1372

BS. Just Repub lies to feed the base.

You do understand that the DNC let a woman convicted of kidnapping, torture and murder speak at the 2020 convention right? What kind of retired LEO are you?

[Jeepergeo]

Originally Posted by mossy

You do understand that the DNC let a woman convicted of kidnapping, torture and murder speak at the 2020 convention right? What kind of retired LEO are you?

One that thinks being a retired LEO earns a special place in society. To most of us mere mortals, it does not mean jack diddly squat.

[CAL.BAR]

Originally Posted by wpage

Under Allah?

EXACTLY. Would you prefer them to say "under Allah"?

[Garand Hunter]

# 25, Jeepergo, CORRECT !

Psalm 1

[Barang]

Originally Posted by CAL.BAR

EXACTLY. Would you prefer them to say "under Allah"?

i support that 100% let them worship and bow down to him. go for it dems, go for it!