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Old 03-05-2021, 9:29 AM
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That's a frivolous claim and now days in California wouldn't be accepted by the court, IMO. I not giving legal advice, just from what I've known.
The court allow frivolous claims every day and you still have to defend them. The courts rarely kick a civil claim out at filing.

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Who pays for the landowners lawyer when they take you to court regardless? Itís not about winning, itís about court costs and representation. Then you have to counter sue for lawyer fees and court costs if you win. Easier to just say no.
This is why I have an umbrella policy beyond my net worth.

My insurance company would pay for my lawyer.

Though I don't know what a policy would cost for a ranch and if allowing hunters on charging them would violate the policy.
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Old 03-06-2021, 7:45 AM
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This is why I have an umbrella policy beyond my net worth.

My insurance company would pay for my lawyer.

Though I don't know what a policy would cost for a ranch and if allowing hunters on charging them would violate the policy.

Some of the Ag insurance companies will allow you to endorse it to the policy, if not you can buy a separate policy for the exposure.


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Old 03-06-2021, 7:56 AM
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If you archery hunt, donít mind dealing with homeless and are in to a lot of research: there are SoCal hogs. I have had success, but the homeless situation and concern about having my vehicle vandalized have made it not worth my while anymore. Access points are very difficult and the horseback riders will harass you if they see you.

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Old 03-06-2021, 4:43 PM
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Yeah, end of Arlington, the CDFW held hunts on the Deanza Golf Course side, the horse people complained, was a postcard lottery, 1998. I see them often at Vanburean over crossing.
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Old 03-06-2021, 6:25 PM
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What the F**k is it with horse people. We all love animals, but typically inner city "horse people" are the ultra liberal type. What happen to cowgirls and cowboys that did what it took to preserve the land and maintain a healthy ecosystem?
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I have been looking all over in Norcal for pigs. Just was in the Cache creek area, not a single sign. I did however see a huge heard of elk!
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I have been looking all over in Norcal for pigs. Just was in the Cache creek area, not a single sign. I did however see a huge heard of elk!
Scout around Indian Valley Reservoir.
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Old 03-09-2021, 7:53 AM
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Scout around Indian Valley Reservoir.
Have you ever seen them around there this time of the year? Or more so in the summer?
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Have you ever seen them around there this time of the year? Or more so in the summer?
Your chances of finding sign on the west side of IVR and off highway 16 are much better. I've seen them there in the area summer and winter, at Lake Berryessa below the dam, and around Turtle Rock Cafe, off SilveradoTrail too. But I've only killed them incidentally while hunting deer, one in California and one in Mississippi. I hunted them for years, gave up targeting them on public land.
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Your chances of finding sign on the west side of IVR and off highway 16 are much better. I've seen them there in the area summer and winter, at Lake Berryessa below the dam, and around Turtle Rock Cafe, off SilveradoTrail too. But I've only killed them incidentally while hunting deer, one in California and one in Mississippi. I hunted them for years, gave up targeting them on public land.
No you havenít. Iíve lived here for 20 years and never seen a hog here. Plus, after the Pawnee Fire, there is no brush for them to hide in.

I have no idea why you tell people this crap. Pigs are much more abundant off 16 and west in the Cache Creek wildlife area. Thereís a reason even I drive down to Monterey to hunt pigs.
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The Govt trappers didn't get all of em
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I sell commercial insurance. The court system in every state would not toss that suit. I heard about a landowner in AL who had to pay $5m to a trespasser who impaled themselves on a fence post on the middle of the night. The reason was that the posts weren't reflective. Court didn't care that they were trespassing.

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The Govt trappers didn't get all of em
No, they didn’t. The fires have affected hunting a lot. In my area. east of IVR in Colusa county holds pigs. Especially out by Jerry Browns ranch.
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Geez. Guided hunts are expensive. I say, take the hike in public land and hunt for "free". $500 for a guaranteed handicap, bleh. Might as well tie the hog up to a post and let me shoot at it from 10 yards. Where's the thrill in that?
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Geez. Guided hunts are expensive. I say, take the hike in public land and hunt for "free". $500 for a guaranteed handicap, bleh. Might as well tie the hog up to a post and let me shoot at it from 10 yards. Where's the thrill in that?
Youíre clearly not a Hunter. First of all, making 20 trips for 10 hunts will cost you that in gas since your chances of seeing a public land hog is at about a 2% chance. Itís actually cheaper to pay for access than it is private land.

Try hunting in Texas sometime where all hunts require some kind of trespass fee since all land is private. Pigs like prime land, generally prime land is private in this state. Thatís where the pigs are.
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Old 03-09-2021, 9:15 PM
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You’re clearly not a Hunter. First of all, making 20 trips for 10 hunts will cost you that in gas since your chances of seeing a public land hog is at about a 2% chance. It’s actually cheaper to pay for access than it is private land.

Try hunting in Texas sometime where all hunts require some kind of trespass fee since all land is private. Pigs like prime land, generally prime land is private in this state. That’s where the pigs are.
I'm more of an upland game bird guy. D16 has been reasonable for my purposes.

But I understand where you're coming from when you put it that way.
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Old 03-09-2021, 9:16 PM
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I wasted so much money and time trying to hunt public land. I ended up getting in on a lease for some private land and couldn’t be happier.
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There's a law in California that protects land owners from lawsuits brought on by anyone participating in recreational activities that could result in injury or damage. It's the person that caused it fault.
Since when does that matter? Morons sue for things that they supposedly ďcanít sue forĒ all the time, and win. All it takes is a good lawyer vs a bad lawyer.
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Since this is the current active thread, anyone carry a handgun while hunting?
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Since this is the current active thread, anyone carry a handgun while hunting?
On one occasion I carried a handgun when I was helping to retrieve a deer in Grizzly country after dark. Aside from that, no - with the exception that I usually carry a .22 revolver when rabbit hunting, so I can finish off cripples without another blast from the shotgun.
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I sell commercial insurance. The court system in every state would not toss that suit. I heard about a landowner in AL who had to pay $5m to a trespasser who impaled themselves on a fence post on the middle of the night. The reason was that the posts weren't reflective. Court didn't care that they were trespassing.

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That's BS, California stopped that a long time ago, the south took that lawsuit BS over.
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American hunting lease association has packages starting at $215 for 499 acres and goes up from there includes 5000med per and 2 million cap. Includes tree stands and atv use. Covers up to 7 landowners.

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Yes you can carry a handgun while hunting and fishing . Better to read the dfw regs on this.
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That sounds like a winner Tony. Have you done it before? Plus a tip for the guide and workers right. Thanks
Save your money I went there one time right before Christmas in 2014 and it was a waste of my money . I lived literally 10 minutes from there in Moreno Valley so I left my house at 6am stopped at the Arco Gas station on Moreno Beach Drive to get ice for the cooler got a cup of coffee got to the ranch , walked around for 5 minutes , shot a pig the probably would of let me pet it if I tried , it got skinned and quartered put in the I chest and I was back home by 8 am . It would of been cheaper for me to buy a grain fed hog and quarter it myself . If you are looking for a real hunt this is not the place .I left that place feeling like I killed an animal at the petting zoo . You will get a work out from climbing those steep hills though . I am not knocking the Big Horn Canyon Ranch but I would not do that again . Just my 2 cents .
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Save your money I went there one time right before Christmas in 2014 and it was a waste of my money . I lived literally 10 minutes from there in Moreno Valley so I left my house at 6am stopped at the Arco Gas station on Moreno Beach Drive to get ice for the cooler got a cup of coffee got to the ranch , walked around for 5 minutes , shot a pig the probably would of let me pet it if I tried , it got skinned and quartered put in the I chest and I was back home by 8 am .
With the exception of the possibility of petting a pig, you pretty much summed up my experience with a guided hunt out of King City. The guide put us on pigs so fast it was over almost before we got there. We were back at the Denny's having breakfast by 8:30am.

Very successful hunt with a guide that knew where the pigs were......... but very unsatisfying at the same time. Honestly, I'd rather wander Liggett and find them on my own, or not.
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That's BS, California stopped that a long time ago, the south took that lawsuit BS over.
It is still happening in ca too. I see these lawsuits all over the country all the time. The court system is now a deep pocket pays legal system rather than actually looking at who was at fault. CA has been doing that the longest so there is more case precedent, but it hasn't changed here.

And I don't disagree with you that it is BS that the landowner got stuck footing that bill, but it is the world we live in.

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