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Old 09-10-2019, 3:46 PM
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Well last night I was driving out of Temecula towards Anza when a deer decided to run out in front of me. I tried my best not to hit it but couldn't avoid it.

All air bags deployed and my vehicle shut down. Luckily a good guy pulled over to help me get out of the road.

I contacted the CHP and a motor arrived shortly thereafter. After he asked if I was okay (which I was), I handed him my CDL and Riv Co CCW permit and told him I needed to disclose that I was carrying (at the time I didn't remember if it was mandatory or not to notify during an official contact so I played it safe).

The officer took my CDL, then looked at my permit, he handed the permit back to me and said he didn't need it. We talked CCW (he was pro) and firearms until the tow arrived.

I say all in all a very positive interaction.

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Ok, serious question - what did you do with the venison?
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Old 09-10-2019, 3:52 PM
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Ok, serious question - what did you do with the venison?
LOL, my nephew asked the same question....I have zero idea where it ended up. I hit its hind end with my right front. My Patriot kept rolling. That road is extremely dark.
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FYI, the state of California does not have a duty to notify. HOWEVER, out of common courtesy, it's a good practice to do so. Most rank & file LEO are pro-2A.
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Each encounter I or my wife had, we let them know out of courtesy, and in each case the Peace Officers were courteous and appreciative.

Last thing we want to do is make their lives a.y harder.

Also, we travel a lot, and in those states you have to let them know, so it's a good habit to get into so we don't forget in those states.
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FYI, the state of California does not have a duty to notify. HOWEVER, out of common courtesy, it's a good practice to do so. Most rank & file LEO are pro-2A.
CA doesn’t but your IA may have a policy so you have to inform. I agree, still good practice and common courtesy.
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The officer took my CDL, then looked at my permit, he handed the permit back to me and said he didn't need it. We talked CCW (he was pro) and firearms until the tow arrived.

I say all in all a very positive interaction.
Why is this surprising to you? Carrying with a valid CCW permit is legal.
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Why is this surprising to you? Carrying with a valid CCW permit is legal.

Where does it say I was "surprised"? I was just advising of my encounter like several Calguns members have done in the past, some positive, some not so positive.

I just had a positive contact and wanted to pass it on.

I've read where members were disarmed during the encounter and handed back an empty pistol and told not to reload until the officer left.

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Thanks for sharing your experience MURRIETA45. I train Jiu Jitsu with several LEOs from various agencies and each one agrees that there is no legal obligation to notify but that they appreciate the courtesy of being notified. It goes a long way with them.
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FYI, the state of California does not have a duty to notify. HOWEVER, out of common courtesy, it's a good practice to do so. Most rank & file LEO are pro-2A.
Your IA may have a policy, which requires a CCW holder to notify. In OC that is the case. Failure to do so could result in loss of permit.
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Thanks for sharing your experience MURRIETA45. I train Jiu Jitsu with several LEOs from various agencies and each one agrees that there is no legal obligation to notify but that they appreciate the courtesy of being notified. It goes a long way with them.

Your welcome Sir.
Personally, I will notify even if not required by my I.A..


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That turned out much better for you than it did for Philando Castille.
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That turned out much better for you than it did for Philando Castille.
Much different circumstances. Also, regardless of anything do NOT reach for your wallet after telling a LEO that you have a gun.

The OP had his CDL and CCW out before the encounter.
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That turned out much better for you than it did for Philando Castille.
That's a bizarre thing to say.
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That's a bizarre thing to say.

That poster is out in left field all the time.
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Emphasis on "left".
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another good reason to mention you’re carrying is if the gun prints or becomes visible to the officer, especially in the OP situation where you step out of the vehicle to demonstrate where a deer came from and may have fled to...
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FYI, the state of California does not have a duty to notify. HOWEVER, out of common courtesy, it's a good practice to do so. Most rank & file LEO are pro-2A.
Orange County requires notification of CCW issuance whether carrying or not, as of my recent renewal in May of this year.

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Old 09-17-2019, 11:46 AM
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Orange County requires notification of CCW issuance whether carrying or not, as of my recent renewal in May of this year.

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Can confirm, OCSD is really big on notifying. They also want us to email them a written statement after ANY official interaction with a uniformed peace officer. Not sure why this is such a big deal—perhaps for analytics/data about CCW holders’ behavior.
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Orange County requires notification of CCW issuance whether carrying or not, as of my recent renewal in May of this year.

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Good to know. I meant the state specifically doesn't have a statute, but of course each issuing agency can implement their own policies. It's a good idea to inform anyways in my opinion.
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That turned out much better for you than it did for Philando Castille.

There's always one...

Of course sfdickbag fails to mention that Philander was specifically told not to reach for his CCW, which he then did and that Philander's CCW was not in effect at the time he was (rightfully) killed, because he was under the influence of marijuana at the time of his premature demise.
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Orange County requires notification of CCW issuance whether carrying or not, as of my recent renewal in May of this year.

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You have to notify the OCSD of the law enforcement contact. But if you're not carrying, you don't have to identify as a CCW licensee. Here's the regulation handed out by the OCSD:

"If contacted by a law enforcement officer for any reason, and the license holder is armed, the license holder shall immediately inform the officer they are a CCW licensee and when the officer requests the license hoder's CCW license, the license holder will provide their CCW license as proof they are legally carrying a concealed weapon."
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