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Old 06-11-2019, 5:25 PM
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Default 1 M.O.A versus 1 MIL at 1000 yards?

I was just taught by a super sniper that 1 MIL is no longer 3.5 times larger than 1 MOA at 1000 yards.
When did the measurement system change as this guy is the end all know all of all things sniper/tactical?
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Standard or NATO mil?

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A Radian is the angle made by taking the radius of a circle and wrapping it along the circle's edge. Therefore 1 Radian is equal to (180/π) degrees. A standard milliradian is 1/1000 of this value. A NATO Mil, however, is 1/6400 of a circle
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Interesting, I've never heard of NATO mils until now.
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What's the mil:moa ratio at 999 yards?
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For my creedmoor it's 26.7 moa vs 7.8 mil for 1k yards
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Yeah your results mimick mine but according to this god of all things tactical the two are almost identical.
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Standard or NATO mil?

Definition:

A Radian is the angle made by taking the radius of a circle and wrapping it along the circle's edge. Therefore 1 Radian is equal to (180/π) degrees. A standard milliradian is 1/1000 of this value. A NATO Mil, however, is 1/6400 of a circle
Don't forget Warsaw Pact mils.
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I was just taught by a super sniper that 1 MIL is no longer 3.5 times larger than 1 MOA at 1000 yards.
When did the measurement system change as this guy is the end all know all of all things sniper/tactical?
This guy must be a Calguns member
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Old 06-13-2019, 5:29 AM
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Know he has his own website.
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Technically moa is more precise with .25 clicks which is why you have to dial more where .1 mil you dial less ( smaller numbers). They both work great, it's just personal preference. If you shoot PRS matches for example then you might want to go mils as everyone else is generally using mils and it makes it easier to communicate.
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Technically moa is more precise with .25 clicks
Hmmm......" technically" more precise?
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Yeah lots of myths out there about giving corrections.
If someone gives me a correction of 3 moa I dial 3 moa regardless of the scopes magnification setting on a sfp scope.
My scopes use 1/8 moa turrets not 1/4 and 24 clicks at 12 power is the same as 24 clicks at 36 power.
If your spotter knows what they are doing no issues.
If you have to rely on someone other than your own spotter good luck as most don't know where you hit but will still make a call.
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I was just taught by a super sniper that 1 MIL is no longer 3.5 times larger than 1 MOA at 1000 yards.
When did the measurement system change as this guy is the end all know all of all things sniper/tactical?
If this guy is the end all know all of all things sniper/tactical, why didnít you ask him?
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If this guy is the end all know all of all things sniper/tactical, why didnít you ask him?
I just spit up my coffee. Thanks!
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He wouldn't allow me to.
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I was just taught by a super sniper that 1 MIL is no longer 3.5 times larger than 1 MOA at 1000 yards.
When did the measurement system change as this guy is the end all know all of all things sniper/tactical?
Maybe his point is that the difference between the real conversion value and the rough conversion value of 3.5 becomes measurable, and thus significant, at some point before 1000 yds.
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Then you have scopes that have 1/4 MOA =1/4" at 100yds, which is not true "minute of angle". The error is magnified at 1000yds.
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Old 06-18-2019, 8:31 AM
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Yep that was the genius. But now he is saying something different yet again.
Dunning-Kruger affect?
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all about the decimals and round off.

for 1.04" at 100 yards, the .04 is negligible and is usually rounded off to 1"
at longer distances, this becomes significant.

https://www.guns.com/news/2017/11/01/mil-vs-moa
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Old 06-18-2019, 9:57 AM
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The video is correct his message must have been posted while he was drinking heavily.
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Don't forget Warsaw Pact mils.
What about puppy mills?
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