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Old 02-15-2020, 12:02 PM
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Default 2020 Gun Records Restoration and Preservation Act (Durbin)

"Senators introduce bill to disclose federal gun records, tracing data"

Waiting for a bill number.


Joining (Dick) Durbin and Bob Menendez in cosponsoring the Senate bill are Senators Cory Booker, Richard Blumenthal, Ed Markey, Kamala Harris, Kirsten Gillibrand and Chris Murphy.
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Old 02-15-2020, 2:17 PM
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Old 02-15-2020, 4:30 PM
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Default What Is This: Gun Records Restoration and Preservation Act

Democratic senators apparently proposed this yesterday. Is this just a fancy name for federal gun registration and a database?

A bill to allow for the preservation and disclosure of federal gun data was introduced by two U.S. senators on Capitol Hill.

If approved, the Gun Records Restoration and Preservation Act would repeal the following Tiahrt provisions:

End the prohibition on ATF from releasing firearm trace data for use by cities, states, researchers, litigants, and members of the public.

End the requirement for the FBI to destroy all approved gun purchaser records within 24 hours of approval.

End the provision that makes it extremely difficult for ATF to retrieve firearms from prohibited persons who mistakenly sold guns or from gun owners who become ineligible to possess guns.

End the prohibition on ATF requiring gun dealers to submit their inventories to law enforcement. (Gun dealer inventories facilitate enforcement of the federal law requiring dealers to report the loss or theft of firearms and help law enforcement oversee the more than 50,000 firearms dealers nationwide. According to a 2008 analysis by the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, more than 30,000 guns in the inventories of firearms dealers were unaccounted for in 2007.)

End the prohibition on public disclosure of data on multiple handgun sales, as well as gun sales information dealers are required to keep that may be required to be reported to the U.S. Attorney General for determining the disposition of one or more firearms in the course of a bona fide criminal investigation.
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Old 02-15-2020, 4:42 PM
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It is the same as this;

Which is BTW just another COC.

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Old 02-15-2020, 4:43 PM
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Write or call your Senator, and POLITELY tell them, to stick it where the sun DON'T shine.
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Originally Posted by L84CABO View Post
Democratic senators apparently proposed this yesterday. Is this just a fancy name for federal gun registration and a database?
For now, I don't think that was the objective; though I do feel that it is likely an incremental step in that direction. Remember that the Tiahrt Amendment was intended as...

...a provision of the U.S. Department of Justice appropriations bill that prohibits the National Tracing Center of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) from releasing information from its firearms trace database to anyone other than a law enforcement agency or prosecutor in connection with a criminal investigation. This precludes gun trace data from being used in academic research of gun use in crime. Additionally, the law blocks any data legally released from being admissible in civil lawsuits against gun sellers or manufacturers...
I suspect it's another instance of "unintended consequences" by short-sighted Democrat anxious to virtue signal, appease a base, and/or do something. In the interest of obtaining 'data' to 'prove' (media spin) the righteousness of their anti-civil rights cause, they care little for the chaos that would be unleashed.

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Old 02-16-2020, 9:07 AM
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Election year BS to motivate their base next November.
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