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Concealed Carry Holsters, Equipment and Accessories Questions, answers and discussions regarding equipment specific to concealed carry. |
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Lighted Pistol
I'm approaching this backwards. What pistols with a picatiny flashlight have a readily available holster? Would a "universal" holster be the best path if you have multiple lighted pistols?
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Well the most popular pistol out there is Glock. And the most popular light is Surefire and then probably Streamlight. So if you don't stray too far off the beaten path, you shouldn't have too many problems.
And with the above said, I haven't had any problems finding holsters to fit my M&P's w/surefire. YMMV. Disclaimer: Whether the gun is on the roster, however, if another mater entirely.
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Pick the gun you use most, and if it's my shop or some one else buy the right holster. The right holster improves performance, comfort, and safety. Then ask why are you carrying a light on a CCW gun anyway. Yes I know that all the cool ex Rangers, MARSOC and so forth do, but they are in the business of training their on kind and LEO's in duty situation defense. Since your not supposed to point your gun at anything your don't intending to destroy, and you bring startle response into play as well as potential legal questions on your eyesight under less than optimal conditions, why aren't you just carrying a light on your belt or in your pocket. They are light enough and small enough these days. |
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This is bad advice IMHO. So now you need to use one hand to shoot and one had try grab a light to use? I know many do, but why is using a weapon mounted light a worse idea. It free’s up the other hand to get a better grip on the weapon. Easier to use for many. And what if one hand goes down? You have to think of all scenarios not just the ideal ones like having enough time to grab a flashlight and having both hands available. That’s on top of the tactics needed for that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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That being said, my HD gun is a 1911 with TLR-1 |
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This is a heavily debated issue...
Lots of people with different opinions on it as well.
I tend to lean on the side of rather have it and not need, than need and not have. I trained for many years shooting my pistol one handed with the flashlight in my other (I'm old, this was before WML's) It's totally doable, but if given the choice, I'd prefer to have a nice two handed grip on my pistol. Glock, M&P, Sig, & HK, Beretta are the ones that come to mind first for holsters with lights. Most manufacturers will do lightbearing holsters for Surefire and Streamlight WML's at minimum. With the smaller WML's like the Surefire XC1 and the Olight PL-Valkyrie Mini the old bulkiness of the weapon with light protruding out past the barrel is over. I know that was a deal breaker for many CCW folks ( plus the added bulk and weight on a CC.) More than 50 % of my life is spent in darkness though so for me it was a no brainer. 300 - 400 lumens are also plenty bright enough for clearing small to medium spaces . Not gonna replace a flashlight for LE, but as I am now a parent and guardian, I often times have one hand controlling a hyper 2 year old. Sometimes both hands just aren't free in life. Just a opinion though. Last edited by Daze; 10-29-2018 at 11:16 AM.. |
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If you go training scenario's run in the dark (even among professionals) where you can be shot (electronically, simunition, paintball) you will shoot when the person suddenly appears in the light. My only question to you is how often have you shot night scenarios. (they are fun) hint if you have a handheld light have a lanyard it makes reloading easier. If you have a weapons mounted light do you leave it on, use it as a quick on quick off, have you been professionally trained in it's use? I offer the information based on experience, and study. Remember I run a CCW shop, and my shop is inside a training establishment that trains everyone from novices, LEO and operators. Each has a different reason, all of the LEO's and Operators carry a weapons mounted light you could argue, but they all carry a hand held, and for searches you need to guess which one they use. Yep handheld. It's even in the policy documents for a number of agencies such as LAPD. So I am good with being disagreed with I am not perfect, and my advice isn't right for everyone especially since were here on the internet and I have worked you through training to see what your thought process, experience level and problem solving are. The prevents anything I say from being 100%. I fully respect your position, and appreciate the civil way in which you approached the conversation. |
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My concern is when the 2 year old is 16, and sneaks out or tells a friend to come over (or that boy friend girl friend thing) than can never happen to us, but the list is long. Stay safe, train hard. |
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Now admittedly this is aimed at law enforcement not civilians. As civilians we aren't likely in a pursuit and apprehension mode. However the instruction is valid and the discussion on light use is worth listening to if just as a data point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMyLyzgeAi0
By offering this I am not suggesting you have to agree, however Travis Haley does a good job at looking at the mechanics and efficacy of tactics. If nothing else he has been there done that and has the documented proof, and background, so at least at this time its pretty good. |
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Necropost. Let it die.
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