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Old 09-25-2023, 9:13 PM
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Default How Much Gun Safe is Enough?

In light of what has gone on with Liberty Safe, I am considering my safe choices and thinking about swapping in a higher quality safe into the mix.

I wanted to get feedback from the crowd. I am 95% concerned about burglary. I live 2 mins from a fire station and in one of the safest towns in California.

Gun safes are in my garage and somewhat visible. They are also bolted to the floor.

Is an RSC enough? I was thinking of TL-15 or 30 if I can find a used one. Willing to spend $3500 or so, but want all the security I can get. Not too concerned about looks.

Also, did you guys buy new or used?

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Old 09-25-2023, 9:14 PM
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Whatever you do, never buy a safe from Cannon
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Old 09-27-2023, 9:01 AM
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Whatever you do, never buy a safe from Cannon
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Old 09-25-2023, 9:38 PM
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There are projections out on the interwebz about how much safe you should have for the dollar amount you are trying to protect. Might be worth some googling and see if that helps you at all.

Much may also depend on what the rest of your security situation looks like. Good locks, good reinforced doors, windows with security film, good fences, lights, camera, security system, dog, etc., It's all about layers, buying yourself a bit more time, and making your place less attractive than your neighbors.

When you consider that a TL15 safe is only supposed to withstand a 15 minute attack from a moderately knowledgable thief with some tools, that really doesn't seem like much security...does it?

Personally, if I had the money for a TL safe I would do it. But I would also make sure the rest of the house and security elements were up to snuff. And then I would still have a gun insurance policy incase all that failed.
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Old 09-25-2023, 9:43 PM
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Might try and camouflage a safe in a garage.
Something like behind another set of doors utility closet?
I bought used. Find someone moving out of the area or moving houses and can't or don't want to take a safe with them.
Word of mouth or craigslist.
Wouldn't hurt to talk with a locksmith/safe company in your area and ask about used.
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Old 09-25-2023, 11:47 PM
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Not sure of location. High noble in Roseville is awesome! If you’re in the Sac area, zip up there. Mechanical dial only…
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Old 09-25-2023, 11:49 PM
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Not sure of location. High noble in Roseville is awesome! If you?re in the Sac area, zip up there. Mechanical dial only?
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Old 09-26-2023, 3:39 AM
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?How much safe? or How many safes? In seriousness, With proper motivation most safes can be defeated in a relatively short time. Worse case is if a motivated criminal can?t get into your safe they may decide to wait for you or a family member to come home and attempt to open it at gunpoint, which of course could have a worse result than just losing some valuable ?tools?. This is why I prefer to do all I can to conceal the location or access to safe(s), and to have alarms and/or deterrents to them getting in and to spending much time there.
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Old 09-26-2023, 6:28 AM
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Just know that if you go the TL rated route, you often sacrifice the internal size of the safe. Most TL rated safes don’t hold much when compared to other options and the few that do are rather expensive. If you have a lot of stuff to put in a safe, a good RSC may be a better option in addition to a good home security system and cameras.
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Old 09-27-2023, 8:11 AM
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All home “safes” are rated as “residential security containers.” They’re weak. The only true “safe” that UL lists is “Amsec.”

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Old 09-27-2023, 8:24 AM
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Camo is your friend. Mine are hidden behind false paneling in a very inconspicuous manner. They are bolted down to plates I embedded in concrete with my foundation pour. They also weigh north of 1000lbs each.

There are two kinds to consider?2 hour fire safe and burglary safe. Higher end safes are not cheap?as noted. I am actually more concerned with fire damage so focused on that and bought accordingly.
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Old 09-27-2023, 8:48 AM
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I have been in the safe industry for 15 years. Sorry but half the information above is incorrect. There are very strong RSC/RSCII rated safes out there. This whole Liberty safe/electronic lock is its own topic. Keep in mind I do not sell Liberty safes as they are one of my competitors manufacturers. (i dont want to get into that on this thread). My recommendation is to get a USED TL rated if security is your main concern. You will get the most "bang for your buck". You will more than likely miss out on the nice gun safe decor, interior, etc. unless you get a TL rated gun safe (American Security RF series) which are usually very expensive. Most of the money you will be spending will be towards the security of safe. People dont realize when you buy a gun safe, a lot of the money goes towards the nice exterior, fabric lined interior, and accessories. When buying a commercial TL rated safe, a lot of the cost goes into actual security like thicker steel, stronger bolt work, etc. You may get lucky and be able to find a gun safes interior that fits inside to help you organize the interior. I am located in the Bay Area if you need some assistance. I can also help nationwide if necessary. Good luck.
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