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If a shell is loaded with just the primer and then "shot", how loud would that be?

If done in an uninsulated garage, will the neighbors flip out and would I get to esplain to "the man"?
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smack one with a hammer and find out
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You can explain all you want but, it's better to remain sillent and not resist the arrest. After all, you would be illegally discharging a firearm. Even if you live in an area were it is legal to do so, I don't believe you can legally discharge a firearm close to an occupied dwelling. If you are inside the garage, you are obviously inside an occupide dwelling.
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They're pretty loud... about that of a firecracker and nowhere NEAR as loud as an actual gunshot.
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wait till you set off .50 primer......its a whole new experience....
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Doesnt seem that loud:

primer only glue stick rounds:
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Don't know about how loud it would be if fired from a gun but just a primer going off by itself within 3 feet of your face will make your ears ring for 10 minutes.
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Not very loud at all. Only a bit louder than an air rifle. -- Come to think of it the same as a 22 bb or cb round.
I shoot 22pellets in my 218 bee with only a primer. The neighbor has never heard it.
please do not take serious the striking one with a hammer, flying debris could be painful.
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I did set off a primer in my uninsulated garage one day, years ago. It was very loud and I am surprised that no one came to investigate. I would recommend against intentionally setting off a number of primers, as the neighbors would be sure to complain.
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I remember it sounding like a 22 long rifle. Small rifle primer.
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Wasn't there a CG'er who posted a thread about killing spiders or something with primed-only cases?
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Little bit louder than a cap gun.
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jeeze, its not that loud, certainly not as loud as a .22, but definately louder than a .22 CB. I presume that we are talking about loading a primed but otherwise unloaded case into your weapon and pulling the trigger. Most of my experience has been with Large Pistol Primers in my 1911. I have done it in the garage, plenty, and the neighbors dont notice / care. It is certainly more quiet to make yourself a glue or wax bullet. If you are that worried, hold the muzzle into a rag. Hell, I have even done it in the house pointed into the trash can. Be sure to warn the wife and send the dog to another room... Just dont do it where the neighbors can see. If the cops show up, just tell them you were getting a book off a high shelf and dropped it on a hard floor surface.
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You can explain all you want but, it's better to remain sillent and not resist the arrest. After all, you would be illegally discharging a firearm. Even if you live in an area were it is legal to do so, I don't believe you can legally discharge a firearm close to an occupied dwelling. If you are inside the garage, you are obviously inside an occupide dwelling.
So does that mean it is illegal to use this http://www.eliteammunition.net/catal...14/7812222.htm in your own home for practice or to get rid of unwanted pest (meaning rats, mice, possums, etc) on your property?
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A primer set off in a chambered empty case is a bit on the loud side , and might attract attention...but using these ... http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=489581 ... is not very loud and fun as hell in a garage. It basically sounds like you set off a primer in a pillow.

I have a box of 50 modified 44 mag cases ( You drill the primer flash hole oversized so the primers dont back out and jam up the cylinder ) and empty the box of 50 either in the garage or backyard once in a while. I use a trap to catch the rubber projectiles , and have reused them many many times.

My Beeman air rifle has about the same report as these using standard LP primers.




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So does that mean it is illegal to use this http://www.eliteammunition.net/catal...14/7812222.htm in your own home for practice or to get rid of unwanted pest (meaning rats, mice, possums, etc) on your property?
Of course that would be illegal if it's illegal to discharge a firearm at that time and/or at that location.
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It's not that loud. In a garage, yes because your indoors. But it's not loud at all.
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No one ever comes to look for one gunshot...

When I was young and dumb I tested this theory a lot using a starter pistol in a lot of public places where I really shouldn't have (it was a very stupid thing to do looking back, and I highly recommend not doing it, had I realized the potential legal consequences I would never have done it).

one bang, no one investigates,

two + bangs, people go look what it was.

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I've had a primer go off right toward my face once. It wasn't pleasant, and it certainly was loud. I was using one of those cheap Lee reloading kits that require you to use a mallet to resize, prime, and seat the bullet. This was my first time reloading, and I didn't realize there was a piece of corncob media stuck in the primer pocket...and that darn primer just wouldn't seat correctly no matter how hard I whacked that thing...then BANG!


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You can explain all you want but, it's better to remain sillent and not resist the arrest. After all, you would be illegally discharging a firearm. Even if you live in an area were it is legal to do so, I don't believe you can legally discharge a firearm close to an occupied dwelling. If you are inside the garage, you are obviously inside an occupide dwelling.
The distance is 150 yards, IIRC, and I'm fairly certain that's only for hunting, and doesn't apply if you're the owner of the dwelling or have permission from the owner. Within city limits, it's definitely a no-no, since of course, you're going to be within 150yds from plenty of neighbors, many of which have probably not given you permission to discharge a firearm near their house.

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Okay, I couldn't wait. Now that was cool!!

Middl of Penasquitos and I just "had to" test five of them. My brittanys just stood there and looked at me. Had the look of "hey dummy, we gettin in the truck and gittin us some birds, or what?"
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So hitting a primer with a hammer isn't really "discharging a firearm", now is it?
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No one ever comes to look for one gunshot...

When I was young and dumb I tested this theory a lot using a starter pistol in a lot of public places where I really shouldn't have (it was a very stupid thing to do looking back, and I highly recommend not doing it, had I realized the potential legal consequences I would never have done it).

one bang, no one investigates,

two + bangs, people go look what it was.

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Don't do it.. get a snap cap they are cheaper than a lawyer.
One bang can be excused away as "those damn kids with a firecracker."

More than one becomes...okay is this something I should be worried about?
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So hitting a primer with a hammer isn't really "discharging a firearm", now is it?
OK I was the guy that said hit it with a hammer. Perhaps I shouldn't have said that out load. The guy that added eye protection was probably right. That said, I have "disposed " of primers with a hammer and anvil. I used a three pound sledge hammer pretty much dropped under its own weight. I always found the primer intact under the hammer head. Intact and flat that is. Now to the question... Seems like CA law states that a firearm is a device that expels a projectile with the force of an explosion. It is different from the federal definition that excludes blackpowder instruments that are loaded with individual components. No projectile no firearm, though there maybe fireworks issues.
I've said here before that I have stopped shooting my firecracker cannon for holidays. I was concerned that the little piece of papertowel wadding could be construed as a projectile. People on the forum accused me of being an old fart that didn't have any fun any more...
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If a shell is loaded with just the primer and then "shot", how loud would that be?

If done in an uninsulated garage, will the neighbors flip out and would I get to esplain to "the man"?
It would sound about as loud as one of those small firecrackers, the kind you buy all tied together in a package, no way as loud as a Cherry Bomb, Ash Can, etc. Think a cap gun roll smacked with a hammer when you were a kid, the ones that went off together, about that loud. Smells just like a cap gun cap going off as well.

No way would a neighbor notice, well, unless you kept doing it over and over.
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I've had a primer go off right toward my face once. It wasn't pleasant, and it certainly was loud. I was using one of those cheap Lee reloading kits that require you to use a mallet to resize, prime, and seat the bullet. This was my first time reloading, and I didn't realize there was a piece of corncob media stuck in the primer pocket...and that darn primer just wouldn't seat correctly no matter how hard I whacked that thing...then BANG!
Haha, I have had the same thing happen to me, using the same Lee hand loader. Not sure if it was media stuck in the pocket, or what. But one too many whacks and BANG! I'm glad I was wearing eye protection; I got a face full of debris, and my ears rang nicely.
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Not as loud as smacking an entire ring of these caps:
(I tell my boys, "Just one at a time!" but boys will be boys...)



Shoot the primer into a rag like someone suggested and it will be reduced to a 'pop.'
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In a nutshell: Loud like a .22, but not loud enough to freak out the neighbors.
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Okay, I couldn't wait. Now that was cool!!

Middl of Penasquitos and I just "had to" test five of them. My brittanys just stood there and looked at me. Had the look of "hey dummy, we gettin in the truck and gittin us some birds, or what?"
I'm in Scripps - I was wondering what that noise was...

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I've fired a shotgun shell with just a primer in it at the range, still noisy enough to not want to do it at home.
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I know a guy who put a .45 through his hand firing a 'primer' through a rag...

Took a phone call in between loading and firing.....forgot what he had loaded it with... and whoops

he got very lucky.... missed the bones and important stuff..

if you do pop a primer into a rag, don't put your hand in front of the barrel...
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2nd that. I've done it before. It sounds less than a firecracker.
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In a nutshell: Loud like a .22, but not loud enough to freak out the neighbors.
no it is not that loud...
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Little bit louder than a cap gun.


This.


I don't get the people that say it's LOUD. What primers are you setting off? I had a small rifle magnum go off on me once on my press and I won't say it's deafening. I was actually surprised that it's not THAT loud. Sounds like a cap gun X 3.
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That would be illegal.
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I have checked primer strikes due to spring changes many times.
Drill out the flash hole in representative caliber. If you do not the primer pressure will back the primer out and lock up a revolver. Load primers. Go into a walk in closet and fire away, toward the floor. the only grief you will get will be from your wife. Don't do this outside lest your neighbors freak.
This is better than having at misfire at the range. I replaced the hammer on a Black hawk with the lower Super black hawk hammer ,but you have to file down the top step by.020 Then check for misfires and file more if necessary and check again.

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