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Santa Clara County Sheriff
Strange not much discussion about SCC Sheriff, but I guess we always have some craptastic choices year after year. Anything other than the corrupt Laurie Smith though, please... 5 terms of this nonsense is a testament to how uninformed our local voters are.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/05/...decade-tenure/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/05/...-laurie-smith/ The local associations and media seem to stand with the former Undersheriff John Hirokawa, but he doesn't seem like someone who is going to anything for the 2A around here (although it can't get much worse, eh?). https://www.johnhirokawa.com/ Seems Joe La Jeunesse is one of the only ones taking a clear stand on the 2A: https://votejoeforsheriff.com/issues/ I'll probably go with Joe.
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Yeah, I was pondering the same thing, and also settled on Joe as the "less-bad" option compared to incumbent Sheriff Laurie Smith.
I also voted against the Persky recall, because I don't want any CA judge issuing a pro-2A ruling to fear the sort of voter backlash that Persky is currently facing from the Liberal/Progressive mob. KT |
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Runoff election between Hirokawa and Smith in November
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/06/...early-returns/ Quote:
But either way CCW permits will be status quo after the runoff election. No soup for you. |
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Heard that pd/sd recommended Smith
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Since Hirokawa is attacking Smith from the Left, smearing her with Trump, Smith needs to consolidate her support among the Right while not alienating the Middle. She can do that by quietly issuing more CCWs, without making a big fuss about it. Hirokawa will clamp down even further on CCWs than Smith. Too bad there isn't a local, pro 2nd A group on good terms with Smith to reach out to her....
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Just over 6 weeks until the election. Less than that for early/mail in ballots. Santa Clara county is the most populous NorCal county with 1.8M residents. Yet no CGNers are posting saying they're getting involved to help Hirokawa beat Smith to try to increase CCW issuance? Don't you want CCWs? You can read about Smith's latest political vulnerability due to regularly being over budget, especially with overtime pay, here: https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/09/...-spending/amp/
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240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives. Last edited by Paladin; 09-23-2018 at 6:57 AM.. |
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Remember: people may go to the range or local gun shops only once per month, if that. So you've got to get permission from those places and pro-Hirokawa materials up at them ASAP to have the maximum impact.
If you've never helped with a political campaign before and wonder what Hirokawa might need or ask of you, here's a list I found on Tom Lopez's campaign website (he won for sheriff of Yolo Co) where you click on options you're willing to do: Quote:
If you're a total newbie, Hirokawa's current people will help you get up to speed. If you're too afraid to help out, when the SHTF you'll be too afraid to actually draw down on a BG and pull the trigger....
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240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives. Last edited by Paladin; 09-23-2018 at 8:00 AM.. |
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Less than a month to go until the Nov 6th election.
No real activity by CGNers (yours truly excepted) in trying to replace Smith with Hirokawa.... http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/f...play.php?f=307 I guess Santa Clara Co CGNers don't want CCWs.
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We voted hirokawa. He's another flaming liberal like everyone else in the bay area but chances of displacing him after one term with someone more conservative leaning and more ccw friendly will be easier than it will be to replace the embedded, corrupt smith.
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If Hirokawa wins, he'll be "embedded": the incumbent who easily raises support to win re-election. While Smith is getting up in years and may run once more, he's relatively young and could easily run for 4 or 5 more terms. Be careful what you wish for....
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I just messaged (on Facebook) John Hirokawa regarding his policy on issuing concealed carry permits. He responded immediately with this comment:
"Unlike Laurie Smith, who uses her sole discretion to issue CCW permits to reward campaign contributors, I will implement an independent review committee who will review applications and make recommendations on who should and shouldn’t receive CCW permits based upon uniform criteria." This has to be an improvement over Smith. |
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Just pray a Trump packed SCOTUS finally delivers us a RBA in public and "strict scrutiny" standard of review in the next 2 to 3 years.
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240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives. Last edited by Paladin; 11-05-2018 at 7:27 AM.. |
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More CCW questions answered by John Hirokawa
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Two more questions, John. How will the CCW permit review committee members be selected? Who will determine the uniform criteria? (Are these state mandated?) John Hirokawa answered: We are going to work on the uniform criteria with all stakeholders interested in the issue. My vision or my plan would be to have a group of Sheriff's Office staff and community members to come up with the qualifications and process for the CCW. And another committee to select who should be issued a CCW based on need and just cause. This is in total contrast to the current practice of Laurie Smith selecting who does or does not receive a CCW, usually based upon contributing to her campaign. And to answer the last part of the question, there are no state mandates of how a Sheriff or Police Chief issues CCW's other than the individual applying may NOT be a felon. Thanks, John |
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So now you must pass through no less than two separate committees to get a CCW if he wins?
I am voting for him, but it seems that he is simply extricating himself from a difficult position, instead of taking a stance. |
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Two committees for CCW permits?
I think he is saying the first committee would determine the process and uniform criteria. Done. Once that was decided, the second committee would vote on whether each applicant met the requirements.
Yes, it sounds like he is not taking a stand, but is focusing on transparency and community involvement for his campaign. Knowing the local community's predominantly anti-gun stance, the criteria for getting a CCW permit would likely be difficult to meet. As a side note, the audio was very low on his Facebook video, so I really don't know much else about him. I have hearing problems despite the hi-tech hearing aides. |
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Right to Bear Arms
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Right to Bear Arms. The Heller case back in 2008 dealt with our Right to Keep Arms, but not directly with our RBA. Thus, many of us in CA are still unable to legally OC or CC and a decade later are still serfs begging our sheriffs for state permission slips to CCW.
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LOL. He's a current Sheriff deputy and he said that. But if it's the truth its not libel.
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So, now that you all have had time to lick your wounds, are you going to start organizing for influencing who wins as sheriff in 2022???
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The CA CCW GC map, posted in #25 above, now shows the latest revisions: Sonoma Co has gone from light red to light green (we're now losing 6 to 3 in the SFBA), Riverside Co has gone from light green to dark green (SD = GC), and Contra Costa Co is now yellow.
IMO, in the SFBA the best chance to improve things is to get more people to apply in CoCoCo using my advice: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1482924 The other chance is to get Sheriff Smith to liberalize CCW issuance. Just getting her to take Santa Clara Co to light red or yellow will be an improvement. But read over my advice linked above before talking with Smith (or her stand in) so that you do NOT get into an argument about the 2nd A -- that has NOTHING to do with CCWs per Peruta en banc decision. Organizing is easy using Facebook groups.
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240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives. Last edited by Paladin; 03-27-2019 at 9:39 AM.. |
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Yolo Co is now yellow (and, if things continue, may go light green this summer or fall).
For those who think "It can't be done", look closely at the 2019 CA CCW GC map I posted above and compare it to what we faced 10 years ago, in 2009.... We're at the end of the middle game and have begun the endgame.
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240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives. Last edited by Paladin; 04-16-2019 at 8:37 PM.. |
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Next you're going to say one state going Shall Issue didn't help other states pass it. Or one state going Constitutional Carry didn't help other states pass that. When the "Wild West" "blood in the streets" after "High Noon" shootouts over fender-benders and parking spaces argument is show false in one location, it has less credibility in all other locations. We've seen that time and time again, most recently in the debates/discussions over ConCarry in the 3 states that passed it this year (SD, OK, and KY) We've won 3 out of the 9 SFBA counties (Sonoma, Napa, and Solano). Even CoCoCo is now regularly issuing CCWs. But most CGNers would rather whine than work.... ETA: Here's a quote from today showing how AL legislators & advocates are using Con Carry in other states to push for it in their state. Quote:
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240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives. Last edited by Paladin; 04-17-2019 at 10:21 PM.. |
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Full disclosure...I've known Sheriff Smith for over 35 years. I had a sit down with her about three weeks ago on an unrelated non-firearms matter. We did get around to talking about issuance of CCW's. She is issuing them - albeit slowly. I know she had a recent change in administrative personnel handling the CCW applications. She is not ignoring them.
I've read a great many negative things on this forum about her. I have no opinion other than to state I've always found her to be up front to me. Others certainly differ - OK. If you live in Santa Clara County go ahead and apply. If you applied over a year ago - do it again. They are looking at updated applications. |
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Since Santa Clara is the most populous county in the SFBA, I hope you don't mind if I copy & cross post your post (with emphasis added like the above), in a couple of other Santa Clara related threads. Hopefully, some CGNers with significant GC will step up and actually apply and let us know how it goes. ETA: I should also point out that, despite your claim she's "not ignoring them," she still has on her CCW webpage (https://www.sccgov.org/sites/sheriff/Pages/ccw.aspx): Quote:
That's one of the reasons folks are skeptical whenever they hear rumors (vs official statements or actual changes in the CCW Policy), about positive changes in Santa Clara Co. or other long-term anti counties. No offense to either you or Smith, but we feel like Charlie Brown with Lucy holding the football for him to kick when we hear of long time restrictive issuance sheriffs saying they'll issue more CCWs.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmFfTJlIvhQ ETA2: If Sheriff Gore could change his mind and GC policy and switch to readily issuing CCWs (to the point of taking San Diego Co to "light green" and start issuing over a hundred CCWs each month), I'll try to keep my skepticism in check and extend a friendly hand.
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240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives. Last edited by Paladin; 04-19-2019 at 11:35 AM.. |
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To those who donate to her?
At least in San Mateo I was interviewed and passed background check (and denied with no reason given - background check would not be one of them, I am squeaky clean) in a very expeditious and polite manner. Deputy interviewing me was highly sympathetic. It is still a NO ISSUE county (despite the light red color Paladin insists on). I have found communist party apparatchiks and KGB agents to be very up front. Speaking from experience. Last edited by Offwidth; 04-17-2019 at 1:00 PM.. |
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This is a good place to mention this, as this is highly relevant to a neighboring county, we have already discussed that, and I am in no need of lecturing on what I am discussing.
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Please start or contribute to a thread for San Mateo - the actions of one Sheriff, near or far, are unlikely to influence another Sheriff, responsible to those who voted for him/her.
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Just an update as of today. If you applied more than a year ago...reapply. Files are purged after a year. Don't get into arguments about what you did before. Just do it again. They have 2 deputies working on the applications - and they have other duties also.
That's the best information I can offer. Stay positive. |
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