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Old 01-23-2019, 10:29 AM
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Default The NEW Kel-Tec CP33, 33/50 round, .22 LR "competition" pistol

I know this is something that most folks in California will not be able to buy (even though the list price is $475 in free America).

They're claiming they built it for competition and that it has a nice trigger.

What really interests me is the " .22 long rifle quad stack magazine".

We're all familiar with single stack or double stack but now they just jumped right over triple stack and went to the quad stack.

To get that to function well must have taken some brain power and maybe a computer or two.

( skip to the 20 second mark unless you like long intros)

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Old 01-23-2019, 10:51 AM
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When I heard about this, I put my plans on buying a Ruger MK IV this year on hold.

A guy I know texted me from SHOT and said the pistol balances perfectly. It is getting A LOT of attention. Same with their KS7 bullpup shotty, another one I will most likely buy this year. He is hearing that the CP33 is more reliable and a better shooter than the PMR30. Once my local shop gets them in stock, I iwl head over to take a gander
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:54 AM
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THE PMR30/CMR30 has been quad stack for years and for years it has been mostly reliable as long as you load it properly.

Surefire has a quad stack AR mag. Mine has been collecting dust since it came out. Junk.

Long before that there was the Suomi, Sites Spectre and other quad stack magazines.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:25 AM
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THE PMR30/CMR30 has been quad stack for years and for years it has been mostly reliable as long as you load it properly.

Surefire has a quad stack AR mag. Mine has been collecting dust since it came out. Junk.

Long before that there was the Suomi, Sites Spectre and other quad stack magazines.
^ audiophil, Thank you.
I tip my hat to your firearms knowledge.

Although I was actually referring to the fact that this is going to be the first .22 long rifle quad stack magazine , that I've ever seen.
I didn't make that clear in my OP though.

( if it works reliably this could be adapted to everyone's Ruger 10/22s , where quad stack 100 round magazines would be the size of 30 round magazines are today. Again, just for people living in a free states.)

I had heard that the Surefire quad stack AR mag was junk and other older firearms sometimes just give up on that system and moved on to double or single stack mags.

Lastly, and I could be wrong on this ...
but I think the PMR-30 / CMR-30 are actually considered double stack magazines. At least that's what I've read.




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Old 01-23-2019, 11:46 AM
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If it retains reliability over time as well as durability they are going to sell a crap load of those, very cool.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:59 AM
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^ audiophil, Thank you.
I tip my hat to your firearms knowledge.

Although I was actually referring to the fact that this is going to be the first .22 long rifle quad stack magazine , that I've ever seen.
I didn't make that clear in my OP though.

( if it works reliably this could be adapted to everyone's Ruger 10/22s , where quad stack 100 round magazines would be the size of 30 round magazines are today. Again, just for people living in a free states.)

I had heard that the Surefire quad stack AR mag was junk and other older firearms sometimes just give up on that system and moved on to double or single stack mags.

Lastly, and I could be wrong on this ...
but I think the PMR-30 / CMR-30 are actually considered double stack magazines. At least that's what I've read.




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The pmr mag is not a typical quad stack so I guess it is fair to market it as a double stack. There is a single divider down the back of the mag that creates sort of a double double stack. If you look at keltecsa website the cp33 mag look very similar to the double double pmr30 mag from the back.

I would probably get it since it is made to suppress. My PMR30 is not much fun since I can shoot subsonic 9mm suppressed for not much more than 22mag.

If black dog or some other company could make a 50 round quad stack glock 22lr mag I would be all over them. My 25 round AA mags empty fast in my selectfire G19.

There is an ak74 and ak74 quad stack mag but they are more expensive than 75 round drums and I prefer to use 40 round bulgarian or molot mags.
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it looks to me like they aren't full double stack per side. I wonder if that's to make it work with rims.
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This would be my zombie apocalypse gun!
Saw a few videos on it and it looks very reliable and overall a pleasure to shoot.
With the suppressor on it looks more complete.
Just need a stabilizer now.....
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They will be making 20+ mag extensions for the pmr30/cmr30 mags also
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I wonder if Kel-Tec can get it added to the Olympic exemption list.
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Agreed... This is pretty cool...

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My big problem with Kel-Tec is they announce a new gun, make a few dozen for sale and then sit back to see how much iinterest they get before they mass produce, Leading to shortages and delays. I get the reasoning, but don't like it.
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My big problem with Kel-Tec is they announce a new gun, make a few dozen for sale and then sit back to see how much iinterest they get before they mass produce, Leading to shortages and delays. I get the reasoning, but don't like it.
It has more to do with keltec never financing expansion. They are cash only so they wont spend big money on equipment that could sit unused during a downturn. That limits production during high demand periods.
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They will be making 20+ mag extensions for the pmr30/cmr30 mags also
I get bored pulling the trigger 30 times with my pmr. I usually just load 15 rounds or so.
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In which competition would you use a 50 round .22?
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Veryyyyyy Interesting...........
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Could you even own this pistol in California if it came in off roster? Besides the magazine capacity I thought you couldn’t have a threaded barrel on a pistol? I’m still trying to learn all the laws in this state before I move there
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Looks really fun to shoot. Too bad we couldn't have the fun things in Commie-fornia....
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If it really is more reliable than their PMR-30 (I had one and was sadly disappointed with both reliability and accuracy), I'd be up for one. Too bad it'll take years for them to get significant numbers of them out to market. Guess I'll keep looking for that Ruger 22/45 Mk IV lightweight instead.
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