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Non-California Permits/Licenses For out of State License/Permit discussion |
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Utah vs. Nevada for multi-state?
I have two trainers near me offering multi-state. One teaches Utah, the other teaches Nevada.
Looking on the USCCA maps, the coverage differences are obvious, for example Washington, or no Washington. They are both 5 years. I don't see any standout process differences. Is there any other reason one of them has an advantage? |
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UT or NV
The UT permit is less expensive at $63.95 compared to NV at $97.00. Back when I had my NV non-resident permit you had to apply in person at a Sheriff or PD location and the training had to be done at a location there. I did mine at The Gun Store in Vegas and then you had to go to the LVPD fingerprint facility to get fingerprinted and you picture taken for Clark county which Vegas is in (and there is a separate cost for this. You'll have to check with them to see if that's still required. UT you can do everything by mail.
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I'm not that excited about giving my fingerprints to a private entity, but if he's sending physical cards, I'm ok with it. |
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Do UT and be done with it all via mail. AZ is even faster if you don’t have that already. Unless you frequent NV a lot, no need to get the NV non-resident permit. |
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During the application submission process, the NV issuing agency will take the applicant's picture and fingerprints. ^NV laws requires fingerprints to be taken by an authorized employee of the NV issuing agency. [NRS 202.3657 (7)(b)] In addition, each NV issuing agency has a list of CCW trainers that they have approved and will not accept a CCW training certificate from a non-approved trainer. ^What may be approved in one county, may not be approved in other counties.
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Get both. It is not an either or proposition. I have had both for years and it is worth the time and effort to do so. Like Quiet stated above you will need to go to Nevada to get a Nevada CCW, however, it is well worth it IMO!
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Why? Nevada recognizes Utah permit. So, what is the benefit for me to have Nevada one specifically? ( leaving aside some other states that recognize Nevada permit and do not recognize Utah's ( if there are any ))
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Utah is going to constitutional carry next month. Don't know how that will affect any multi state issues...
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Moot point, will have no issue on what other states do in regards to recognition/reciprocity of the Utah CFP.
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Because Nevada will always recognize their own permit. Recognition and reciprocity is a dynamic issue and changes frequently. This way you never need to worry about which states Nevada will or will not recognize.
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My point is that nobody will need a Utah CFP anymore. Why would they continue to issue permits?
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Plus, if one has AZ only, you don’t get Washington state. And don’t forget, constitutional carry doesn’t exempt someone from Federal GSFZ unless with a valid state permit. |
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From that point of view, yes. I guess if one travels a lot it could be beneficial to have CL from the state you are in.
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Also worth noting that NV and Arizona have some kind of beef sometimes when it comes to reciprocity. It has changed a few times in the last 10 years. And as NV turns more and more blue, id expect things to change again soon.
Get UT. More states (GA too), mail in application, plus the AZ reciprocity issues. The only reason to get an NV ccw is if you live in NV. |
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You shouldnt talk if you dont know why most people get permits in there states. Most states, if you have a chl. You bypass the background check. When purchasing a weapon.. like utah non resident and resident can buy a weapon and have a nice day.. minus non resident needs to transfer to there state ffl. The instructor for utah stated in my class (he is on this forum) for non resident you can purchase a pistol but it has to be cali. complaint and shipped to an ffl. So just cuz a state does consutitonal carry. People still want permits to bypass the background. Also constitutional carry in most states. If your 1000ft from a school its illegal.. If you have your CHL, youre exempted from that 1000ft law
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Why many permits?
1- because we can 2- it helps the states with higher numbers But really it’s #3 Should I end up in a shooting Should I end up in court Should the DA end up looking at a case Well I want things on my side. Here are 1,2 or 3 states that issued me a CCW saying - yeah - we checked the background and training - they are a stand up person and can have a permit.
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I am still learning, so I may have much opportunity for gaining understanding and I welcome suggestions...it's my understanding that the CA ccw is recognized in many states, and that the non-resident licenses are actually not observed in some states; at present the Utah/Arizona non-resident permits only add 5/6 states, respectively.
Utah is now a constitutional carry state & Nevada will recognize either the Utah or the Arizona non-resident permits! The CA permit actually gives me the ability to carry in the places I travel to most frequently outside of CA. But, I'm going to apply for the AZ permit, for ease and length of permit (5yrs). And, as HermosaBeach said: "Should I end up in a shooting...end up in court...I want things on my side. Here are 1,2 or 3 states that issued me a CCW saying - yeah - we checked the background and training - they are a stand up person and can have a permit."
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If you travel to Nevada on a regular basis then it is worth the effort to get the Nevada permit. I was in Las Vegas last weekend and instead of worrying about which non-resident permit they accept/don't accept I simply brought it with me. Since I have a California CCW I crossed state line and was covered on either side. No fuss no muss. Spend the time and effort to get it!
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https://rccd.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/gs...2%20(002)B.pdf Also, there is sometimes feuds where NV does or doesn’t recognize AZ. In any case, if you’re traveling to NV often, get their permit instead, as BJ said above. UT and AZ cover most of what you want. Last edited by 9Cal_OC; 06-07-2021 at 8:03 AM.. |
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Not "fud", my guy. It was a mistake; I was reading FL (Florida's) statutes next to a window with NV and became confused. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll remove the incorrect information from my post.
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Good you’re researching permits’ reciprocity as one should when traveling. |
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Quick turnaround on Utah & Florida CCWs'
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I mailed-in my (Non-Resident) Utah CFP Application on 8/3, and received it 8/31. That's only four (4) weeks from end-to-end! I mailed-in my (Non-Resident) Florida CFL Application the same day I mailed my Utah CFP Application (8/3), and received it 9/3, so about 4.5 weeks on Florida. Maybe my applications arrived at the right time. Anyway, I hope this helps someone. Keith |
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