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Old 09-25-2020, 11:09 AM
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I have posted most of this in various threads but I am going to post it all on one thread so people can see what I did based on my experiences in 5 Tactical Shotgun Classes and shooting 3 gun shoots with these Mossberg 500's. Everything is directly applicable to M590's and 590 A1's, and most of it will work on Rem 870's and others as well.

The first two classes were brutal, and I came home beat up pretty bad. By the Third Class I had the gun pretty much sussed out and had a Decent Idea of what to do with it.

This stuff works and was arrived at by Trial and Error from both the classes and local 3 gun shoots. It could save you a lot of bruises.




The guns are a 20" Tactical M500 7+1 and a 18.5" HD M500. Both guns are set up exactly the same way except the HD gun doesn't ordinarily have a sling attached, but it does have the capability.

Both guns have Open Rifle Sights and I like the Green Williams Fiber Optic Front Sights because in the sunlight they are impossible to miss. At night with a light on the gun they are also impossible to miss. Unfortunately the Front Sight on the Barrel of the HD gun is solid, and I haven't figured out a way to install one on it yet. I have them on Rifles, Pistols and 2 shotguns.



Both guns have Brownells High Ridge Safeties installed and they were dehorned as using them in their stock form would result in Bloody Thumbs. One significant advantage of the Mossberg platform over others is the placement of the safety which makes the gun Ambidextrous.



Both guns have Magpul Furniture Black on one and Gray on the other, and both guns have the Magpul to Remington Recoil Pad Adapters and Pads. These pads are much larger and squishier than the pad that comes with the Magpul stocks. Also to insure a more squared up stance to the target all the Stock Spacers are absent. LOP is 12.5". I am 5'11" These stocks and Fore ends have the best Ergonomics for operating a shotgun I have seen, and are well worth the $100 or so bucks. They are easy to install and adjust to your body type.



Both guns have been completely internally deburred and run very smooth. Can't really show that, but trust me, they run slick.

Continued on next Post.

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Continued from above...

Both guns have Brown Coat Tactical 6 round Velcro Side Saddles attached to the left side of the receiver. They can be removed from the gun in seconds and replaced in seconds as well. With one on the gun and 2 in your pocket with a loaded gun you'll have 24-26 rounds available to deal with whatever. These are among the best quality products of this type I have seen and the price is right. They come in 2,4,6,and 8 hole versions.



Slings: I make my own slings out of 1.5" wide Nylon Belting just like 5.11 TDU Belts are made from. These are wider than normal and spread the load of the gun out over a larger area so as to decrease the fatigue of a thinner strap.



They are held to the gun using Grove-Tec Limited Rotation Quick Disconnect Swivel Sockets, threaded into the holes in the sides of the stock.
When carrying the gun Cross Body the sling is attached to the outside socket which then keeps the gun pulled into you while standing as opposed to falling away from you. If Conventional Carry is used then the sling is attached to the left side of the stock so once again the gun is held against you while carrying. In either case the gun lays flat against you and requires the least amount on hands on to maintain control of it.



Weapons Lights: both guns have a 3" piece of Pic Rail mounted under the Fore End for mounting a Streamlight TLR-1. You need a light on an HD gun because you will probably need it most at night so you don't shoot your wife or kids. I like these because they are as good or better than anything else out there and reasonably priced. They also are easily removed as you don't need them in the day time.



Now one of the big items: Both guns have had their barrels modified with the Vang Comp Process. www.vangcomp.com . This process consists of lengthening the Forcing Cone in front of the chamber to 3". Backboring the barrel to .745, and the reamer used has the last 2" tapering back down to .730. Also Porting consisting of 62 holes which reduces muzzle rise.

This improves the patterning of Buckshot dramatically. Both guns Pattern Regular 00 Buckshot into 7" at 25 yards which makes Buckshot viable out to 50 yards. This also spreads out the recoil impulse over a longer time and reduces "Perceived Recoil". These guns are a joy to shoot and I can easily shoot 200 rounds in a day with no after effects wearing Shorts and a Tee Shirt.



Now the last item,,, Ammo: There is no need for anything more powerful for HD or actual "Tactical" use, than Regular LOW RECOIL Buckshot or Slugs. I use Federal mostly or my own loaded ammo. For Target Use in the classes we use Walmart 12 ga #8 birdshot loads which are normally $21.74/100,,, hard to beat .22 cents a round. I prefer the Federal Ammo as the crimps are finished better than the Winchester ammo which aids in feeding, but either will suffice.

This is what I do to my Shotguns. You can feel free to use any of my suggestions or all of them, but know this. I am super finicky about all my guns and the way that they interact with my body. I spend lots of time just fondling them and finding all the little hotspots that in a intense training environment will come to the surface and wear holes in you and make you miserable or just annoy the hell out of you.

All these improvements were arrived at after finding inadequacies in previous setups, Strictly Trial and Error. After 5, 2 and 4 day Shotgun Classes at Front Sight and approximately 70+ hours of training. I can go thru a class and not have any bruises or holes worn thru my skin or any discomfort whatsoever. I never wear more than a Tee shirt and Shorts at these classes.

All this started as a result of touching off a couple of High Base Slugs from behind a bale of hay at a local 3 Gun Shoot which resulted in 3 trips to my Chiropractor to get a rib put back in. I swore I was not going to let my ignorance of Combat Shotgun Technique and Setup to persist. I got training and lots of it. My guns evolved to the point where they are a "Joy to Shoot" and don't hurt me. Your's can be like this too, but it is more than just modifying the gun, You need the training to go with IT!!! www.frontsight.com

Nobody was born knowing how to do anything, you need to be taught everything. That's why we have Parents and Schools!

What this Set Up does for me, is allow me to concentrate on the techniques of gun handling and accuracy that I wouldn't be able to concentrate on with lesser prepared guns. Your guns will evolve just as mine did until you won't be worrying about recoil or any kind of pain. You can’t concentrate on training if you are getting the snot beat out of you every time you pull the trigger. Also going to one class and thinking you are set for life is pretty short sighted. You will need several runs thru to get it as muscle memory takes time to soak in.

I'm going to #7 soon! And I come back seriously better each time. Also Shotgun Classes are by far the most fun, nothing like blasting away at a steel target 15 yards away and seeing it get punished and knowing what kind of power you are dishing out.

Life is too short to put up with ill fitting, or poorly prepared guns.

Hope this helps some of you figure out how to set up these guns.

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Is that light mountable at 3 o'clock without interfering with the action?

I'm not keen on bolt-on lights on a shotgun. Is there a custom forend with built-in light available for that model?

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I have posted most of this in various threads but I am going to post it all on one thread so people can see what I did based on my experiences in 5 Tactical Shotgun Classes and shooting 3 gun shoots with these Mossberg 500's. Everything is directly applicable to M590's and 590 A1's, and most of it will work on Rem 870's and others as well.
With the modified barrel - Vang Comp - You just bumped your self up to open in 3 gun. I found out that the hard way.

Well thought out platforms you assembled.

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Is that light mountable at 3 o'clock without interfering with the action?

I'm not keen on bolt-on lights on a shotgun. Is there a custom forend with built-in light available for that model?

Looking sharp, otherwise!
WW: yes you could mount the pic rail at 3, 6 or 9 o'clock, and yes Surefire makes a fore end with an integral light, and like all Surefire Products it is priced about 3 times higher than what it is worth, or in this case @$300.

I like the Streamlight and Pic Rail route because the light is easily removable when you don't need it and works well at night. Also it is run by a Treadle Switch on the back of the light which is momentary contact one way and full on the other way.

When using a light at night you need to shut the light off as you come down to the Ready Position. If you don't, the light traces a line on the ground right back to you, so incoming fire can easily locate you. This is where the Momentary Contact feature really works well.

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With the modified barrel - Vang Comp - You just bumped your self up to open in 3 gun. I found out that the hard way.

Well thought out platforms you assembled.
OF: I compete at a much lower level, and there isn't an open class at my local shoot. However if I went to Piru and shot out there, and had to be in the Open Class it wouldn't bother me as I don't have any illusions of winning anything at a shoot like that, so competing in the Open Class would only be for fun anyway.

Which is kind of the idea anyway.

Plus that I'd use my A5 for a shoot like that.

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I really appreciate this write-up. Going to be picking up a Mossberg 500/590 soon and this is the setup I'll be seeking to achieve.
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thanks for sharing.....very nice build and description.
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Thanks for the tips.
Am looking for my first shotgun.
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we're gonna needs photos of you in those shorts and a T-shirt and of course, both guns.
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Here's pics of my latest project.

It is a Vintage ($300) Montgomery Wards Mossberg 500. I call it the "Monkeyberg." It started life as a Field Grade Shotgun with Wooden Furniture.



It came with a 28" Vent Rib Barrel that I cut to 18.5" and sent to Vang Comp for threading for Rem Choke Tubes.





I used a Limbsaver Recoil Pad on this one as Midway didn't have any Remington ones in stock but I think it will work just fine.



I used William's Clamp On Fire Sights on the Vent Rib



I also got a Carlson's Rifled Choke Tube for it just to see how it shoots slugs thru that. They are supposed to work really well and mimic the Paradox Guns of 125 years ago. We'll see how that works.

I'm a Big Fan of Carlson's Choke tubes as they are the best bang for the buck out there.

Continued,,,,

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There is one other doodad I used and that is a Combo Front Sling Mount/ Pic Rail Section from GG&G and it made attaching a Sling to the gun in the proper place easy.



So that's what I did to my new "Car Gun." the Monkeyberg!

More ideas for budding shotgunners.

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Holy Vent Rib! Batman... that's there's a pretty neat truck gun!
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Random question: with the vang comp porting does the buckshot lose velocity? That’s an issue with some handgun porting.
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Not enough to make any difference.

Regular Low Recoil 00 has a MV of 1300 fps, and since the Vang Comp Barrel yields a 7" pattern at 25 yards, a few FPS isn't going to make any difference. You are talking an Oz. to an Oz. and a Quarter of shot, not handgun boolit that weighs way less.

With higher velocity it only gets worse for the target.

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A new addition to this project is a Carlson's Rifled Choke Tube.
It should improve Slug Accuracy which is one of the primary loads for this gun.
Hence the Rifle Sights.

IMHO Rifle Sights are a must have on a Tactical Shotgun, you are essentially fielding a .73 caliber Rifle or Musket depending on how you look at it. Once you shoot the gun enough you will see that Sights are just as fast on target as a bead and much more accurate with slugs. And they are adjustable.

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Excellent write up with loads of good info!

It's probably a Ford v. Chevy v. Dodge discussion, but I disagree with the below.

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Now the last item,,, Ammo: There is no need for anything more powerful for HD or actual "Tactical" use, than Regular LOW RECOIL Buckshot...
I have used low recoil buckshot on dozens of live animals and have had it fail more than half the time. Penetration is horrible with the stuff I've used, on both heart/lung and head shots, as close as a few yards. I've had it fail to penetrate skulls, shoulders and ribs, and have done necropsies where it half or more of the pellets did not penetrate deep enough in to the animal to be a quickly fatal shot.

I agree that there's no need for 3" mag, or even 2 3/4" magnum buckshot, but the low recoil stuff that I have experience with (Federal) is absolute garbage for an actual self defense situation.

Survey sample of one, so plenty of folks may disagree, but I'll not ever choose to load low recoil buckshot in a shotgun intended for anything other than steel or paper targets anymore.
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So what exactly were you shooting?? And how far away were you?

Most of the Low Recoil Federal Ammo is running 1200-1300 fps, and should be fine for what it is intended for. IE: Shooting People at relatively close range,,, <25 yards.

However without a tight pattern it disperses quickly . A regular Cylinder Bore barrel will yield a 15" pattern at 15 yards and add 1" for every yard beyond that. 9 pellets get lost very fast beyond that.

By comparison my Vang Comped Barrels (First two guns) yield 7" patterns at 25 yards so the density of the pattern with only 9 pellets is much greater and makes 00 Buck viable out to 40-50 yards. However beyond 30 yards Slugs are a more effective choice.

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What I've done with my shotguns goes way beyond Gun Work and Mods and extends deeply into the ammunition. Most of my Ammo loading has been concentrated in Reloading Birdshot for Clays Shooting (different guns) and loading various types of slugs for use in both Smooth Bore Barrels and Rifled Barrels.

I have several slugs that I shoot alot of.

1. The 1 oz. Lee Drive Key Slug which I cast myself.
2. The Lyman 525 Sabot Slug which looks like a Giant Air Gun Pellet. cast
3. Round Balls which are loaded into Regular Trap Loads, by replacing the shot. All cast myself.



4. STI Sabot Slugs which have proven to produce exceptional accuracy.



5. A Non Toxic version of the STI Sabot Slug certified in CA for Hunting. (Left)



6. Various Russian designed slugs which can be heavy and useful for big stuff.


7.Numerous Factory Loaded Slugs from Federal, Brenneke and Lightfield.
8. Factory made slugs from BPI



This has been going on for the last 5 years, and I have had some success, and I have also learned a bunch about loading slugs and how to make them shoot. Pretty much all of them have certain uses, like the Lee Slugs and Pumpkin Balls which are used primarily for practice and 3 Gun Shoots in Smooth Bore Barrels. Others for hunting, and some for SD/HD

More to come:

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