Non Traditional AK's (Not for Purist & wood people).

[Pistolgrip Pump]

Originally Posted by FiveSeven

Very nice, not overdone and not many corner$ cut. Probably still needs a good stock but if original works for you then good.
Have you test it out the way it is (optic etc) ?

Yes very much so. Im not sure of the different stock options for a yugo ak but the stock one isnt bad. Maybe just something a little better quality. And no I plan to shoot it this weekend. The allen screw on the optic came stripped so I could barely get it tightened all the way. Hopefully it holds or ill have to send it back.

[FiveSeven]

Latest converted 5.45 with one of my much prefers stocks.










and side mount vs Ultimak.

[808Rude]

Love my Draco

[bushwookie]

i might start to show love to AK's because of this thread.

[victorr]

[victorr]

16". That's a K-VAR faux booster disguising over 4" of barrel.

Updated pic with the latest additions. Pardon the shadows ; )

[Click Boom]

This thread should just be called "five-seven (and technique) are awesome."



Five sev - it looks like you're trending towards side mounts and away from ultimaks as this 2+yr thread moves forward. Is that correct, and is there a reason for it, or are your builds just turning out that way?

Any cutting edge suggestions for my saiga build? I've Just done the back end conversion with vltor/ctr/hogue pg/trigger job so far, http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=911364

I'd rather try a few diff options than break the bank on eotechs and the like so money is a factor. Cant decide between forward mounted red dot, side mounted red dot, side mounted scope. Versatility is good. Ultimaks are so damned popular, but theyre like 4+ years old so maybe those (like you) with the experience are trending back towards side rails for mounting the things you need, when you need them? I also like the idea of putting rails on the stock handguard for AFG and possibly 9'oclock light (because nothing wrong with a long, smooth handguard), but am also thinking about getting one of those strike industries keymod rails for 70ish bucks for just the back part, no handguard retainer required (i think).

Wish I had more parts to play with! I researched the hell out of the things I've bought so far and couldn't be happier with them (other than stupid fkin bullet button, lmao)

[FiveSeven]

Originally Posted by Click Boom

This thread should just be called "five-seven (and technique) are awesome."

Thanks but, I do like modern AK and many updates/mods have their own advantages. + someone has to keep up with it.

Five sev - it looks like you're trending towards side mounts and away from ultimaks as this 2+yr thread moves forward. Is that correct, and is there a reason for it, or are your builds just turning out that way?

I have 3 AK's with Ultimak and in most cases I prefer them over side mount as they make the lightest possible platform for red dot/reflex sight, especially with QD Aimpoint micro.

Any cutting edge suggestions for my saiga build? I've Just done the back end conversion with vltor/ctr/hogue pg/trigger job so far, http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=911364

Looks good and my suggestion is to try a few different stocks/grips etc and see what feels/points the best. Most of them will have superior handling to traditional wood/polymer but some will stand out better. At the end it's what suits you best (as we are all different) and don't cheap out to much if it's your only tactical rifle/platform.

I'd rather try a few diff options than break the bank on eotechs and the like so money is a factor. Cant decide between forward mounted red dot, side mounted red dot, side mounted scope. Versatility is good.

I have a feeling that eventually you'll try out more than a few before you decide on the one.

Ultimaks are so damned popular, but theyre like 4+ years old so maybe those (like you) with the experience are trending back towards side rails for mounting the things you need, when you need them?

Ultimak is over 12 +/- years old I believe and it's been proven to be very reliable and one if not the best forward mounted optic mount setup. Its being that good that made it last so long as I've seen many others come & go.
Side mounts are good and have their own place but Ultimak is hard to beat.

I also like the idea of putting rails on the stock handguard for AFG and possibly 9'oclock light (because nothing wrong with a long, smooth handguard), but am also thinking about getting one of those strike industries keymod rails for 70ish bucks for just the back part, no handguard retainer required (i think).

Wish I had more parts to play with! I researched the hell out of the things I've bought so far and couldn't be happier with them (other than stupid fkin bullet button, lmao)

Strike industries is a good hand guard but it's not as durable imo as Ultimak lower but I haven't had to much experience with it so I can't state that for certain, again just my opinion.
On the top of this page, the 5.45 Saiga has Chaos AK handguard, it does not require any modification/installation to retaining bracket as it was made for stock Saiga + it works very well with Ultimak.

Word of advise on Midwest Industries side mount and Saigas.
I've tested few 30mm single side mount rings, and a few side mounted rails. All of them sit a little bit to the right so co-witnessing is not ideal with those low profile mounts. I think they haven't tested a single unit on Saiga before production, all measurements and testing was done on WASR's or something else.
If you prefer side mount, hands down RS is the best, low profile, lightweight, very durable, easy adjustment/clamp and just an awesome mount, Yes it will cost you nearly double but it's so worth it. There's also many options etc.

[Click Boom]

I am loving this thread, thank you!!! Can't beat it.

[Straight_Shooter]

your opening statement was right on..A good proven platform on any rate..up graded to modernize its versatility is a good thing...,,here is my Russian sks ( i got slapped for..LOL.

[mikenewgun87]

Originally Posted by Straight_Shooter

your opening statement was right on..A good proven platform on any rate..up graded to modernize its versatility is a good thing...,,here is my Russian sks ( i got slapped for..LOL.

Get that sks outta here!!! The title reads "non traditional AKs"...

What conversion kit do you have on it?

[gwgn02]

Originally Posted by rrr70

Nice Venezuelan PK

[Cadre]

[phase1]

what type of magazine release is this ^

[funnybookz]

Originally Posted by phase1

what type of magazine release is this ^

I second that. It looks pretty slick.

[BigPun762]

Originally Posted by phase1

what type of magazine release is this ^

Originally Posted by funnybookz

I second that. It looks pretty slick.

It's Arsenals retarded mag lock.

[AK all day]

Well.. I am one of the "purist wood people", but this is my exception...

[Cadre]

Originally Posted by AK all day

Well.. I am one of the "purist wood people", but this is my exception...

this just gave me wood

[MrExel17]

[SocomM4]

My first...

[jonc]

Originally Posted by victorr

Nice

[Chewbaca]

heres mine, it started as a saiga 223 sporter that i converted then added the canis stock adapter magpul stock grip and hand stop also the texas weapon systems top cover and fore end, i chopped the barrel to 14.5 and pinned a surefire muzzle break to it. for sights im running troy micros and a aimpoint pro with riser removed to provide a perfect cheek weld and co withness with the irons. im also going to add the canis mag adapter pictured to be able to run pmags soon . . . cant wait !

[victorr]

Originally Posted by jonc

Nice

Salamat!



...and Chewbaca has some NICE AKMs!

[MrPlink]

Lol Red Horse, F yeah!
Make mine a Tanduay.

[Chewbaca]

[johnyreb]

5.45 sagia I converted.

SLG20 all krebed up

And a Krink in 7.62

[Click Boom]

Current evolution of my most tac Saiga 7.62

Vltor Milspec M4 style collapsible tube
Magpul CTR stock
Hogue over-molded pistol grip
Tapco G2 Single Hook (modified for BHO and mirror-polished @ contact points, improved sear angle (
CSS angled trigger guard
Custom modified safety
Texas Weapons Systems Dog Leg GenII aimpoint/microdot specific top with built-in rear sight leaf.
Primary Arms MD-06L
Midwest Industries Extended AK Handguard
Nebo rail-mounted 190 lumen pistol light (very lightweight)
8m3 Sapsan 124g hollow points

[Chewbaca]

Originally Posted by johnyreb

5.45 sagia I converted.

SLG20 all krebed up

And a Krink in 7.62

Tell us about the krink

[johnyreb]

Originally Posted by Chewbaca

Tell us about the krink

I built it on a Nodak 7.62 kyber pass receiver. Bought 7.62 Bulgarian Krink parts from Kvar, and used a virgin Bulgarian 7.62 16" barrel.


Built it in 2012 those parts are not around any more really. I had a guy in oregon populate and profile the barrel for me. And I found a fake can to cover the barrel on gun broker. The ribbed Krink hand guards I picked up on EBay for $30...they are also kvar.

It tosses spent cases 25-30 feet

[Chewbaca]

sweet im really diggin it ! reminds me of my arsenal. i built mine aswell since the slr series is banned by name here in california. i really want a 7.62 version too tho

[johnyreb]

Yea, at the time I had sold all my 5.45 stuff and I have **** tons of 7.62 stuff so I decided to build it in 7.62. It's a fun gun and a head turner at the range. Still don't have the FSB muzzle device pin and spring yet. They never seem to be instock any were.


On a side note, I put one of the redstar adjustable triggers in my 5.45 sagia conversion. It's super sweet, but won't function correctly with sagia bolt hold open. The bolt hold open compresses the hammer spring on the right side, and the trigger does not have a true tail on the right side. It has flat lug were you can adjust the safety engagement via a set screw. The hammer spring wants to jump that lug, and gets caught between the side of the trigger and the bolt hold open device, and binds the trigger just enough to cause it to not reset.

Remove the bolt hold back and it works perfectly with a nice factory set 4.5lb pull. So I went with a krebs safety to hold my bolt open.

[Jrubbadubbub]

Rd stock adapter with an ace arul stock. custom paracord stock wrap. Qd scope mount with a vortex strikefire red dot. Tapco forened. Harris bipod. Hogue grip.

[MoltoMario]

My Twins
Arsenal SGL-31 and Arsenal SAM7SF in Factory Plum.

IMG_20140709_180955 by mariozumbo, on Flickr

[FiveSeven]

Another AK sight fabricated.
More here:

[victorr]

[hellayella]

Originally Posted by victorr

maganda!!!

[victorr]

Salamat

[FiveSeven]

More on optic here:

[H2O MAN]

My plan was to fine tune the zero on my Aimpoint Micro T-1.

The little guy on top was hit with 220 gr. subsonic 7.62x39... the big head was hit with 124 gr. supersonic Golden Tiger.
All of it went through an M14 suppressor. The old Aimpoint Micro T-1 has a 4 MOA dot.

[FiveSeven]

< Nice shooting, where did you get heavy ammo, reload?


More on the optic here: