Non Traditional AK's (Not for Purist & wood people).

[FiveSeven]

Yes, wood people, always come out of the woodwork when someone mentions in modifying an AK.
I like AK platform but dislike it's crude ergonomics and lack of versatility. I prefer a rifle that's useful for various tasks- be adaptable/modular at least somewhat and overall comfortable to shoot and handle. Traditional AK's and especially with wooden furniture just don't do it for me and AR's are not my thing either.
With that stated, there's many ways one can improve on AK just like with any other rifle that you prefer. AK's just so happen to be my preference.
Yes, all these mods make rifle easier to shoot/handle. In my particular experience they make the rifle more accurate as well and I believe its combinations of things.


Converted Saiga (newer series with 24mm FSB).
Cheek weld with this scope + Magpul CTR stock is outstanding, well balanced and very easy to place on target, a world of a difference when compared to traditional AK.
Those Hand guards dissipate heat much better than any wood or polymer.











IOR 4x24 (tac scope)

Russian 24mm compensator has internal baffle, reduces recoil a bit but sound very unusual/weird, not like any AK muzzle break I've shot with. Only drawback is that its not chromed lined as some of the other Russian muzzle devices. Needs to be removed for proper cleaning but that's not a big deal anyway. I use fine steel wool and it works well.

Surefire G2 (200lm LED).

[Stamatos]

Awesome build. Unique and best of all, it is what YOU want!
I'd do something similar if I had an AK.

[norcal77]

Interesting piece, I'd like it better in all flat black.

[mrlonewolf]

[peppermintman]

Originally Posted by mrlonewolf

How the heck did you add that to the picture. Who said it he did or you did? I'll keep mine like the one he's holding

[FiveSeven]

Originally Posted by peppermintman

How the heck did you add that to the picture. Who said it he did or you did? I'll keep mine like the one he's holding

Nonsense, Kalashnikov would never have stated that as he's much more happier with modern stuff on his creation.
Look at that sad photo and this one where he's clearly much happier.

[X-actly]

Here is my WASR-10 (Romanian AK-47). 100% refinished. I personally conducted all of the work myself. I fully disassembled then media blasted the entire rifle using 70 grit aluminum oxide. Prepped by degreasing with acetone, out gassed and then coated with CeraKote's "H" series "Patriot Brown" and "Flat Dark Earth" (FDE) inside and out. Kiln cured at @250*F for 2 hours. Reassembled with a full trigger job and function tested...GTG!

Details:
-Roman Arms WASR-10
-Cerakote Finishes (FDE & Patriot Brown)
-Custom Fabricated Bolt Extension
-Voltor AR15 Stock Adaptor
-Magpul CTR w/ .5" Riser
-Magpul AFG II
-Magpul XTS Rail Covers
-ERGO Ladder Rail Covers
-Burris Fast Fire II Reflex Sight
-Midwest Industries AK47 Rail System
-Falcon Industries SAW Pistol Grip
-Custom Fabricated Safety Lever Extension
-Solar Tactical AK Magazine Lock
-10/30 Custom Magazines
-Surefire Scout Light (Wraped in USMC MARPAT Desert Camo Form)
-Weaver 45* Offset Light Rail

[FiveSeven]

^
Very nice......Good FH (not MB) is a must.

[64physhy]

Originally Posted by X-actly

Here is my WASR-10 (Romanian AK-47). 100% refinished. I personally conducted all of the work myself. I fully disassembled then media blasted the entire rifle using 70 grit aluminum oxide. Prepped by degreasing with acetone, out gassed and then coated with CeraKote's "H" series "Patriot Brown" and "Flat Dark Earth" (FDE) inside and out. Kiln cured at @250*F for 2 hours. Reassembled with a full trigger job and function tested...GTG!

Details:
-Roman Arms WASR-10
-Cerakote Finishes (FDE & Patriot Brown)
-Custom Fabricated Bolt Extension
-Voltor AR15 Stock Adaptor
-Magpul CTR w/ .5" Riser
-Magpul AFG II
-Magpul XTS Rail Covers
-ERGO Ladder Rail Covers
-Burris Fast Fire II Reflex Sight
-Midwest Industries AK47 Rail System
-Falcon Industries SAW Pistol Grip
-Custom Fabricated Safety Lever Extension
-Solar Tactical AK Magazine Lock
-10/30 Custom Magazines
-Surefire Scout Light (Wraped in USMC MARPAT Desert Camo Form)
-Weaver 45* Offset Light Rail

Very nicely done! It looks like the compensator is on sideways though.

[Ryan in SD]

Where did you get that brake from?

[baz152]

I like it. What kind of accuracy are you getting out of it with that scope? What stock tube is that? Finally, how do you like your light mount?

[H2O MAN]

Originally Posted by FiveSeven

Yes, wood people, always come out of the woodwork when someone mentions in modifying an AK.
I like AK platform but dislike it's crude egronomics and lack of versatility.
I prefer a rifle that's useful for various tasks- be adaptable/modular at least somewhat and overall comfortable to shoot and handle.
Traditional AK's and especially with wooden furniture just don't do it for me and AR's are not my thing either.

+1

[FiveSeven]

^
Nice. $ well spent.

I like it. What kind of accuracy are you getting out of it with that scope? What stock tube is that? Finally, how do you like your light mount?

Did not measure groups on paper but was able to shoot gallon milk jugs constantly at 180yd away (LRF) with out any problem. Have not shot any further, next time out will.
Tube is Aluminum from CSS, Flashlight & mount is good, It's slimmer in profile then some other ones out there. I had to fabricate the mount as in stock form it won't work on Midwest Ind rail in the up position.

Interesting piece, I'd like it better in all flat black.

Own others, few similar in black.

Awesome build. Unique and best of all, it is what YOU want!
I'd do something similar if I had an AK.

Thanks, definitely, if you ever get one it's so worth it.

Where did you get that brake from?

http://www.rusmilitary.com/html/guns_accessories.htm

@mrlonewolf
Yes, he designed the rifle in the 40's and it was fine back then. We don't live in those times so why would people be locked with that ideology mindset in modern times?
To each it's own I guess, I'm not here to explain why technology/innovation is a good thing.
Anyway, M. Kalashnikov never really was in charge of what he wanted in a rifle either. What Soviet/Russian higher command wanted then it was done. Even currently Russians try to upgrade their AK to somehow modern standard, even if they look a bit off.....at least they try to keep up.



Some Russian army units and police also upgrade their AK's over traditional. Yes, some even with American stuff.

[Caeser2001]

Originally Posted by H2O MAN

+1

Exactly as I plan to build mine. How much does she weigh?

[H2O MAN]

Originally Posted by Caeser2001

Exactly as I plan to build mine.
How much does she weigh?

I have made a few and final changes to her... the AFG has been replaced
with with an RFG and the T-1 has been relocated backward a few inches.

Weight with magazine and sling removed: 7 pounds 6.2 ounces

[chead]

Tradition is boring.



That Strikefire is sitting on an ultra-low mount now.

[LOLfornia]

FiveSeven, your build looks amazing! Is it easy to attach the CTR stock? I have no experience switching them out.

Thanks

[FiveSeven]

Originally Posted by LOLfornia

FiveSeven, your build looks amazing! Is it easy to attach the CTR stock? I have no experience switching them out.

Thanks

Thanks, Yes it's very easy. Drop in installation. Take old stock out and attach this one it its place.
http://store.carolinashooterssupply....apsible/Detail
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With this type of tube, you won't be able to mount some if not all side clamping scopes. The permanent sling mount (ear) prevents scope mount in lining up with the mount rails.
You would have to cut off sling mount.

Or you can get polymer tube for half the price. I have it on my other Saiga and it's just as good or even better.
http://store.carolinashooterssupply....4-Stock/Detail

[1911pistola]

Nice rifles guys. lets keep this thread going. Here is mine.

[FiveSeven]

^
Nice.

Another Saiga, been trough several mods, this is the final one for sure.








PK-01 V

Saiga 7.62x39 (3)
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[DavidRSA]

Originally Posted by 1911pistola

Nice rifles guys. lets keep this thread going. Here is mine.

THIS! Is my the best of seen so far. Wow! Are the iron sights still usable over the rail system?

I dont have an AK yet and plan on building one from a flat if I can get into one of the build parties.

What type is this? Can these mods (rail system, stock) be added to any AK, or do I have to stick to a specific brand of parts or country? As you can see I know nada about AK's.

[peppermintman]

Originally Posted by chead

Tradition is boring.



That Strikefire is sitting on an ultra-low mount now.

There's that grip wrap thing again. Why do some guys prefer putting that on their AK's?????

[Carsgunsandchics]

Originally Posted by peppermintman

There's that grip wrap thing again. Why do some guys prefer putting that on their AK's?????

Detachable mag, and 10+ capacity.

[Fot]

looks nice man..

[Cuerno_de_Chivo]

I'm a wood person and I personally wouldn't put ANY of that stuff on mine but who cares. Each to his own. It's your rifle you can do whatever you want with it. But I'm curious of how it makes it more accurate.

[FiveSeven]

Originally Posted by Cuerno_de_Chivo

But I'm curious of how it makes it more accurate.

Good Red dot/Scope make it more accurate OR makes it easier to be more accurate. Beats AK's front post anytime.
Red dot and especially scope requires constant/repetitive and proper cheek weld to maintain consistency in accuracy. Traditional stocks do not have any cheek support when it comes to optics unless red dot is low enough, like Ulimak gas tube mount.
Depends on a flash hider/muzzle brake you use. Some improve accuracy slightly and some degrade it horribly.

If a gun is more comfortable to shoot/handle then that in-itself will make it easier to shoot more accurately.

Updated: (more pics on page 9/10)
Saiga 5.45's


Saiga 308

[1911pistola]

Originally Posted by Cuerno_de_Chivo

I'm a wood person and I personally wouldn't put ANY of that stuff on mine but who cares. Each to his own. It's your rifle you can do whatever you want with it. But I'm curious of how it makes it more accurate.

I don't Know if rails and red dots, collapsible stocks etc, make it more accurate or not and I really don't care. I just wanted a non traditional AK.
I have several traditional AK'S .I just wanted something different.

Cada Quen Que no?

[Ryan in SD]

Originally Posted by Cuerno_de_Chivo

I'm a wood person and I personally wouldn't put ANY of that stuff on mine but who cares. Each to his own. It's your rifle you can do whatever you want with it. But I'm curious of how it makes it more accurate.

MASSIVE FACE PALM.

Such a fail post it hurts.

[Inquirer]

It's not real yet, but here's my blueprint:

[CK_32]

Originally Posted by FiveSeven

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Wow I never thought AK's could be tactical and look good but thats BAD AS*

[Steve1968LS2]

Nice.. I plan on keeping my 47 au-natural with wood and iron sights.. but this gives some great ideas from my 74..

[jimmykan]

Too many gadgets hanging off that AK.

What's the Soviet equivalent to mall ninja?

Commissary Ninja?

Yeah, too "commissary ninja."

[FiveSeven]

One of my other rifles, just finished it (didn't get a chance to shoot it yet).
Flash hider is little bit darker in real life then in these slightly processed photos. It's darker brownish in color (anti corrosion finish).

Saiga hand-guard modified/drilled (3 points) to accept short rail, Magpul AFG is very secure, rock solid. ACE SOCOM stock provides very good eye relief for the scope.
Very sturdy stock, have it on my other AK and liked it so much I got one for this rifle.









Scope was used on another rifle and it works well.
Since it was made for PSL it sits much lower than regular AK PSO type scope. Which is perfect, irons are still usable with the scope mounted.


Saiga 7.62x39 (4)
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[Len]

My garage converted Saiga .308
-AK74 muzzle brake, this is an original AK74 brake that was bored to 7.62 dimensions
-Texas Weapon Systems top rail and aperture sight.
-Red Star Arms trigger group.
-VLTOR carbine stock adapter.
-Magpul CTR stock.
-US Palm grip.
-Krebs safety.
-Solar Tactical CA. magazine release.
-Custom made billet aluminum picatinny rail for Grip-pod with steel legs.
-Black Duracoat finish

[West9319]

Originally Posted by Len

My garage converted Saiga .308
-AK74 muzzle brake, this is an original AK74 brake that was bored to 7.62 dimensions
-Texas Weapon Systems top rail and aperture sight.
-Red Star Arms trigger group.
-VLTOR carbine stock adapter.
-Magpul CTR stock.
-US Palm grip.
-Krebs safety.
-Solar Tactical CA. magazine release.
-Custom made billet aluminum picatinny rail for Grip-pod with steel legs.
-Black Duracoat finish

Dude that is one bad ***** saiga.

[Fern]

Very nice pics all. I have one in the works also.

[smattenson]

Nice gun Len

[MrPlink]

Originally Posted by smattenson

Nice gun Len

+1

I dig it.

I actually considered doing something similar to your set up with the rail/grip pod
but then I decided to get back to basics with mine

[chead]

That .308 is all kinds of yes. I'm glad we finally have a non-historic AK thread

[technique]

My AK-105


AK-105/Plain Jane 74/ Non traditional 74



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